[Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-23 Thread Brian Dunn
"Sandhill", you wrote: >>> I wonder why there seems to be a disconnect between [Chicho's] personal concept of tango and what the people who comprise his school of dance, broadly speaking, seem to express. <<< Well, you know, Picasso's students perhaps exhibited a similar failing... but that doesn'

Re: [Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-23 Thread Anton Stanley
I can dance in a state of Tango spiritually and with the music without a partner. But I don't believe I'm dancing tango. Throughout history, most humans and primates danced singularly, connected to their spirituality and the rhythmic beat. Many Eastern and Folk dances are still danced without the t

Re: [Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-23 Thread joanneprochaska
Many followers I have talked to are in despair over the fact that many of heir local leaders have stopped improving. But from a leader's point of iew, after all, he gets an acceptable number of dances at his current skill evel. After getting all dressed up for a milonga, followers might rather

Re: [Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-23 Thread Anton Stanley
Joanne wrote: "She does not have to dance with anyone she does not want to dance with. If the men hold it against her, then we might as well as be living in a police state, eh??? Teachers need to teach their women students that IT IS OK TO SAY NO, and why. If women do not uphold the standards of

Re: [Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-23 Thread Jack Dylan
> From: "joanneprocha...@aol.com" joanneprocha...@aol.com > In my book, women should be quite confident that > if one man cannot meet her needs (give her a nice dance), then, not to worry > because there is another one who can ...> Maybe yes, maybe no. Joanne, I understand what you're saying

Re: [Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-24 Thread Sandhill Crane
> From: joanneprocha...@aol.com > Teachers need to teach their women students that IT IS OK > TO SAY NO, and why. If women do not uphold the > standards of good dancing, then all will "go to in > handbasket:", as they say. Be careful what you wish for, as they say. The most likely outcom

Re: [Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-24 Thread Laura V
Jack Dylan wrote: > Maybe ladies need to be prepared to accept a few 'not-so-good' tandas so that > they > can get a few 'good' tandas. But that's everyone's choice to make. True...but the way I understood Joanne's comments is that there is a difference between a "bad" dancer and an inexperien

Re: [Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero" vs. "nice close embrace": what to do?

2009-11-25 Thread Sandhill Crane
--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Brian Dunn wrote: > According to the interview, Chicho is drawing a distinction > between "antique tango" as a "violently marked" tango, > as opposed to "today's" tango, whose dancers are "able to > dance without barely touching one another". Hmm, yes, good point. I wonde

[Tango-L] Chicho interview - "Violent Milonguero " vs. "nice close embrace": what to do? (B rian Dunn)

2009-11-24 Thread Tango22
Brian wrote - Chicho is drawing a distinction between "antique tango" as a "violently marked" tango, as opposed to "today's" tango, whose dancers are "able to dance without barely touching one another". The history of tango dance over the decades since the 1920's can be seen from one perspect