Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-25 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi, Saturday, April 22, 2006, 8:34:41 PM, you wrote: >> the digest vector now is {MsgID, From, To, CC, BCC, Date} if the >> message has an MsgId and {From, To, CC, BCC, Date, Subject} if it does not have one. > OK, I feel more comfortable now that I know how the check is made. Am > I correct

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-25 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi, Saturday, April 22, 2006, 7:54:43 PM, you wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5818 > I write it here: is it possible take the message size into account? possible, but fairly useless; the same message can travel different paths... --  regards,  vitalie                    

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-23 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Ian, On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 you wrote in IAW> It is the same and the Condition list box can be shrunk completely. IAW> It is actually possible to shrink the window so much that even the IAW> caption of Condition disappears altogether. Confirmed with XP2 and default theme (or any theme so far

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Paul Meathrel
Hi vitalie, Friday, April 21, 2006, 11:26:14 PM, you wrote: > the digest vector now is {MsgID, From, To, CC, BCC, Date} if the > message has an MsgId and {From, To, CC, BCC, Date, Subject} if it does not > have one. OK, I feel more comfortable now that I know how the check is made. Am I correct

Re[3]: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Vili
Hello Goncalo, > The problem is when the algorithm doesn't work correctly and a > Non-Dup is deleted... The way it is now you blindly trust the > algorithm and don't have any mean to check what was considered a dup. I dont get it... The algorithm seems to be ok, why not trust

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Vili
Hello vitalie, Please dont use HTML, when writing to the list :)) >> Could you provide some information on this feature; how sure can we >> be/ how can we check that non-duplicates are not being deleted by mistake? > prior to this, any message that lacks Message-Id was simply ignored > by the

Re: 3.72.12 Sorting Office resize bug (was: Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available)

2006-04-22 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 5:39 PM, you wrote: > What works here to mess up the General tab: > 1. resize the Sorting Office window to its smallest allowed size > 2. maximize the window > 3. make the Action section as large as possible > 4. resize the Sorting Office window to its size

Re: 3.72.12 Sorting Office resize bug (was: Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available)

2006-04-22 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter! On Saturday, April 22, 2006, 9:13 AM, you wrote: PO>> What works here to mess up the General tab: PO>> 1. resize the Sorting Office window to its smallest allowed size PO>> 2. maximize the window PO>> 3. make the Action section as large as possible PO>> 4. resize the Sorting Office w

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello 9Val, On Friday, April 21, 2006, 10:33:26 PM, among other things, you wrote: 9> Here is a short list of changes: 9> [*] dupe killer: take Subject into account if message doesn't have a 9> MsgID Seems to work well. To my surprise it removed several duplicates from a folder which

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Saturday, April 22, 2006, 8:33 AM, you wrote: > By the way, I have tried normal fonts and large fonts and with both is > it possible to shrink the conditions out completely. I have just done this, and I confirm the bug. I sent a reply to Peter Ouwehand's mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] just

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : PO> I like the suggestion to put dupes in the trash, or some other way PO> to identify dupes and allow the user to make corrections. I would vote for the creation of a new folder for dupes like the "junk mail" folder! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Planned parenthood --- the im

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DAC> On Friday, April 21, 2006, 6:46:00 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: GF Is it possible to put dups in the trash folder? >>> I think this is a pretty good idea just to make you able to undo. >> what is the danger of removing a duplicate of something which you >> still have whe

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DAC> On Friday, April 21, 2006, 5:14:13 PM, Peter Fjelsten wrote: GF>>> Is it possible to put dups in the trash folder? >> I think this is a pretty good idea just to make you able to undo. DAC> what is the danger of removing a duplicate of something which you DAC> still have wh

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter, On 22-04-2006 02:05, you [PO] wrote in : PO> Not all use something like "Empty trash on exit", I guess. Exactly! PO> I like the suggestion to put dupes in the trash, or some other way PO> to identify dupes and allow the user to make corrections. Me too. -- Best regards Peter Fjels

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Bat Tester & everyone else, on 21-Apr-2006 at 23:48 you (Bat Tester) wrote: > Try a different theme He's using the default Luna-blue theme of WinXP... if it doesn't work there, well... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) NP: "Celos" by Gotan Project

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello Ian, > There is an extra button on the title bar of your Sorting Office. The M>> one with a down pointed arrow (triangle) about 1 cm to the left of the M>> Minimise button. Where does it come from? That's not a standard Windows M>> button, is it? > > That is the ATI Catalyst Control Center b

