Voyager away from home

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello, I have got Voyager installed and working just fine with a restore of my ordinary TB! back up so all the settings are just how I want them. I am now going to show my ignorance! When I go back to the UK for 2 weeks at Christmas and take my USB stick with Voyager on it, is there anything spec

SpamPal and Voyager

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello, Is it possible to have SpamPal working on the USB stick with Voyager or is it a no no as settings are stored in the Registry? -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) with SpamPal & POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outp

Re: For JAWS users: Voyager and logon screen

2005-11-28 Thread Krister Ekstrom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mary! Excuse me Richard and Mary, but were you suggesting that i accidentally managed to write the entire message on the wrong side of the sig delimiter? What more was wrong? Please tell me either privately or on list so i have a chance to correc

Re[2]: Voyager EXE update

2005-11-28 Thread Vili
Hello Richard, CT>> However, as I set out in my previous postings, whatever order number CT>> I put into the "order" box, clicking the fetch button generates a CT>> "this file does not have an association... etc" message. > Bad luck. I hope you get it sorted soon and it's really very strange. I >

Re: For JAWS users: Voyager and logon screen

2005-11-28 Thread Krister Ekstrom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Vili! On 27 Nov 2005 14:52:33 (my local time 20:52:14), you typed: V> Honestly, I dont know what is the good solution here... I mean if the V> password should be speak out loud or not... I think, it should not. And i as a blind user wholehe

Re: For JAWS users: Voyager and logon screen

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Krister, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 you wrote in KE> Excuse me Richard and Mary, but were you suggesting that i KE> accidentally managed to write the entire message on the wrong side of KE> the sig delimiter? That's pretty much about the sum of it :-) It was only the first two messages though an

Re[2]: For JAWS users: Voyager and logon screen

2005-11-28 Thread Vili
Hello Krister, V>> And in JAWS v5.1 I dont hear the password, just "star, star," etc. In V>> JAWS 6.2 Claude hears it... I dont know, what you should do... > If there's a difference between Jfw versions, then it's Jaws's fault > and not the bat!'s. One thing that would be good to know then is if

"Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Beta-Bats, All of a sudden (without leaving The Bat!) my unread messages stay "unread" whereas they turned into "read" after a few seconds of reading. The only way to make them have the read-status is using Ctrl + M. Perhaps I am confused, but I don't even find the place where I can change

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mark, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:08:34 +0100GMT (28-11-2005, 11:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MP> Perhaps I am confused, but I don't even find the place where I can change the MP> setting (after how many seconds of "reading" the status canges to "read"). Account -> Properties -> Optio

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Zeynel Öztürk
Hello Mark, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 at 11:08:34 +0100, (which is 28.11.2005 at 12:08:34 +2000 where I live), you wrote: > All of a sudden (without leaving The Bat!) my unread messages stay "unread" > whereas they turned into "read" after a few seconds of reading. Maybe it's related to ? -- Best r

Re: SpamPal and Voyager

2005-11-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:50:46 +0100GMT (28-11-2005, 9:50 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RW> Is it possible to have SpamPal working on the USB stick with Voyager or RW> is it a no no as settings are stored in the Registry? When spampal needs to be installed with settings in the re

Re: SpamPal and Voyager

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 you wrote in RO> When spampal needs to be installed with settings in the registry it's RO> no good idea to use it with Voyager. That's kind of what I thought. I won't be using Voyager more than a couple of times a year anyway when I do go back to the UK so spam

Re: Voyager away from home

2005-11-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:47:02 +0100GMT (28-11-2005, 9:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RW> I am now going to show my ignorance! Don't worry, happens to all of us. RW> When I go back to the UK for 2 weeks at Christmas and take my USB RW> stick with Voyager on it, is there anythi

Re: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting

2005-11-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:53:12 +0100GMT (28-11-2005, 8:53 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RW> I think you misunderstand what I wrote in my original post. Reply to a RW> message and put it in the Outbox. It doesn't matter whether you save as RW> draft or just save it. I think it's j

Re: Voyager away from home

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 you wrote in RO> Nothing special, just make sure that Voyager doesn't think it needs to RO> use a dial-up connection: RO> Options -> Network & Admin -> 'Network' tab -> LAN or manual connection Already set as that. RO> I don't know your connection type nor t

Re[2]: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting

2005-11-28 Thread Vili
Hello Roelof, RW>> I think you misunderstand what I wrote in my original post. Reply to a RW>> message and put it in the Outbox. It doesn't matter whether you save as RW>> draft or just save it. > I think it's just a bit too much to ask from TB to keep the link > between the saved message/draft an

