bug or not?

2004-08-30 Thread Den V. Yafyasov
Hello. I have removed all old filters, having left only new. After that it is sorted nothing. -- Best regards, Den Yafyasov (:DVY:). The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 |

Re: AV with Ctrl+Alt+Shift+T

2004-08-30 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Allie! On Monday, August 30, 2004 at 3:56:20 AM you wrote: Here, that keyboard combo does nothing. Did you use the MSI or the RAR install? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.13 Lucky Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo,

Re: NSF?

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Greg, GS What is the interface that is accessible with Cntrl+Alt+Shft+T from the GS main window? GS see http://www.ade4ebiz.net/tb/TB_Cntrl_Sft_Alt_T.html You are very attentive nobody discovered that feature ;) GS It can't be the new sorting office because I enabled I selected debub

Re: AV with Ctrl+Alt+Shift+T

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Ian, IAW Can anyone else confirm this? Also, what is this Settings dialog? Already fixed :) -- 9Val Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Serious issue with beta/8 and a bug on beta/7

2004-08-30 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello ppl, Two things using beta 8 1. I can't send email with attachment, every time I tried to do that I got a popup Message from , subject , is not properly addressed (see attachment) 2. I got some empty mails. Null context, not even headers! I examine the log from one of them and here you

Re: Vitual folders disappear with IMAP

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Peter, PF IMAP account: PF1 - Make Virtual folder under an IMAP folder, set to find something PFin the IMAP folder PF2 - Go to Account Manage IMAP folders. Click Close. PF= The virtual folder disappears! It is known issue since first IMAP implementation. Any

Re: Beta8 NFS: Test filtering selected messages doesn't?

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello MAU, M I'm testing a filter by selecting 2 messages in my Inbox. As you can see M in Test_filter1.png, if I do a Test filters only one of the messages M seems to be filtered. I don't know which because _nothing_ is written to M the log. M However, if I do an actual Folder/Re-filter, the

Re: Vitual folders disappear with IMAP

2004-08-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
9Val, On 30-08-2004 10:18, you [9] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 9 It is known issue since first IMAP implementation. Any non-IMAP 9 folder is removed from tree after managment of IMAP folders. OK. Time frame for a fix? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author

Re[2]: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, August 30, 2004, Carsten Knobloch wrote: Me too! That's all an absolute scream! :-/ The whole preferences are full of errors and grafic glitches. I see no problems here, what You think? Any screenshots? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz

Re: IMAP folder disappeared

2004-08-30 Thread Matt Thoene
On Monday, August 30, 2004 @ 11:38:30 AM [-0700], Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: Thanks Raymund...did try this but my mystery folder is not showing there either. I tried to just create the folder again from the management center but it gave me an error about how some IMAP servers don't allow

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Andreas, AS Anyone else? Confirmed for all who doesn't use mail ticker -- 9Val Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Icon for folder selection in create filter dialog is shifted

2004-08-30 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi TBBeta! As the subject already said. The icon seems to search something deep in the button :-) -- That's it, Raymund The Bat! 3.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Tim, TC This totally screwed up my whole program I have half Icons, TC and now I cant get back to the previous Beta. Don't use custom glyphs.bmp. Just rename it to something like glyphs.bmp.old and try again -- 9Val

Re: NFS(Beta/8): New important bug: Lost 6 filters while making changes

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello MAU, M Although I have not been able M to determine exactly when it happens, it certainly does during M manipulation/editing of filters. What about new beta? -- 9Val Current beta is

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hello Marek! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 21:32) you meant: I see no problems here, what You think? Any screenshots? http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault1.png http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault2.png http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault3.png

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Monday, August 30, 2004, 22:34, Peter Fjelsten wrote: Then please release a 2.x version with working IMAP. I don't need the NFS but I believe I have paid for (working) IMAP! And wasn't full UTF-support promised for 2.xx, too? ;( -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 21:41, Carsten Knobloch wrote: http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault1.png Wait a second, why do you have tabs when I don't? My preference dialog looks just like it always has (see attachment). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! 3.0 Beta/1 on

