[Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-05 Thread Sergey Kazachenko
Sandhill Crane wrote in another topic: > (yes, using the 8 count basic with dreaded back step) I am looking for an answer to why is the basic step taught with the back step and can't think of any reason other than "tradition". Why shouldn't we remove the back step and make a 7-count basic? If you

[Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-08 Thread jb34528
In all due respect, the more trivial the subject the more debate it generates. Just counted 33 posts - mine is No.34. No, I did not read any of these. Apparently, professor Parkinson's Law of large numbers has an analogous version in Tango-L. My $0.02: The leader determines what step to lead ba

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-05 Thread Christian Lüthen
Sergey Kazachenko wrote to Tango-L: > > Sandhill Crane wrote in another topic: > > (yes, using the 8 count basic with dreaded back step) > > I am looking for an answer to why is the basic step taught with the > back step and can't think of any reason other than "tradition". You'd better check

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-05 Thread barbara
Yes this is truly a mystery. Al and I never teach the dreaded back step; we describe step 1 as a "preparation to dance", in other words an opportunity to establish the weighted foot, check posture and embrace, and soften the knees preparatory to the side step. We use the 1 through 5 count only,

Re: [Tango-L] the dreaded back step

2010-01-05 Thread Tango22
> From: Sergey Kazachenko > I am looking for an answer to why is the basic step taught with the > back step and can't think of any reason other than "tradition". > Why shouldn't we remove the back step and make a 7-count basic? > > Another thing that always puzzled me is the way ocho

Re: [Tango-L] the dreaded back step

2010-01-06 Thread Jack Dylan
I would agree that an 8-count Basic, commencing with a back step and ending with a Resolution is not a good place to start learning Tango and is a figure that, probably, should never be danced, IMHO. The 8 count Basic that I prefer is LF side, walk to the cross and then forward walk to a close o

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-06 Thread rhink2
This is a recurring topic on the List. If one googles "tango-l back step", one will find many threads on this topic (e.g.http://www.tango-l.com/archives/Tango-L/msg02236.html). My understanding of the 8-count basic is that it's a school figure that hits the four cardinal points on the compass

Re: [Tango-L] the dreaded back step

2010-01-06 Thread John Lowry
..The previous example quoted, while removing the back step on count 1, then adds in 2 back steps on counts 5 an 6,doesn't progress down the floor and, IMHO, is even worse than the 8CBWDBS. Jack OK, but it is not quite as blunt an instrument as that Jack. However we find it works we

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-07 Thread www.tango-argentino.info
Hello dear tango dancers, I'm one of the teachers who teach his dancers the back step. Also in my videos courses I always dance the back step. Not as the first step of a tango, that step has always to be in the direction of the dance or to the side, but during the dance, you have to see, to f

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-07 Thread Tom Stermitz
On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:04 AM, www.tango-argentino.info wrote: > Hello dear tango dancers, > I'm one of the teachers who teach his dancers the back step. Also in > my videos courses I always dance the back step. > ... > I learned the back step of all my meastros: Pepito Avellaneda, > Antonio Todaro,

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-07 Thread Michael
I avoid teaching the 8 count basic. You have to remember what it's like to be beginner. Beginners will try to follow what is taught in EVERY situation, and that includes milongas. Telling them "this is to give you guidance in movement but don't dance it at a milonga" is not helpful. It's difficult

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-07 Thread Alexis Cousein
Michael wrote: > I avoid teaching the 8 count basic. You have to remember what it's > like to be beginner. Beginners will try to follow what is taught in > EVERY situation, and that includes milongas. Telling them "this is to > give you guidance in movement but don't dance it at a milonga" is not >

Re: [Tango-L] The dreaded back step

2010-01-08 Thread HBBOOGIE1
Jan this is #35 Your 2 cents is worth $200 David In a message dated 1/8/2010 12:15:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jb34...@att.net writes: In all due respect, the more trivial the subject the more debate it generates. Just counted 33 posts - mine is No.34. No, I did not read any of these.