[Tango-L] Volcada (instructional video)

2008-09-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Sighe
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Re: [Tango-L] Volcada (instructional video)

2008-09-05 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Jean-Pierre, Thanks for sharing your video, however, it looks to me as if your partner allows her back to collapse during the carpa instead of maintaining a strong core. I think your video needs more information on that aspect and on what you mean by "support" so that the women are protected.

Re: [Tango-L] Labor Day Festival: a complaint

2008-09-05 Thread Jack Dylan
I also dislike this 30 seconds of chit-chat on the dance floor. Just what is its purpose? Someone told me it was so that the dancers could hear the music before starting to dance but, IMO, that just doesn't ring true.. Firstly, they're chatting, not listening and, secondly, the 5 seconds to make

Re: [Tango-L] Talking on the floor (was Labor Day Festival: a complaint)

2008-09-05 Thread Tango Mail
Jack, I typically chat with old friends in-between the songs, because we usually only meet at Festivals, and neither of us is going to be sitting down to chat. So, in order to catch up and to be interested in each others lives and developments, that occurs in-between the songs. Typically this

Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit-chat (was Labor Day Festival: a complaint)

2008-09-05 Thread Jay Rabe
Jack wrote: "I also dislike this 30 seconds of chit-chat on the dance floor. Just what is its purpose?" - I heard somewhere that in the early days of tango, the time before the music started was the only time that a young man could talk to a young woman out of earshot of her chaperons. Obvi

[Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit-chat

2008-09-05 Thread Tango Society of Central Illinois
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Jack Dylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also dislike this 30 seconds of chit-chat on the dance floor. Just what is > its > purpose? Someone told me it was so that the dancers could hear the music > before starting to dance but, IMO, that just doesn't ring true..

Re: [Tango-L] Talking on the floor (was Labor Day Festival: a complaint)

2008-09-05 Thread NANCY
I was told by a porteno that the men use that time to listen to the music and decide how they will dance it given the woman in their arms. Small talk, getting to know one another, sharing info about other milongas or discussing the music are ways one can spend that time. Whatever it is, I real

Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit-chat (was Labor Day Festival: a complaint)

2008-09-05 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Jay Rabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack wrote: "I also dislike this 30 seconds of chit-chat on the dance floor. > Just what is its purpose?" > - > I heard somewhere that in the early days of tango, the time before the music > started was the only time that

Re: [Tango-L] Volcada (instructional video)

2008-09-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Sighe
Hi Trini, If her back were to collapse, she would instantly become very heavy, almost slipping away under me and most importantly, she would not be able to sustain such pressure on her back. I can affirm to you that none of that happens. My lovely partner can stay there in the carpa as long as I

[Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit-chat an Argentine custom

2008-09-05 Thread Sergio Vandekier
It was said: "What I've read about the chit chat in BsAs and it's origins, was that was the only chance for a young suitor to talk to the girl with whom he was dancing with, because it would not have been proper to sit next to her after the dancing; she was there with a chaperone. Remember th

Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit-chat

2008-09-05 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
This is all very interesting. And I am sure the 30 sec chat serves various intended purposes. However, all I need/want to know about my dance partner I learn through dancing with her, not through talking with her. Actually having any spoken conversation is very distracting for me. But, hey, my p

Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit-chat an Argentine custom

2008-09-05 Thread Ilene Marder
yes , this is all true in terms of the "talk" time between dancing, especially in more socially restricted times... but I've also had many people in BsAs, including some key milongueros, tell me it is because of the /music... /a good dancer wants to hear the beat before he starts ( and there wer

Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit-chat an Argentine custom

2008-09-05 Thread Nina Pesochinsky
When women are very young, they want men to talk to them. It is the only way they know how to connect. This is "female". Girls are not only born that way, but also socialized. When women mature, some loose their attraction to talk because they have heard a lot and not much is new. They

[Tango-L] 30 second chit-chat an Argentine custom

2008-09-05 Thread Sergio Vandekier
Most people go to the milonga to dance, to immerse themselves in the world of the milonga. Every code has a reason to exist. The 30 seconds between tangos are used as described by Ilene and Nancy to "get the feeling of the music".Most people arrive to the milonga, greet their friends, wi

Re: [Tango-L] Labor Day Festival: a complaint

2008-09-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This same delay in the start of dancing occurs in the danzon. The introduction, or about the first 16 measures, are not danced. When the introduction is then repeated during the music, the dancers stop again. Danzon originated in Cuba from a French contradance by way of Haiti. If you believe th

[Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit chat, was labor day complaint

2008-09-05 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
Jack Dylan asked about the reason for the 30 seconds that seems idle "chit chat" after the music starts. Here's is one possible explanation that comes to my mind, I am sure there are others. It goes along with the BA tradition of clearing the floor during the cortina, which has other obvious bene

Re: [Tango-L] 30 second chit-chat an Argentine custom

2008-09-05 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
If there were any ladies on this list who might have danced with me, they could testify that I do not "just start like a robot." There are way too many assumptions here about how and why I dance (I won't argue about that, not important what you may think of me personally) and why I do not care

Re: [Tango-L] Volcada (instructional video)

2008-09-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jean-Pierre Sighé writes in the following link ---> The Cruzada MUST be lead and not just assumed. http://www.tangomagdalena.com/Newsletters/vol12_august08.html Actually ALL parts of a volcada combination must be lead. The volcada is just the extreme lean. Lean + amague/front boleo + cruz

Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit chat, was labor day complaint

2008-09-05 Thread MACFroggy
Here in Buenos Aires it's part of the codigos that because the tango is so intimate, between the music during the chit-chat time, there is no touching of the other person. Kind of a time to return to normal, before taking up the intimate embrace again. It's actually considered bad manners for a

[Tango-L] Robot dancing

2008-09-05 Thread Sergio Vandekier
Estimado Dubravko, I have never seen your dancing. I assume that you are a very good tango dancer. I really believe this on the basis of your comments about tango, milongas, culture, your visit to B.A., etc Your name frequently comes up in Tallahassee, Florida as we

Re: [Tango-L] Robot dancing

2008-09-05 Thread NANCY
Although I have already replied to this thread I thought more about why I like the chat time between songs within a tanda. I also like the eye contact. Argentine men have a way of looking deeply into one's eyes - whether it is passing on the street, across a cup of coffee, or doing a simple b

Re: [Tango-L] Robot dancing

2008-09-05 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
Dear Sergio (and other members of this group): Thank you for your kind words -- no offense was taken, indeed. I fully support everything you said. Regardless of how proficient one is with anything, luckily, there is always more to learn. I really came to believe that "the more you know, the mor