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Curtis
Mark Partous wrote: > Should I see a doctor? Allie? :-) I don't think so. TB! has been known to make some feel that they need to do this, myself included. ;) Just don't look directly at it and don't give into your fears. You'll be OK. -- -= Curtis =- PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name -=-

Re: Messages don't get marked as read

2005-11-28 Thread Curtis
Ian A.White wrote: > All of a sudden, messages no longer get marked as read when I move to > them. Checking Account|Properties|Options sees the option to mark > messages as read after a number of seconds no longer checked, and the > option to mark the message as read after being opened in a separa

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Roelof, Monday, November 28, 2005, 11:17:37 AM, you wrote: MP>> Perhaps I am confused, but I don't even find the place where I can change the MP>> setting (after how many seconds of "reading" the status canges to "read"). RO> Account -> Properties -> Options -> Mark messages as read

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Zeynel, Monday, November 28, 2005, 11:19:44 AM, you wrote: ZÖ> Maybe it's related to ? I will have to check the archives, because I already deleted that message... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.63.05 (Beta) MyMacros 1.11 zOmbie's Macros Ve

Accidentally misplaced sig delimiter [was Re: For JAWS users: Voyager and logon screen]

2005-11-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Krister! On Monday, November 28, 2005, 3:06 AM, you wrote: > Excuse me Richard and Mary, but were you suggesting that i > accidentally managed to write the entire message on the wrong side > of the sig delimiter? What more was wrong? Please tell me either > privately or on list so i have a

Re: Messages don't get marked as read

2005-11-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian, Mark, and Curtis! On Monday, November 28, 2005, 4:57 AM, Ian wrote: C>> It would seem that opening the account options triggers the C>> problem. > I did restart the computer (not just The Bat!) but it would not > correct itself. I did some more fiddling (my second message) and it > ap

Re: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 you wrote in RO> When you save it to the outbox, the original is marked, that's the RO> best moment I guess. Fairynuff RO> When you want that to happen on sending, TB needs to search your RO> message base for the message you replied to and that'll take more RO

Re: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Vili, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 you wrote in V> If someone has problem with it, he/she can still use the Specials, V> Mark mail, and take the checkbox out from the Replied item I V> think. That sounds a good solution on paper - if only I knew exactly what you mean! ;-) If you've

Re: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting

2005-11-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Richard! On Monday, November 28, 2005, 5:28 AM, you wrote: RO>> especially for those with tens or hundreds of thousands messages. > Ah, in that case I hastily withdraw my suggestion for fear of > further angering all those with already slow TB! performance! ;-) And I follow you by withdra

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Zeynel Öztürk
Hello Mark, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 at 11:53:50 +0100, (which is 28.11.2005 at 12:53:50 +2000 where I live), you wrote: > I will have to check the archives, because I already deleted that message... Here is the message: ,- [ ] | https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5397 | | When you ac

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Zeynel! On Monday, November 28, 2005, 5:37 AM, you wrote: >> I will have to check the archives, because I already deleted that message... > Here is the message: > ,- [ ] > | https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5397 > | > | When you access the properties of an account the set

Latest beta messes up Japanese folder name in IMAP account

2005-11-28 Thread Wataru Tenga
Hello, tbbeta, The latest beta changes a Japanese-language IMAP folder name, by adding extraneous characters at the end. Trying to fix it produces an error. Here are screen shots of the affected folder name, in Thunderbird and in The Bat. --  From: Wataru Tenga   $BE7$B2O$B!!$B9R Using

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Partous
Hello, Citing myself once more: MP> surching For those who didn't know: "surching" is the less known form of "searching" :-) -- Best wishes, Mark __ Message made with The Bat, 3.63.05 (Beta) started replying on maandag 28 nov

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mark! On Monday, November 28, 2005, 6:14 AM, you wrote: MP>> surching > For those who didn't know: "surching" is the less known form of "searching" > :-) Yes, the lurch surch! lol -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 __

Re: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Mary, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 you wrote in >> Ah, in that case I hastily withdraw my suggestion for fear of >> further angering all those with already slow TB! performance! ;-) MB> And I follow you by withdrawing my concurrence! ;) We both like the peaceful existence, not having irate TB! us

