Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-08 Thread tango
Hi Charles, about being refused: also about that I wrote in the book... one thing, just invite One new person every milonga you go... that would be already super! Being refused hurts - activate the same cerebral zone... Charles Roques wrote: >I want to spread good tango karma, give back some

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-04 Thread HBBOOGIE1
Bob I agree with you Orlando Paiva was my hero and the maestro of elegant tango. I often watch the ego driven men trying to lead beginners in moves way beyond their limits only adding to their frustration and embarrassment. I find a simple walk with an intermittent turn danced to the mu

[Tango-L] elitism

2011-02-04 Thread sherpal1
Martin: What you discuss is completely clear to methat is why all students need to be taught not only tango steps, pasos, figures, whatever you want to call them...but they must also be taught tango esthetics. Always the flashy dancers catch the eye of the ill-or non-informed. They have not

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-04 Thread rhink2
Guys, I'm amazed. I 've been dancing A. tango for almost 18 years, and I've never heard anything quite like this. First, about cliques. Do they exist? Almost certainly. Are they a result of elitism? Well, possibly, but consider this. When one goes through classes and workshops with a group of

Re: [Tango-L] ELITISM

2011-02-04 Thread barbara
Yes, let's hear it for Mexico City!! Al and I have been there twice and found it the friendliest tango community we have ever experienced (only rivalled by Bs As in the '80s when we were the only foreign visitors). With lots of good dancers as well, of various styles, and mixing styles. I dance

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-04 Thread Sandhill Crane
--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Siamak Tazari wrote: > it is somewhat depressing and discouraging to follow a lot of > posts here because they often suggest the idea - from both men > and women - that only those who have perfected the art already > and are sitting in the high towers of tango are entitled to

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Siamak Tazari
Hi, I have recently joined this list and I am a male dancer in my late twenties, dancing tango for about a year now. Elitism is exactly the word that really strikes me when I read many of the posts on this list - even when it is the subject being discussed. Quite honestly, it is somewhat depressin

[Tango-L] ELITISM

2011-02-03 Thread Mario
 I liked Jack's post a lot. I hope to join him in that same pilgramage someday soon.   It was the word 'cliques' however that inspired me to post. I recently went to two milongas, one in Mex. city and one in Queretaro Mex.  The BIG simularity of the two dances was that everyone danced with eve

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Jack Dylan
Martin, It sounds like we followed the same route in our tango. Whenever I get back fom BsAs, the first thing people say is "Let's see your new stuff." Well, I'm sorry but there is no 'new stuff'. In BsAs I take a lot of privates with my milonguera teacher and we work on the basics. If anything

[Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Charles Roques
I want to spread good tango karma, give back something to this dance that has enriched my life. I see a newbie not being asked to dance. I ask her to dance. We do the best we can, nothing flashy, just a simple dance. But now better followers, especially those who are visiting from out of town

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
edu] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:11 PM To: Nussbaum, Martin Cc: tango-l@mit.edu Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Elitism Why not dance with the better dancers for the first 40 min, then ask the newbies? By that time, your abilities will have been noticed. But surely, your scenario is only true in a

Re: [Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
ur "newbie" dance? Gordon - Original Message - From: "Nussbaum, Martin" Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:04 pm Subject: [Tango-L] Elitism To: tango-l@mit.edu > There is another problem with elitism that hasnt been discussed > yet, and > that i

[Tango-L] Elitism

2011-02-03 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
There is another problem with elitism that hasnt been discussed yet, and that is typecasting. I have had the following experience in NYC, but it may be universal. Lets say some nights I'm feeling in a better mood than others, feeling genenrous, I want to spread good tango karma, give back somethin