[Tango-L] A first choreographed tango

2008-01-19 Thread Igor Polk
Keith wrote: "Copes is known for being the first person to choreograph tango for professional dancers on stage." May be. But what about this citations: "The tango was first danced in a Parisian theatrical review in 1908.." "In that year [1913] the Hungarian composer Franz Lehar featured the tang

Re: [Tango-L] A first choreographed tango

2008-01-19 Thread Chris, UK
> "Copes is known for being the first person to choreograph tango for > professional dancers on stage." Igor observed: > But what about this citations: Indeed. It would have been safer to write: "By those with no knowledge of prior instances, Copes is known for being the first person to choreo

[Tango-L] Loud frame vs. Quiet frame

2008-01-19 Thread SCPER
As a leader who will often shift to a "LOUD" frame -i.e. a strong ballroom style frame- and then back to a "quiet" one many times during a single song, I have found that to be the essence of effectiveness in my style of tango. After hundreds of private ballroom lessons, I cannot help but hav

[Tango-L] apodictic: M-W's Word of the Day

2008-01-19 Thread Ed Loomis
The apodictic tone of many posters on the Tango-L reflects their complete lack of modesty or even a modicum of humility which might leave room for a civilized discourse about anything. Ed On 19 Jan 2008 10:07:25 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Word of the Day for January 19 is: apo

Re: [Tango-L] A true tango

2008-01-19 Thread Keith
What a strange world this is - and what a strange list. We already have Chris UK [who???] telling us that Gustavo Naviera is useless. Now we have Krasimir Stoyanov - does anyone even know who he is or how he can dance - telling us that a legendary figure such as Juan Carlos Copes doesn't danc

Re: [Tango-L] A true tango

2008-01-19 Thread Krasimir Stoyanov
I do not comment what are the "historic" achievements of someone. I simply comment if his dancing has "the feature", that makes it true tango. I do not pay attention to the world known names, I believe what I see. Don't characterize me as someone, who shows disrespect to all known tango figures

Re: [Tango-L] A true tango

2008-01-19 Thread Tango For Her
--- Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a strange world this is - and what a strange > list. We already have Chris UK [who???] telling > us that Gustavo Naviera is useless. Now we have > Krasimir Stoyanov - does anyone even know who > he is or how he can dance - telling us that a > legendary

Re: [Tango-L] A true tango

2008-01-19 Thread Chris, UK
> Tango, once you get past, say the beginner-intermediate stage, is > improvised Tango, once you are doing it at all, is improvised. You're a beginner only once you've begun. -- Chris ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.ed

[Tango-L] The Top Six Tango Cities of the World?

2008-01-19 Thread Mario
What are your top Ten Tango Cities of the world? Ranked by; 1. Number of Milongas/Practicas occurring each week 2. Number of dancers attending 3. Quality of dancing 4. Availability of Tango instruction 5. Popularity of it's Annual Tango Festival We all know which city will be

Re: [Tango-L] A true tango

2008-01-19 Thread Tango For Her
I want to clarify that my last post was not directed at Keith. I was just answering his rhetorical question. :o\ And, again, it isn't directed at anyone. I was just observing that tango is improvised and, therefore, we all get different things out of it AND places like blogs and lists are where

[Tango-L] The Top Six Tango Cities of the World? ..and how about the Top Six, here??

2008-01-19 Thread Mario
While in conversation at a practica, a woman from Colombia informed me that Colombia (Medallin) is THE place outside of Buenos Aires for encountering serious social tango. Since then, I've heard about tango being the national dance of Finland and I can't help but be impressed by the many impr

Re: [Tango-L] The Top Six Tango Cities of the USA?

2008-01-19 Thread Tango For Her
Providence, RI www.ProvidenceTango.com Top-notch nuevo tango and exchange of lead and follow. They have an all-night milonga to which people come from all over. And, Ellen's cooking is to die for! Of course, NYC. ___

Re: [Tango-L] A true tango

2008-01-19 Thread Tango For Her
That scene in the salon in the movie, "Tango", ... are you saying it is or is not his daughter? I had heard that it is his daughter. And, whether you think it is ballet (huh?) or not, it is very beatiful and inspires me. His focus is on allowing her to feel beauty in the dance. I get chills!

[Tango-L] What is choreography

2008-01-19 Thread Igor Polk
I am not going to talk much about it: take a book teaching choreography and read it. I am sure you will be surprised with the vastness of the material to know to be able to choreograph a dance. I am going to talk only about something related to the myth (yeah, a myth again ) that choreography is m

Re: [Tango-L] European and American pseudo-tango dancers

2008-01-19 Thread Victor Bennetts
I don't require my tango teachers to be charming dinner companions any more than I require this of my doctor. But I do expect them to have good technique. Just have a look at the first two dances on the CITA 2007 video. First you have Javier with impeccable technique. Then you get Fabian who is

Re: [Tango-L] The Top Six Tango Cities of the World?

2008-01-19 Thread Victor Bennetts
I have not done much tango tourism, but based on followers I have danced with from around the world the scene in Korea must be amazing. CAUTION - Disclaimer * This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the address

Re: [Tango-L] A True tango - Copes

2008-01-19 Thread Victor Bennetts
Carlos Saura is a great *Spanish* director and I think that comes across pretty clearly in his movie about tango i.e. it is terrible. Just compare it to his earlier movie about flamenco (Carmen) which is superior in every way (the movie that is, not necessarily the dance). Admittedly I may be a

Re: [Tango-L] A True tango - Copes

2008-01-19 Thread Keith
So, I suppose on that basis, we can say Jesse Owens wasn't really that good because nowadays he wouldn't even qualify for the Olympics, let alone win 4 gold medals. No need to be too deferential? How soon people forget. Keith, HK On Sun Jan 20 9:35 , Victor Bennetts sent: Yes, Copes is a

Re: [Tango-L] The Top Six Tango Cities of the World?

2008-01-19 Thread Astrid
Tokyo has quite a few milongas, among these 3-4 owned by Argentines, and the rest by Japanese, so on some days there are several to choose from. The number of dancers can be between 20 and 120, I guess. There are also some special events in larger halls, with live music. Many of the great names