A couple of nights ago, our original tango band reunited (the band's leader had
been in Argentina for about a year) and played at a local milonga. It was a
great success and they sounded great for dancing. Over the years the band has
changed members as musicians graduated and moved, so that th
On 09/05/2010 00:54, Huck Kennedy wrote:
> Nope. It means just what I said: I've yet to hear one that
> comes even remotely close.
The devil is in the implicit qualifiers: "to the Golden Age
bands that I've heard, which were probably not a representative
sample of all Golden Age bands".
>
> From: Huck Kennedy
> Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 15:54:19 -0700
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:20 PM, AJ Azure
> wrote:
>
>>> As I said, there are good an bad bands.
>&
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:20 PM, AJ Azure wrote:
>
>>> As I said, there are good an bad bands.
>>
>> I have yet to hear an American tango band attempting to play the
>> tango classics that can come anywhere even close to the Golden Age
>> bands. Not even remotely.
>
> So then of course that m
>> As I said, there are good an bad bands.
>
> I have yet to hear an American tango band attempting to play the
> tango classics that can come anywhere even close to the Golden Age
> bands. Not even remotely.
So then of course that means you've heard them all and then there can't be
anythi
Huck, I'm confused. You seem to be arguing both sides of the equation
> From: Huck Kennedy
> Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 14:13:27 -0700
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Alexis Cousein
of it, no point in trying
otherwise".
Just imagine all the things in the world that would have been crushed out of
existence if that thought process been followed.
_A
> From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
> Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 21:34:13 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Tango-L
> Sub
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Alexis Cousein wrote:
> On 06/05/2010 04:32, Huck Kennedy wrote:
> > AJ Azure wrote:
>>> You'll never really find a group you like if you first assume you won't like
>>> them.
>>
>> Now that makes no logical sense at all. There is always room
>> for the el
Quick recap. Ron mentioned some ways of educating people on listening to
traditional music. AJ wondered why Ron didn't include live music as a way of
teaching musicality. I responded, giving specific points. I still stand by my
statements. In short,
- it's not feasible for most communities
On 06/05/2010 04:32, Huck Kennedy wrote:
>> You'll never really find a group you like if you first assume you won't like
>> them.
>
>Now that makes no logical sense at all. There is always room
> for the element of pleasant surprise.
The fact of the matter (and why it is indeed logical) i
On 05/05/2010 23:27, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote:
> No, that's based on most of my experience with actual bands.
That would fit most of my experience as well, but not all of it.
So I'd be careful not to generalise too much, especially if you want
to foster an attitude of cooperation (and we cer
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:43 PM, AJ Azure wrote:
>
> As I said, there are good an bad bands.
I have yet to hear an American tango band attempting to play the
tango classics that can come anywhere even close to the Golden Age
bands. Not even remotely.
> There's that elitist attitude rearing
No disputing that but, I just don't get nor subscribe to the all or nothing
mentality.
> From: Steve Littler
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 20:21:48 -0400
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
>
> On 5/5/2010 6:34 PM, AJ Azure
ather by how I enjoy it. Do I need
> to apologise?
>
> Anton
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tango-l-boun...@mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-boun...@mit.edu] On Behalf Of
> AJ Azure
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:34 PM
> To: tango-l@mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why a
On 5/5/2010 6:34 PM, AJ Azure wrote:
> Bandoneon (if you can't find it), why?
>
> Tango isn't strictly the cliché orquesta tipica instruments.
I rather prefer the cliché orquesta tipica instruments. There is
something magical about the combination and the bandoneon really makes
the Tango soar.
E
On Behalf Of
AJ Azure
Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:34 PM
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
I run multiple gropes. One is a nostalgia group doing multiple 1900-1940s
styles i.e the way dance bands used to exist. The other group is an
hat happens to be my instrument as
well.
Heck find a duo of guitar and violin and you can get some decent music to
dance to. This isn't an either or. You can still have Djed content and live.
_A
> From: Steve Littler
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:23:42 -0400
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tang
ther
threads isn't welcoming at all.
