Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-23 Thread Michael
Argentine Tango - - with the Argentines - Original Message - From: "Mario" Subject: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need? It seems like the alternative to lots of variety in steps is to either do few steps better and/or do the walk with more variety. For the close embrace enth

[Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-21 Thread Mario
It seems like the alternative to lots of variety in steps is to either do few steps better and/or do the walk with more variety. For the close embrace enthusiast who doesn't want to break the embrace in order to do a figure, there is the search for a more profound connection throughout the figures

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-20 Thread Noughts
Trini I would agree with this immesely - as a follower, certainly I'm more limited.  As a leader, I don't have to think anywhere near as much as most of my leading dance process is now well and truly bedded. However, when many of the women I know start to lead, they go through this enormous learn

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-20 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Gary wrote: > > When I decide to lead at a milonga, I'm always > thinking "what else  > > can I do?" > > I don't get this feeling often, but its a killer when it > happens.  (BTW, I'm almost certain that the writer knows a lot more > 'stuff'  than me.) I wrote the first s

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-19 Thread Gary
I was struck by this observation: > When I decide to lead at a milonga, I'm always thinking "what else > can I do?" I don't get this feeling often, but its a killer when it happens. (BTW, I'm almost certain that the writer knows a lot more 'stuff' than me.) I've realised that I only have t

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-18 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
should be pooh-poohing learning figures just because it's learning figures. Learning figures at the expense of partner connection, though, would be bad. Trini de Pittsburgh --- On Sun, 5/17/09, roger wrote: > From: roger > Subject: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need? > To:

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-18 Thread Michael
Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need? >I have just read all the emails on 'How many figures do you need?' . The >response seem to reflect the remarks made about making love. The males seem > all obsessed on "How many" and fem

[Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-17 Thread roger
I have just read all the emails on 'How many figures do you need?' . The response seem to reflect the remarks made about making love. The males seem all obsessed on "How many" and female response is one of "It's not how many, but what you do with them." (Replace "many" with "big" and you see my po

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-13 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Wed, 5/13/09, www.tango-argentino.info wrote: > you need all steps, as much as you like, it's not that you > have to dance them all, but you need them for to study, for > improvising, to become free, so that you can dance, walk in any direction, > you can turn to the right, to the left,

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-13 Thread www.tango-argentino.info
Hi Michael, you need all steps, as much as you like, it's not that you have to dance them all, but you need them for to study, for improvising, to become free, so that you can dance, walk in any direction, you can turn to the right, to the left, you can dance voleos, sacadas etc etc in nearly

[Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-12 Thread Pat Petronio
I certainly agree with Melina on this one. "I've danced with a lot of good dancers, who have a quite limited repertoire and with even more bad dancers with a huge repertoire! Some may find that boring, but I'm searching for the quality within a single movement." It seems that the discussio

[Tango-L] How many figures do you need? / no AT in Lake Wobegone, MN

2009-05-11 Thread michael
> > > How frequently are you able to incorporate what you learned from festivals > and workshops into your dance? > > It's a slow Saturday night and I'm writing as I listen to Garrison > Keillor's monologue. Unfortunately, there's no AT in Lake Wobegone, MN,. > > Michael > Washington, DC Just dow

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-11 Thread
Melina, you could go even one step (sic) further: you only need the connection with your partner, the music and the floor. Everything else is just decoration. In order to be a good dancer no externally visible movement is necessary. It's just (more?) fun. Daniel, fan of simple tango. PS: Of

[Tango-L] How many figures...

2009-05-11 Thread Melina Sedo & Detlef Engel
> Hi Joe and all! > Indeed! No figures. Period. (begs the question, what is a figure, but > good rule) >> You can be an excellent dancer, if you just walk forward - provided >> you do it musically, connected to the partner with a nice embrace. > > But... do you really just walk "forward"? And, n

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-11 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
s life is not a rehearsal === From: Bertil Nestorius To: "tango-l@mit.edu" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:10:26 AM Subject: Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need? For me a molinette is what the woman/follower dance when the couple is doing a Giro. That means mol

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-11 Thread Bertil Nestorius
t: Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need? > > Michael wrote: > > I enjoyed my vacation in BA even though some tried to tell me what to do. I > > observed that the Argentines use the following figures: > > > > Back ocho > > Low Boleo > > Walking

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-11 Thread Alexis Cousein
Michael wrote: > I enjoyed my vacation in BA even though some tried to tell me what to do. I > observed that the Argentines use the following figures: > > Back ocho > Low Boleo > Walking > Ocho Cortado > Giros (called molinetes north of the equator) We also call'em giros - you need to involve a

[Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-10 Thread Joe Grohens
Melina wrote: > How many figures do you need to be a good dancer? In my opinion? NOT > ONE STEP! Indeed! No figures. Period. (begs the question, what is a figure, but good rule) > You can be an excellent dancer, if you just walk forward - provided > you do it musically, connected to the par

[Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-10 Thread Melina Sedo & Detlef Engel
How many figures do you need to be a good dancer? In my opinion? NOT ONE STEP! You can be an excellent dancer, if you just walk forward - provided you do it musically, connected to the partner with a nice embrace. If you are furthermore able to communicate a shift of weight in place, a sides

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-10 Thread Tango Society of Central Illinois
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Steve Littler wrote: > How about the cruzada (cross), or the little cross (half-signal)? (Or is > that already considered in Ocho Cortado?) > > I usually end back ochos with a cross or forward/backward boleo. The terminology isn't always consistent. The linear wa

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-10 Thread Sergey Kazachenko
You don't *need* most of the ***adas. However, you *can* incorporate them to spice up the dance. Specifically: - volcadas - I use them sporadically (at most once per song, usually <=1 per tanda) if I feel the connection with the partner is especially strong; when they work, they are fun! - sacadas

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-09 Thread Jack Dylan
True! The Front Cross, or Cruzada, is one of the most beautiful steps in Tango! Especially following a Low Boleo. Exquisite. Jack > From: Steve Littler > > How about the cruzada (cross), > ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu htt

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-09 Thread Steve Littler
How about the cruzada (cross), or the little cross (half-signal)? (Or is that already considered in Ocho Cortado?) I usually end back ochos with a cross or forward/backward boleo. Steve > ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.e

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-09 Thread Jack Dylan
Provided they're gentle, subtle and led mostly with the torso, I think Sacadas are quite popular in BA. But, as Ron has written,  the major elements are the embrace and musicality. Jack > From: Michael > > I enjoyed my vacation in BA even though some tried to tell me what to do. I > observe

Re: [Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-09 Thread Tango Society of Central Illinois
MIchael, >From what I've observed, that's about right. The low boleo isn't needed, so - Walking - Back ocho - Ocho Cortado - Giro will do just fine. But don't forget a good embrace and good musicality. Ron On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Michael wrote: > I enjoyed my vacation in BA even th

[Tango-L] How many figures do you need?

2009-05-09 Thread Michael
I enjoyed my vacation in BA even though some tried to tell me what to do. I observed that the Argentines use the following figures: Back ocho Low Boleo Walking Ocho Cortado Giros (called molinetes north of the equator) I've read messages on Tango A about workshops and festivals for colgaldas, v