Re: I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME

2005-12-16 Thread Stuart Hemming
It is a much better reason to have a Drafts folder :) I can see WHY would this be beneficial, now. fxChoirs of heavenly voices sing 'hallelujah'/fx -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.63.06 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3

Re: I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME

2005-12-16 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 16, 2005, 3:01 AM, you wrote: [Vili]: It is a much better reason to have a Drafts folder :) I can see WHY would this be beneficial, now. [Stuart H.]: fxChoirs of heavenly voices sing 'hallelujah'/fx [Mary B.]: Amen and *amen*!! :) :cloud9: -- Best regards,

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-16 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roger! On Friday, December 16, 2005, 1:32 AM, you wrote: ST I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I ST don't understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work ST for you? MP I haven't followed the discussion at all (and don't use the MP latest beta yet), but

Re: X-Rogue is broken; Roguemoticons not displayed

2005-12-16 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Mary, Thursday, December 15, 2005 you let us know -possibly edited- : Thanks for putting that information on BT at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5462 Hope this issue and all those concerning headers will be fixed ASAP. This may be related to the missing template macros as

Re: X-Rogue is broken; Roguemoticons not displayed

2005-12-16 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Charlene! On Friday, December 16, 2005, 5:33 AM, you wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5462 Hope this issue and all those concerning headers will be fixed ASAP. Stefan reports on that page that this issue is fixed in v. 3.63.13. This may be related to the missing template

[OT] To whomever posts notes in BT on behalf of others

2005-12-16 Thread MAU
Hello all, Someone from this list is and has been adding notes on behalf of others, actually copy/pasting messages from this list, to: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 While the posting and the notes are appreciated because they are in support of the wish, I think that whomever is

Friday-evening version

2005-12-16 Thread Henk M . de Bruijn
Timestamp: Friday, December 16, 2005 local time: 7:16:00 PM Hello TBBETA, Am I the only one expecting. ;-) -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System™ version 3.63.12 (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at:

Re: Friday-evening version

2005-12-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 12:17:17 PM, Henk M.de Bruijn wrote: Am I the only one expecting. ;-) No. I think everyone has been looking and looking and waiting, and trying to decide to post as you finally did the question -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211

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2005-12-16 Thread 9Val
Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.13 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005455) Special characters were not QP-encoded in headers [-] (#0005446) Fields being edited weren't properly updated in the header editor [-]

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2005-12-16 Thread Peter Ouwehand
Hello Charlene Ferrara, on Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:46:14 +0100 (2005-12-16 23:46:14 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [CF] wrote (at least in part): CF Should have earned a more informative subject line... *scnr* Could it be for the same reason that, using this

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2005-12-16 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hello all, Peter wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could it be for the same reason that, using this version, whatever I type as subject, TB insists to send the email with an empty subject header line ... ??? Right now the subject line is properly filled, let's see how this one works. BTW: your

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2005-12-16 Thread Peter Ouwehand
Hello 9Val, on Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:39:43 +0200 (2005-12-16 23:39:43 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [] wrote (at least in part): 9 [-] (#0005462) Custom header fields were not stored into outgoing 9messages Not fixed. Others: - Using the

Missing subject header (was ... blank!)

2005-12-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Peter, @17-Dec-2005, 00:03 +0100 (16-Dec 23:03 here) Peter Ouwehand [PO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Charlene: CF Should have earned a more informative subject line... *scnr* PO Could it be for the same reason that, using this version, whatever I PO type as subject, TB insists to send

Re: (no subject)

2005-12-16 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Peter Ouwehand, Saturday, December 17, 2005 you let us know -possibly edited- : Could it be for the same reason that, using this version, whatever I type as subject, TB insists to send the email with an empty subject header line ... ??? Confirmed and switched back to previous beta. --

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2005-12-16 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, CF Should have earned a more informative subject line... *scnr* Could it be for the same reason that, using this version, whatever I type as subject, TB insists to send the email with an empty subject header line ... ??? And it seems to have problems with In-Reply-To: and

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2005-12-16 Thread Peter Ouwehand
Hello Charlene Ferrara, on Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:17:31 +0100 (2005-12-17 00:17:31 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [CF] wrote (at least in part): CF BTW: your rogue still won't show up. Cause it ain't fixed, IMHO. CF I put my handle manually in. I've searched for

3.63.13 is totally UNUSABLE for me

2005-12-16 Thread MAU
Hello all, Back all the way to 3.62.14 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Winamp Playing: Brother Jay - Walk in the Spirit (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay)

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2005-12-16 Thread Sean Rima
Hello 9Val, Friday, December 16, 2005, 10:39:43 PM, you wrote: Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.13 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: Still refuses to use SMIME certs that work with previous versions of TB! Sean --

Re: Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis
Hi Paul, You wrote: M Again fully agree. Except that even if they implement this nonsense they M will not loose me as a user. With or without this 'nonsense' implemented M there is nothing out there that can replace TB. So True.. Well, here I am, using Mulberry while

Re: (no subject)

2005-12-16 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Sean, Friday, December 16, 2005, 11:32:07 PM, you wrote: Hello 9Val, Friday, December 16, 2005, 10:39:43 PM, you wrote: Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.13 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: Still refuses to use SMIME certs

Re: Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-16 Thread Randy
Hello. Here's what Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Friday, December 16, 2005 18:33 -0500 wrote: Well, here I am, using Mulberry while feeling the same way some time ago. I'm back to Mulberry too and I doubt I'll be returning to the Bat!. Although it has some things I really like (such

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis
Hi MAU, You wrote: As a well-informed adult, shouldn't you think about all users and not just of yourself? IMO, on a slightly different slant, it's not good form to remove features that already exist, if this is what you're implying. Add the drafts folder, but DO NOT remove the

