Yes, you may imagine me being slightly peeved when I see people doing
tango moves while trying to dance milonga.
I feel sorry for the women being pushed around to make something happen
that just isn't natural.
And I feel sorry for the men who just don't get it.
1-2/2-2
Is not at all the same as
It's true that, post-Piazzolla, a thinking has crept in that the music and
the dance are not the same thing.
This thinking and retro-view recitation does not make it so.
The dance and the music were integral. Always - until the 1950's.
The people who created it all didn't sit and listen to vals.
Since my association with Tango a mere 30 months ago, I have searched for an
authoritive definition of Tango. This list is testament to the difficulty of
this task. One of the most surprising discoveries was that about 50% of the
tango dancers I know, don't like tango music. So not surprisingly, mo
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> From: Keith Elshaw
>
> All the above is, I'm afraid, reproduction of myth and mis-information.
>
Thanks Keith; I suppose you were there?
Jack
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> I agree with Keith... when I studied la musica at the Academia Nacional
> del Tango for a few weeks, it was made clear that milonga predated
> tango >
I was talking about dance, not music and I agree wth Andrew. Yes, milonga
music predated tango but it was no
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> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:15:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] What Do You Think?
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> If not, where are the bounds?
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Ok so let's face it: WHY have we all come to Tango - nuevos or
whateversaloners or Milongueros? because there is some feeling, there
is connection, there is some magic - sorry to say but excpt wen I
watch Chico and his partner (sorry forgot her name my apoogies) I see
NO MAGIC and NO connection i
Keith, note how Andrew says:
"The milonga we dance nowadays"
The milonga from the 19th century was a different music from the
milonga that developed in the 1930s. The roots of tango may have been
the older milonga, but today's (1930s and later) milonga came out of
the tango of the 1920s, no
I agree with Keith... when I studied la musica at the Academia Nacional
del Tango for a few weeks, it was made clear that milonga predated
tango and, btw, was not at all dirge like!!! (where did that come
from???) The great tango guitarist Anibal Arias said it had its roots
in southern Brazi
> Milonga pre-dated tango.
>
> The milonga we dance nowadays [2 beats to the bar, fastish ,as in Milonga
> sentimental] only goes back to the 30's. The pre-dating one was a slow
> dirge played by the payadores towards the end on the 19th Century and
> hardly ever danced to. Piazzolla revived it in
--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Keith Elshaw wrote:
> From: Keith Elshaw
> Subject: [Tango-L] What Do You Think?
> To: tango-l@mit.edu
> Date: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 6:42 PM
>
> Jack wrote:
>
> "After all, Milonga only became part of the 'Tango Trinity'
> in the 1930s."
>
> Uh - no.
>
> Milonga pre-d
Jack wrote:
"After all, Milonga only became part of the 'Tango Trinity' in the 1930s."
Uh - no.
Milonga pre-dated tango.
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> From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
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>
> I'm not hypothesizing that Nuevo is not tango. I don't see that it can't be
> tango the same way Finnish Tango is a type of tango, or International Tango
> is a
> type of tango. Why insist that extreme Nuevo is Argentine Tango?
>
Why can't we think o
--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Noughts wrote:
> For me, quite simply because it's
> not. It's Argentine. Just the
> updates to the style are 'new'...
One could say the same thing about the moves from International, Finnish, or
American tango back when those dances were developing. Isn't it possible
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