As far as pay, growing a scene does mean some sacrifice but, it also means
additional sources of income for musicians.
-A
> From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 13:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tan
No, that's based on most of my experience with actual bands. The most active
band in our community has been approached about their music's undanceability.
They've made a conscious decision to go into a different direction. Some jazz
tango blend, which is a shame because they are good musician
I didn't get from your original post that you had a Tango band. I
assumed you had a swing band or some other type.
If you have a Tango Dance band I'm sure everyone on this list would
welcome you to their milonga, over recorded music, if they could afford
your band.
In small cities like where I
eally find a group you like if you first assume you won't like
them.
_A
> From: Anton Stanley
> Reply-To:
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:21:09 -0300
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
>
> Commenting on the below
but, they
can get better and the community can feel invested in their growth.
-A
> From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 13:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
>
> First, there
Commenting on the below post, I would love to dance to and support live
tango bands playing what I perceive to be excellent tango music, comparable
to the great orchestras of the past. Orchestras which gained greatness
through rising to the top of their profession. Often competing for the
privilege
First, there isn't that many musicans around that play tango music, so it
doesn't remain a very viable options for many communities.
Second, a lot of tango bands just plain can't play danceable tango music. They
play Piazzola. They like to show off their musicianship at the expense of the
dan
spect is largely
and sadly ignored.
-A
> From: RonTango
> Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 20:39:23 -0700 (PDT)
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
>
> - Original Message
> From: RonTango
> I
> cannot see
> how
Great suggestions Ron.
Thanks,
Michael
>
> From: RonTango
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like
>tango?
> To: tango-l@mit.edu
> Message-ID: <320893.86804...@web111820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Tom Stermitz wrote:
>
> 1940s tango is great music, but it is unfamiliar to 99% of people
> outside Argentina. It takes time to begin to understand tango, and to
> figure out how to attach feelings to movement. Precisely the SAME
> people with the greatest passion
- Original Message
> From: RonTango
> I cannot see
> how non-tango music gets everybody into the right energy. I would say that it
> is
> more likely that non-tango music gets people into the wrong energy.
> Catering to the people who dislike tango
> music creates communities that
> From: RonTango ronta...@rocketmail.com
>In any case,
> milongueros don't dance steps, they dance the music. It is the movement
> connected to tango music that creates a tango dance. Without tango music, it
> is
> just a bunch of steps. It's not tango.
Absolutely right and I'm amazed that s
You fell in love with everything tango and for the last twenty years it
has been your life until one day you read this sarcastic post on Tango L and
hung yourself with the laces of your tango shoes.
jajajajajajajajajajajaj
In a message dated 5/3/2010 5:23:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
min
You were dancing ballroom when you saw an Argentine tango demo and you thought
that Argentine tango was much more spectacular. And then you made friends in
the tango crowd.
Twenty years ago you saw the show Tango Argentino in San Francisco and swore to
yourself that you'd learn how to do that.
- Original Message
> From: Tom Stermitz
> When I DJ, it is this conversion process
> that I'm trying to create. By
> good musical choices, the emotional
> energy of the crowd can be
> massaged and molded. For tango-experienced
> people, this is possible
> with tango music, but t
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 20:29:08 -0700
From: Tom Stermitz
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like
tango?
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>I've noticed that some of the m
It's true that some people are only interested in shallow images and
metaphors of tango, but you're really talking about tango music &
dance not just cool moves and pretense.
I've noticed that some of the most fanatical Traditional Tango Music
fans started out hating the music, but enticed
'Cause dance is about movement and she liked doing the movements. Or maybe she
only heard bad tango music.
I recently asked a well respected-tango dancer about his experience learning to
dance tango at a young age. I asked what attracted him to tango in his early
teens at a time when only old
I heard the strangest thing last night, and am still puzzling over it. I was
talking to a young woman who recently moved here, and she said she had been
dancing quite some time, and teaching, in her previous city. We talked about a
variety of things, and got to know a little about the difference
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