Re: beta/8

2004-08-30 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi TBBeta, Can someone send me beta/8. I've lost mine it's not available @ RIT Labs. Thank you. It must be available under the URL that I've announced in TBBETA, isn't it? I hope so, I sent it to the list address so... -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hello Maxim! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 21:56) you dropped the lines: Buy paying for 3.0 the users get the whole bunch of new things that will be appear in The Bat! 3.xx in future. Mhhh, where is the whole bunch of new things from v1 to V2? I can't believe it :( -- Adios, Carsten

Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Allie Martin
Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: I'm sorry, but I'm finding this hard to swallow. This same message was relayed when tb! 2.0 was released, particularly with regards to IMAP support. Don't get me wrong, I know the support is there, but one only needs to scan the archives to see that most IMAP

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 4:28 PM, you wrote: MP If anything this should be version 2.2, not a leap towards MP 3.0. I feel taken advantage of having to pay for bugs to be fixed in MP 2.x that still haven't been fixed just for the NFS and a new and buggy MP GUI. Registered 2.x

New Fashion (was: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1)

2004-08-30 Thread Torsten Veller
* Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, August 30, 2004, 21:47:50, you wrote: Beta 1 of TB! 3.0? Makes me wonder if every time Ritlabs add new icons a new version is announced. But I like the new look :-) Thank you! Amongst all the improvements the most visually outstanding is the

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hey Marcus! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 22:46) you commented: Wait a second, why do you have tabs when I don't? My preference dialog looks just like it always has (see attachment). Thats another feature from the whole bunch of new things. *scnr* -- Adios, Carsten www.batworld.de

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi TBBeta, Wait a second, why do you have tabs when I don't? My preference dialog looks just like it always has (see attachment). Me, too. And there was that weird mail of 9Val saying that the error is confirmed for all who do *not* use Mailticker. -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0

Re: beta/8

2004-08-30 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 22:38, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Can someone send me beta/8. I've lost mine it's not available @ RIT Labs. Thank you. It must be available under the URL that I've announced in TBBETA, isn't it? It is. In case Jan has lost the messages:

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Daniel, On 30-08-2004 22:34, you [DF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DF IIRC, TB! 3.0 doesn't have many new features which weren't DF supposed/promised to be included in 2.x or even 1.x. I paid for 2.x DF and I probably won't pay for 3.x after such a short time again. Seconded! -- greeting

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Maxim, You are right that we've didn't completely fix IMAP up to date, but you see that IMAP is recovering, it is getting better and better, we aren't stopping it. There is a steady progress on IMAP field in the last few months. We are really going to make it perfect. I have been silent,

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marcus! On Monday, August 30, 2004 at 10:46:29 PM you wrote: Wait a second, why do you have tabs when I don't? Interesting question, yes, why. What drives me crazy is that sometimes TB changes my kezboard lazout from German to US. I have to close TB and reopen it. Just hit me with this

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hello Carsten! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 22:46) you wrote: Mhhh, where is the whole bunch of new things from v1 to V2? EDIT: Why I must pay for things in the future? I pay for things i getting yet... -- Bye Bye, Carsten www.batworld.de www.batboard.de

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie, On 30-08-2004 22:42, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM - the server side outbox remains a problem to work with. I had almost forgot. Not to have this working for a release series that claims IMAP functionality is ridiculous! I agree with everything you've written. Ritlabs had

Re[5]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hello Maxim, Monday, August 30, 2004, 4:27:05 PM, you wrote: You are right that we've didn't completely fix IMAP up to date, but you see that IMAP is recovering, it is getting better and better, we aren't stopping it. There is a steady progress on IMAP field in the last few months. We are

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Tim Casten
Hello Paul, On Monday, August 30, 2004 at 1:47:22 PM you wrote: I guess it wasn't lucky :) Sure it was lucky for them, we tested, we found, they not fix, and we get stuck with the bill in order to continue playing. :( -- Tim Casten,ZDC National Air Traffic Controllers Association

