Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #5

2009-04-20 Thread Shahrukh Merchant
Trini de Pittsburgh says: > a lot of people have been saying - that the dancing, specifically navigation, > has grown worse in BsAs over the past few years. That is absolutely my observation. Or maybe my tolerance to bad navigation has decreased so I notice it more, but I really don't think th

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #6: Social customs

2009-04-20 Thread Shahrukh Merchant
> Several years ago, somebody wrote on the list that you shouldn?t take > photos or videos at milongas because some people don?t want to be seen > with partners they aren?t married to. I thought this was strange but > then the Argentine culture is different from the American culture. Yes, I've see

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-04-20 Thread Alexis Cousein
Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote: > So you basically made her self-conscious about her walk for the rest of the > night. Not to mention that if she didn't cross, it may well be because the cross wasn't lead properly (or depending on your point of view, not-a-cross was lead but not on purpose)... _

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #7: Milonga Review

2009-04-20 Thread Noughts
Fairly consistently in BA is the 2-1-2-1 approach. Even at a 'nuevo' milonga. However, at the nuevo milongas, they add in a single tanda of 'nuevo' music for 1 of the tango tandas every 2nd cycle if that is 1 cycle described... La Viruta, same cylcle, but they will play cylces of 6 songs in each

[Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #5‏

2009-04-20 Thread larry...@juno.com
ARGENTINE DANCERS HAVING NAVIGATION PROBLEMS Of course they have them. Argentines are people too. They make mistakes, come in all levels of skill, and so on. It's idiotic to go to BsAs and expect perfection. LEVELS OF SKILL IN ARGENTINA The average level of skill in Argentina is lower than in

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #5

2009-04-20 Thread Noughts
Maybe, just maybe, like everywhere and everyone, there is a bell curve here... Are Argentines exempt because they are Argentine?  No, I really don't think so... So, 10% are useless no hopers that even with lessons can't dance... Then 15% are beginners etc to 10% that are professional level and

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #7: Milonga Review

2009-04-20 Thread Sorin Varzaru
> > > 5. Miscellaneous > > DJs seem to follow the 2-1-2-1 approach to music. 2 tandas of tango, 1 > > tanda waltz, 2 tandas tango, 1 tanda of milonga. In the States, the > > pattern seems to be > > 4-1-4-1. > Where are you dancing? In the NE (Boston, NYC, Montreal) I have heard either 2-1-2-1 or 2

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #7: Milonga Review

2009-04-20 Thread Vince Bagusauskas
-- From: "Michael" Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:41 AM To: "Tango-L List" Subject: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #7: Milonga Review > 3. Milonga de los Consagrados @ central region leonesa (This is the > same location for Mi Refugio and Ni

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #4: Before you dance?

2009-04-20 Thread Don Klein
> > Sergio Vandekier wrote: > > To exchange money you may use banks, Casas de cambio ("Cambio", or ATM > machines. > The ATM machine may charge a fee if you use cards from a different banck, it > will not charge a fee if you use a branch of the bank that isued the card. > (This is the same as a

[Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #7: Milonga Review

2009-04-20 Thread Michael
My vacation is coming to an end. Instead of just dropping names of milongas, I´m posting my review. Hopefully others will do the same. I. Lo de Celia The floor is square with a line that goes around the perimeter. The table set up is Men

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #5

2009-04-20 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Jack Dylan wrote: > > I was recently there for 6 weeks and am full of admiration > for the way the Argentines are able to dance comfortably in crowded > conditions. It's what I'm seeking to emulate and I'm > certainly not going to blame anyone else for the problems I encoun

Re: [Tango-L] Reports from Buenos Aires: Navigation et al.

2009-04-20 Thread Jay Rabe
Ron, enjoyed your perspective. Please expand on last comment: > I believe it is also correct to say that the quality of tango dancing > in the US has deteriorated over the last several years. >From my limited experience here in Portland and a couple of other West Coast >areas, I think dance ski

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #5

2009-04-20 Thread Jay Rabe
I thought Michael made it clear at least in a subsequent post that the problems he described were not ones that he experienced, but that he witnessed. It's difficult to speculate how he might have contributed to that. J _ Re

[Tango-L] Reports from Buenos Aires: Navigation et al.

2009-04-20 Thread Tango Society of Central Illinois
Club Gricel has a long and narrow dance floor, the smallest width to length ratio of any milonga dance floor in Buenos Aires that I know of. The length of the floor can accommodate a lot of dancers in a moving line of dance; however there is less mobility in the narrow middle, so it is more likely

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #5

2009-04-20 Thread Jack Dylan
> From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com   > > Given that quite a few people on this list have also acknowledge the recent > problems in BsAs, I think attacking Michael for his dance skills was > unnecessary. > That might well be true but I'm fairly confident in saying that Michael

Re: [Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #5

2009-04-20 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
It seems to me that Michael's report confirms what a lot of people have been saying - that the dancing, specifically navigation, has grown worse in BsAs over the past few years. Michael reported about a specific milonga. It could have been, as some have suggested, a particularly bad night. H

[Tango-L] Report from Buenos Aires #6: Social customs

2009-04-20 Thread Michael
Several years ago, somebody wrote on the list that you shouldn´t take photos or videos at milongas because some people don´t want to be seen with partners they aren´t married to. I thought this was strange but then the Argentine culture is different from the American culture. An Argentine man, who