Re: Re[2]: IMAP - 3.63.12 Still not sowing correct number of messages

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis
Hi Stuart, You wrote: Of course if all the IMAP testers do this, then how will we know when it actually gets fixed. ;) Well, I'm willing to give it a go if there's a release which is *explicitly* stated to address this crippling problem. I'm not about to try any recent betas for that

Re: Lost IMAP folders with new IMAP mail provider

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis
Hi Matt, You wrote: Suddenly, 25+ local folders disappeared along with the email in them. Not good. Were those really local folders or IMAP folders? Local folders cannot be created in a TB! IMAP account. You have to use folders within a POP account or common folders for them to be

Re: (no subject)

2005-12-16 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, CF Should have earned a more informative subject line... *scnr* Could it be for the same reason that, using this version, whatever I type as subject, TB insists to send the email with an empty subject header line ... ??? And it seems to have problems with In-Reply-To: and

Re[4]: IMAP - 3.63.12 Still not sowing correct number of messages

2005-12-16 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Curtis, Friday, December 16, 2005, 5:58:42 PM, you wrote: C Well, I'm willing to give it a go if there's a release which is C *explicitly* stated to address this crippling problem. I'm not about to C try any recent betas for that reason. I hear ya, but its very frustrating. -- Stuart

Re: Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis
Hi Randy, You wrote: Maybe I'll give it a shot again at next release. But this on-going never-actually-fix-anything beta cycle is tiring. Well, if you changed that to on-going-never-actually-fixing-anything-IMAP beta cycles, then I'd agree. They are clearly fixing many other issues.

Re: Re[4]: IMAP - 3.63.12 Still not sowing correct number of messages

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis
Hi Stuart, You wrote: I hear ya, but its very frustrating. I know, but if you ask me, bandwidth eating issues shouldn't really be up for beta testing. That's more an alpha... in house testing issue, isn't it. Afterall, we're talking about you losing access to your account??? I

Re: 3.63.13 is totally UNUSABLE for me

2005-12-16 Thread steverio
Hello MAU... On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:29:57 +0100, you wrote: Hello all, Back all the way to 3.62.14 Me too! Seems like v3.62.14 is a reliable vintage for me. I've reverted back to it with every beta since. Now I wish there was a TBV version that matched v3.62.14! -- steverio TB!v3.62.14

Re: IMAP - 3.63.12 Still not sowing correct number of messages

2005-12-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 6:14:52 PM, Curtis wrote: I know, but if you ask me, bandwidth eating issues shouldn't really be up for beta testing. what bandwidth eating issues? I've used 38.2 mb so far this month. I've got 40+ folders, enough traffic just to qualify as busy from TBOT and

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 5:40:45 PM, Randy wrote: it simply can't beat Mulberry as far as IMAP is concerned. except when you have to look at the screen and read the mail, or want to filter something or use quick templates, or do anything else productive. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S

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2005-12-16 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Friday, December 16, 2005, 4:39 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.63.13 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005455) Special characters were not QP-encoded in headers Not an issue for me, so can't test. [-]

Re: IMAP - 3.63.12 Still not sowing correct number of messages

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis
Dwight A Corrin wrote: what bandwidth eating issues? I've used 38.2 mb so far this month. I've got 40+ folders, enough traffic just to qualify as busy from TBOT and TBBETA, check regularly 4 POP accounts at fastmail and download. Is less than 3 mb a day lots? That's like saying you can't

Re: (no subject)

2005-12-16 Thread steverio
Hello Mary... On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:34:18 -0600, you wrote: Thanks anyway for the hard work, 9Val and team. :) I second that! Not all betas are gleaming like diamonds for everyone. I'm looking forward to see some more TB gems! :) -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1

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2005-12-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 4:39:43 PM, 9Val wrote: [-] (#0005456) %CURSOR=BODY macro was not functional Well, there is a little good news. This seems to actually be fixed. going back to .08 now. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at

broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]

2005-12-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 8:09:34 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: [-] (#0005456) %CURSOR=BODY macro was not functional Well, there is a little good news. This seems to actually be fixed. going back to .08 now. threading is also obviously broken, because I replied to 9val's announcement, and

Editor's new Autocomplete list box suggests addresses from Certificate databases

2005-12-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, when I enter text in To editor header, Autocomplete list box suggests addresses from Certificate databases. If somebody likes this, there should be checkbox in Preferences dialog, section System | Autocomplete, but I do not like this and want to have this disabled as default. Bugtraq:

Error Cannot focus disabled or invisible window when is editor closed with Autocomplete list box displayed

2005-12-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, I have opened editor, typed some chars into header and before I saved this message, Autocomplete list box appeared - editor is closed and error Cannot focus disabled or invisible window appears. Bugtraq: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5471 -- Thanks and Bye,

Re: broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]

2005-12-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, December 16, 2005, 8:20:27 PM, Peter Ouwehand wrote: V3.63.13 is not fit for beta testing. fully concur. used it only long enough to confirm that they did fix the %cursor problem -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at

Re: broken threading [was Re: (no subject)]

2005-12-16 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dwight! On Friday, December 16, 2005, 9:03 PM, you wrote: V3.63.13 is not fit for beta testing. fully concur. used it only long enough to confirm that they did fix the %cursor problem And they fixed my nickname/address book problem. A feature that I may be the only one here using. But

Re: (no subject)

2005-12-16 Thread Zeynel Öztürk
Hello Peter, On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 at 00:03:15 +0100, (which is 17.12.2005 at 01:03:15 +2000 where I live), you wrote: Could it be for the same reason that, using this version, whatever I type as subject, TB insists to send the email with an empty subject header line ... ??? Yes, the subject