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allie Martin - On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, at 15:42:41 [GMT -0500 (CDT)] (which was 1:42 PM where I live) you wrote: I'd be really upset for users if the next official release were a v3, with the last v2 released being left so buggy in fundamental ways

v3 beta/1: Address Picker address transfer icons all wrong

2004-08-30 Thread Allie Martin
Hi all, Take a look at this address picker. It's pretty clear those address transfer icons that should be little single arrows and double arrows are all wrong. :) http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/addresspicker.png -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] · My PGP-Keys:

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Alain de Gevigney
Hello Scott, On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 at 16:55:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 23:55 where I live) you wrote: SG Hello Maxim, SG Monday, August 30, 2004, 2:56:45 PM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work. If we SG Unlike others on this list, I will probably pay for the

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread BWMarcotte
I bought The Bat! for: - it's focus on text based messages - it's ability to handle a large number of messages (100,000+) - it's speed when handling large numbers of messages My primary desires for a mail client are: - stability - speed - text interface Seconarily I want: -

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Keith Russell
MANY others have posted their thoughts, most of which I agree with. To be specific: Maxim Masiutin wrote: - completely new filtering system, easier to understand and better to manage; Maybe, but I haven't dared to use it, reading of its many problems--especially with IMAP. Is it fixed in 3.0? I'll

Ritlabs must be getting lonely

2004-08-30 Thread Michael L. Wilson
Hi, Every couple of years, Ritlabs does this: They nuke everybody's registration and claim a new version. The result is hundreds of emails within an hour or so. This is what I have learned: 1. Ritlabs communication does not exist. They do not tell anyone anything. They do not publish plans,

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Ouwehand, [PO] wrote: AM At least leave a version 2 that will not drive the IMAP user crazy AM while trying to simply read their mail. Allie, I do appreciate the time and effort you and other early adaptors spent on V2.yy.zz IMAP. Sure, but to be truthful, my early use of TB! IMAP was

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Maxim, Hello Andreas, Monday, August 30, 2004, 22:02:01, you wrote: Reminds me of Mozilla and Thunderbird, though. I think the icons are to big. The new icons have to be bigger. The old size did exist from 1998, while the resolution of monitors have increased. You will be able to use

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Gary
Hello Ian, Monday, August 30, 2004, 10:18:23 PM, you wrote: A cynic might conclude that this is just a means of charging people for an upgrade. Only a fool believes that software development costs nothing, and I am sure that The Bat! users would be more than willing to pay for a genuine

Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 2:56:45 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Buy paying for 3.0 the users get the whole bunch of new things that will be appear in The Bat! 3.xx in future. I'm not a beta tester, but I've very much enjoyed reading this list. I've come to look forward to the daily shenanigans

Re: v3 beta/1: Address Picker address transfer icons all wrong

2004-08-30 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Peter, AM http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/addresspicker.png They have been reported to be wrong in 2.13b7/8. Yet another reason not to release a V3. And the interesting thing is the bug ticket said it was fixed IN beta 8. -- Jonathan Angliss

Re: Ritlabs must be getting lonely

2004-08-30 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Michael, Hi, Every couple of years, Ritlabs does this: They nuke everybody's registration and claim a new version. The result is hundreds of emails within an hour or so. This is what I have learned: I second what you wrote. -- Jonathan Angliss

Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Jody Watts
E-Mail Message ~~ From: Maxim Masiutin Date: Monday, August 30, 2004 at 4:34 PM Subject: Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1 _ _\/_ o/\o MM Hello Dirk, MM Monday, August 30, 2004, 0:23:41, you wrote: - A buggy IMAP

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Andreas! On Monday, August 30, 2004 at 11:51:12 PM you wrote: Never tried it but I don't think the OFS was so bad. Many folks asked for a revamped Sorting Office. Does IMAP now reliably work with the Bat? I have no idea, since I use Mozilla for that, but judging from the list members'