Re: Icon still shows you've replied after deleting

2005-11-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Richard! On Monday, November 28, 2005, 6:39 AM, you wrote: >>> Ah, in that case I hastily withdraw my suggestion for fear of >>> further angering all those with already slow TB! performance! ;-) MB>> And I follow you by withdrawing my concurrence! ;) > We both like the peaceful existence,

Re: "Read" messages stay "unread"

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Ian, Monday, November 28, 2005, 11:55:45 AM, you wrote: IAW> Well, this is weird. The exact thing happened to me, and in my haste I IAW> started another thread with a somewhat similar subject. It's spooky IAW> that it happens to two people at around the same time! Conspiracy IAW> theorists

Re: Voyager away from home

2005-11-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, November 28, 2005, 8:47:02 AM, Richard Wakeford wrote: > I am now going to show my ignorance! When I go back to the UK for 2 > weeks at Christmas and take my USB stick with Voyager on it, is there > anything specific that I have to do when going on line from another ADSL > link (BT Inte

Re: Voyager away from home

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Julian, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 you wrote in JBL> But you might be lucky and Wanadoo use SMTP Authorisation so JBL> you can post via their mail servers even when connected to another JBL> ISP's network. Hopefully that version should work. If not then I'll go the Webmail route thanks. -- Reg

Re: For JAWS users: Voyager and logon screen

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Krister, On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:16:59 +0100 GMT (28/11/2005, 01:16 +0700 GMT), Krister Ekstrom wrote: TF>> Welcome back! Long time no hear. KE> It's been a while, hasn't it.:-) Yes, indeed. :-) TF>> True, but what are you using these days? Not JAWS any more? KE> Nope, at least not as ax

Re: Messages don't get marked as read

2005-11-28 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Ian, Monday, November 28, 2005, 4:52:48 AM, you wrote: IAW> I went to Accounts|Properties|Transport and OK. Then back to IAW> Accounts|Properties|Options and the settings were as I wanted them. IAW> That is the option to mark as read after a number of seconds was IAW> checked, and the option

Re: History of searches, shouldn't it be global?

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:06:54 -0600 GMT (28/11/2005, 05:06 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: >> Separation of search history was done for security purposes - i.e. >> when serveral users have their accounts in a single copy of TB!, it >> may undesirable that one user knew about searc

Re: Latest beta messes up Japanese folder name in IMAP account

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Wataru, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:52:43 +0900 GMT (28/11/2005, 18:52 +0700 GMT), Wataru Tenga wrote: WT> The latest beta changes a Japanese-language IMAP folder name, by WT> adding extraneous characters at the end. Trying to fix it produces an error. WT> Here are screen shots of the affected

Re: Body trunkated by two characters if last line has no hard paragraph break

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Hendrik, On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:26:45 +1100 GMT (28/11/2005, 05:26 +0700 GMT), Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: HO> In eMails where the last line in source code is not terminated by an HO> hard paragraph break the two last letters are not displayed. HO> Please find enclosed an example. Confirmed.

3.63.05 and IMAP

2005-11-28 Thread Matt Thoene
With the latest beta, Filtering is again quirky. Messages are filtered but "ghosts" of the messages remain in my main Inbox. Just for fun I try re-filtering and the summary does show them being re-filtered. For whatever reason, the "ghosts" remain. I reverted back to 3.62.13 and it's working fine a

Re: Cannot send from mail created from email link.

2005-11-28 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello TBBETA, If I click on an embedded 'mail to' link in a message I get strange behavior. First I do not get the 'from' address filled in as I would if I clicked to reply to the message that has the link or if I started a new message from that folder. Secondly the "send the message" and "Put mes

Re: Cannot send from mail created from email link.

2005-11-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MikeD (2) & everyone else, on 28-Nov-2005 at 17:20 you (MikeD (2)) wrote: > If I click on an embedded 'mail to' link in a message I get strange > behavior. First I do not get the 'from' address filled in as I would if I > clicked to reply to the message that has the link or if I started a n

Re[2]: Need the foot template we can see in most messages on this list...

2005-11-28 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Claude, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 5:35:15 AM, Claude wrotened: >>> Could someone tell me where could I find the template displaying : >>> "The Bat! version xxx, running on windows build yyy service pack >>> zzz"... DZ>> For example: DZ>> The Bat! %THEBATVERSION DZ>> %WINDOWSPLATFORMNA

Re: Cannot send from mail created from email link.

