Re[2]: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Bob, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 0:38:00, you wrote: >>I just installed this version - and for the first time, I cannot have >>any mail downloaded from Gmail's IMAP server. Thank you! I have been also able to reproduce this problem. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin

Re[2]: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Volker, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 21:47:08, you wrote: >>> I really do not like this >>The feature itself maybe very useful for serveral people, but not for >>me. The Menu Navigator IMO is not important enough to give it such a >>prominent position in the menu bar. => View|Menu Navigator

Re[2]: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Mse, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 20:35:42, you wrote: >>> The Bat! 4.2.13.2 ALPHA is available at >>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42132.rar >>Is there any possibility to use the menu navigator completely by keyboard? It's a good idea, thank you. What kind of Hotke

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:13:55 -0500, Gleason wrote: >> Nowadays it surely looks like the only people who are still defending >> The Beta! are the alpha-testers who get their upgrades for free. >Depends on where you look. I'm sorry that I forgot to mention the reglular amoats. Arjan -- [I'm sorr

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Gleason
Arjan, > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:57:20 -0500, Vili wrote: >>I think, TB reached a critical step. > It has reached that step 5 (or more) years ago. > Nowadays it surely looks like the only people who are still defending > The Beta! are the alpha-testers who get their upgrades for free. Depends

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:57:20 -0500, Vili wrote: >I think, TB reached a critical step. It has reached that step 5 (or more) years ago. Nowadays it surely looks like the only people who are still defending The Beta! are the alpha-testers who get their upgrades for free. Arjan -- [Non-text ... et

Re: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Bob, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:12:17 PM, you wrote: BR> Hmmm. I didn't find that email address in my exceptions log. Could BR> someone have copied what I sent and inadvertantly copied your email BR> address in the process? It does not appear here in the original email Bob sent ei

Re: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread John Sherman
Hello Bob, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 10:12:17 AM, you wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Hmmm. I didn't find that email address in my exceptions log. Could > someone have copied what I sent and inadvertantly copied your email > address in the process? > Bob Riley > On 11/18/2009 10:54 AM, John Sh

Re: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Everyone, Hmmm. I didn't find that email address in my exceptions log. Could someone have copied what I sent and inadvertantly copied your email address in the process? Bob Riley On 11/18/2009 10:54 AM, John Sherman wrote: Hello Bob, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 3:13:03 PM, Bob Riley w

Re: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread John Sherman
Hello Bob, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 3:13:03 PM, Bob Riley wrote: > Thanks for that tip, Marek. Here are three exceptions which occurred in > the space of five minutes: > > Received: for > Date: 17 Nov 2009 15:29:14 This is a great mystery to me since I am

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, V> I think, TB reached a critical step. It was the writing on the wall quite some time ago, even going back a few years. Nobody listened then. I see no reason why anyone would now. V> We cannot be polite anymore. We have to be straight... Don't bother. I tried that one at a time, too, b

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Vili« · 2009-11-18 · 15:50 h (CET)] >>> THESE ARE CUSTOMERS, not eggheads from this list! >> Thanks for the respect for the people here on the list, who are – >> by the way – mainly paying customers, too. > I meant that simple users, using the computers for everyday > communication,

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Vili« · 2009-11-18 · 15:57 h (CET)] Moin, Vili! >> And of course pay attention to your diction! :-/ > Just one more thing: please watch an episode of Dirty jobs on the > Discovery Channel. That is real life. No, thanks. I have an own real life. > I think, TB reached a critical step

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Vili
> And of course pay attention to your diction! :-/ Just one more thing: please watch an episode of Dirty jobs on the Discovery Channel. That is real life. That is how many people has to work to get a living. I did some of those jobs. I remember. So, I dont keep my mouth shut and be artificially po

Re: New MSI on Ritlabs site

2009-11-18 Thread Vili
>> He could try out the latest beta as well: >> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42131.rar > "beta" or "alpha" ?!? Whatever it is, this is not how the issue should be handled :( -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'U

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Vili
>> THESE ARE CUSTOMERS, not eggheads from this list! > Thanks for the respect for the people here on the list, who are – by > the way – mainly paying customers, too. I meant that simple users, using the computers for everyday communication, word processing, work, etc. Not like us, who know the pro

Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

2009-11-18 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Kertész Vilmos« · 2009-11-18 · 14:14 h (CET)] Moin! > THESE ARE CUSTOMERS, not eggheads from this list! Thanks for the respect for the people here on the list, who are – by the way – mainly paying customers, too. And of course pay attention to your diction! :-/ Cheers! VA - -- Vol

Re: New MSI on Ritlabs site

2009-11-18 Thread Mackley
He wrote: > He could try out the latest beta as well: > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42131.rar "beta" or "alpha" ?!? -- Mackley stuck with 4.2.12 final Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'Using TBBETA' informatio

Re: New MSI on Ritlabs site

2009-11-18 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Alexander, KV>> TB of one of my very important customer, distributor of Total KV>> Commander, notified him about a new version, appeared yesterday on KV>> Ritlabs site, he downloaded, installed and TB dont start up. KV>> Downgraded, does not start. > First of all he ha

4.2 on the website, REMOVE that IMMEDIATELY

2009-11-18 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Maxim, Remove the install files you put there yesterday on your website immediately!!! Second customer wrote, that after TB told them there is a new version available, they upgraded and it does not start after that!!! Shit... -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2

Re: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread Krzysztof Kudłacik
> The Bat! 4.2.13.2 ALPHA is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42132.rar > What's new in 4.2.13.2 since 4.2.13.1: > [+] For S/MIME internal implementation, you can now use Elliptic Curves > Cryptography in addition to RSA. You can choose between algorithms when

Re: New MSI on Ritlabs site

2009-11-18 Thread Alexander Petrari
Hello, Kertész! On Wednesday, November 18th, 2009, at 10:54:19 GMT +01:00 (CET) (at the same time it was 18/11/2009, 11:54:19 my local time), you wrote (at least in part): KV> TB of one of my very important customer, distributor of Total KV> Commander, notified him about a new versi

Re: Menu Navigator and Message / Re-send issue

2009-11-18 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Rick, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 22:43:48, you wrote: >>In the Message menu "resend" is misspelled as "re-send" This will make it >>counterintuitive and nearly impossible for someone to find using the Menu >>Navigator (unless they have the misspelling memorized) >>I think "Re-send" shoul

Re[2]: 4.2.13.2

2009-11-18 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Ian, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 22:21:46, you wrote: >>MM> [+] The Menu Mavigator buttons are now shown in the menu bars >>(EXPERIMENTAL) >>Is this the binoculars at the start of the menu bar? Yes, it is. We will change the binoculars image to a more suitable image, these binoculars

New MSI on Ritlabs site

2009-11-18 Thread Kertész Vilmos
TB of one of my very important customer, distributor of Total Commander, notified him about a new version, appeared yesterday on Ritlabs site, he downloaded, installed and TB dont start up. Downgraded, does not start. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szerviz