2005-11-28 Thread Robert D.
Recently, MikeD (2) squawked: > If I click on an embedded 'mail to' link in a message I get strange > behavior. Also can not confirm it here. Although, I did not actually send the email from the mailto: link. It worked fine and buttons were normal. -- Robert D. _ The

Re: Body trunkated by two characters if last line has no hard paragraph break

2005-11-28 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
"Thomas Fernandez" wrote on 29/11/2005 at 00:56:58 +1100 subject "Body trunkated by two characters if last line has no hard paragraph break" : HO>> In eMails where the last line in source code is not terminated by an HO>> hard paragraph break the two last letters are not displayed. HO>> Please

Re[2]: Cannot send from mail created from email link.

2005-11-28 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Alexander, Monday, November 28, 2005, 11:28:28 AM, you wrote: ASK> Sorry Mike, I can not confirm any of the above (tried with the mailto link ASK> in your signature, a test message should arrive any minute). Do you have a ASK> screwed up folder template in place maybe? Well I thought about

Re: History of searches, shouldn't it be global?

2005-11-28 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, > Separation of search history was done for security purposes - i.e. when > serveral > users have their accounts in a single copy of TB!, it may undesirable that > one user knew about searches of other users. Thanks for your reply. As Thomas Fernandez says in this same thread, I un

Re: History of searches, shouldn't it be global?

2005-11-28 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, > I agree. I understand the logic behind it, but I don't think the > majority of TB-installations are multi-user. That's just a wild guess, > but even if several users use the same computer and the same email > program, that's likely to be a family and this security feature takes > a

Re: Cannot send from mail created from email link.

2005-11-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MikeD (2) & everyone else, on 28-Nov-2005 at 18:17 you (MikeD (2)) wrote: ASK>> Sorry Mike, I can not confirm any of the above (tried with the mailto link ASK>> in your signature, a test message should arrive any minute). Do you have a ASK>> screwed up folder template in place maybe? > Wel

Re: Message sent - or not?

2005-11-28 Thread MAU
Hello Martin, > My question now: Is this message sent or not? I found it in the > folder of Sent Messages - but as far as I understand the error > messege form the server it isn't... Yes, it was sent. Just see the last 3 SEND lines of your log. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - S

Re[2]: Cannot send from mail created from email link.

2005-11-28 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Alexander, Monday, November 28, 2005, 12:52:11 PM, you wrote: ASK> When I think about it, it could be related to this bug: ASK> I'll check that out in a bit (probably tomorrow now) ... ASK> The bug is about the folder templates NOT working when

Re: History of searches, shouldn't it be global?

2005-11-28 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello MAU, M> A solution to keep everybody happy, as usual, would be to make it M> optional: global or per account. Do you think this would be difficult to M> implement? Well, the major difficulty is - I hate introducing any new options because TB! is already overloaded with them. People get scar

Re: Problem importing from outlook to TB(V)

2005-11-28 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Claude, CR>> and see what happened to my contacts... I saw that some of them have CR>> no problem, the memo field was filled correctly, but some of CR>> them have in the memo field, instead of the CR>> corresponding note field content present in outlook, the word "binary" and nothing CR>>

Re: Latest beta messes up Japanese folder name in IMAP account

2005-11-28 Thread Wataru Tenga
Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... >WT> Here are screen shots of the affected folder name, in Thunderbird and >WT> in The Bat. > >I'm not sure what I'm seeing, because the screenshots show different >parts of the account tree. That's because the IMAP folder order is different in Thun

Re: History of searches, shouldn't it be global?

2005-11-28 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, M>> A solution to keep everybody happy, as usual, would be to make it M>> optional: global or per account. Do you think this would be difficult to M>> implement? > > Well, the major difficulty is - I hate introducing any new options because TB! > is already overloaded with them. Peop

Re: Body trunkated by two characters if last line has no hard paragraph break

2005-11-28 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
"Hendrik Oesterlin" wrote on 29/11/2005 at 04:06:27 +1100 subject "Body trunkated by two characters if last line has no hard paragraph break" : > "Thomas Fernandez" wrote on 29/11/2005 at 00:56:58 +1100 > subject "Body trunkated by two characters if last line has no hard paragraph > break" :

Re: Message sent - or not?

2005-11-28 Thread Peter Palmreuther
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 07:56:19PM +0100, Martin Schoch wrote: > 28.11.2005, 19:19:14: SEND - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue > 28.11.2005, 19:19:15: SEND - connected to SMTP server > 28.11.2005, 19:19:15: SEND - authenticating (plain)... > 28.11.2005, 19:19:15: SEND - Server re