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, April 21, 2006, 6:46:00 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: GF>>> Is it possible to put dups in the trash folder? >> I think this is a pretty good idea just to make you able to undo. > what is the danger of removing a duplicate of something which you > still have where you started? maybe I sh

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, April 21, 2006, 5:14:13 PM, Peter Fjelsten wrote: GF>> Is it possible to put dups in the trash folder? > I think this is a pretty good idea just to make you able to undo. what is the danger of removing a duplicate of something which you still have where you started? -- Dwight A. Cor

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread MAU
Hello Ian, > Well, here is one screen capture. There is an extra button on the title bar of your Sorting Office. The one with a down pointed arrow (triangle) about 1 cm to the left of the Minimise button. Where does it come from? That's not a standard Windows button, is it? -- Best regards, Mi

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Simon, Saturday, April 22, 2006, 12:04:59 AM, you wrote: S> Sorry I don't follow? S> Is this checking applied as the mail arrives in the mail base, or when S> the Maintenance Centre is run? If my folder has 20,000 messages and S> merrily deletes 100 of them through the use of subject chec

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi, Saturday, April 22, 2006, 1:36:49 AM, you wrote: > Is there a way to 'earmark' duplicates to make the checking easier? > A colour?  A mark or flag?  I don't think there is currently but such a feature would be good! > I can see that by using the "Remove Duplicates" option from right > cl

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 5:08 PM, you wrote: > It turns out that the sorting office dialog needed to be resized. I > had done nothing to shrink it, but if it gets below a certain size, > rather than reduce the size of both the conditions and actions (with > scroll bars as appropriate

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:56 PM, you wrote: > I have now worked it out, and it is definitely a bug. I have been trying to reproduce the bug, and I can't get the dialogue window small enough to make the bug show up. The smallest I can downsize it to is about 3 1/2 inches vertical x

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi, Saturday, April 22, 2006, 12:19:13 AM, you wrote: > Could you provide some information on this feature; how sure can we > be/ how can we check that non-duplicates are not being deleted by mistake? prior to this, any message that lacks Message-Id was simply ignored by the dupekiller (Main

Re: Sorting office, actions [was Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available]

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Richard! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:54 PM, you wrote: MB>> Sorry for complaining without experimenting sufficiently! > and you're normally so thorough too! ;-) :rofl2: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.72.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Goncalo, On 21-04-2006 23:32, you [GF] wrote in : 9>> Here is a short list of changes: [*] dupe killer: take Subject into 9>> account if message doesn't have a GF> Is it possible to put dups in the trash folder? I think this is a pretty good idea just to make you able to undo. -- Best regar

Re: Sorting office, actions [was Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available]

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Richard! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:49 PM, you wrote: MB>> But I can't seem to find out how to choose an action. > Right click in the action box of just choose add and that brings up a > long menu. For instance the first item is "move the message to a folder" > (well, it is here!) so cli

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:48 PM, you wrote: > Or, another theory, are you using large fonts? I'm using large fonts, with no problem. So maybe it's the "themes" problem that you mentioned which is the difficulty. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.72.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Richard! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:45 PM, you wrote: MB>> Ah, many thanks! That's indeed more convenient. > Yes, I thought that initially too but, on having a wee play with it, I > sometimes hit the "add condition" above when I meant to hit the "add" > button below. Now, if you should h

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:30 PM, you wrote: >>> Now both conditions and actions are on the first tab, so you can see >>> and edit filter actions without switching to the second tab like in >>> previous versions. MB>> Ah, many thanks! That's indeed more convenient. > Something

Re: Sorting office, actions [was Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available]

2006-04-21 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Mary, On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 you wrote in MB> Sorry for complaining without experimenting sufficiently! and you're normally so thorough too! ;-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) with SpamPal & POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2

Re: Sorting office, actions [was Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available]

2006-04-21 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Mary, On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 you wrote in MB> But I can't seem to find out how to choose an action. Right click in the action box of just choose add and that brings up a long menu. For instance the first item is "move the message to a folder" (well, it is here!) so click on that and then ano

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Bat Tester
Hello Ian, Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:40:03 PM, you wrote: > Well, here is one screen capture. It shows that there is no way to add > or see what the filter conditions are, and the second shows the menu > that comes up when I want to add an action. Try a different theme. It is possible your theme

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Mary, On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 you wrote in MB> Ah, many thanks! That's indeed more convenient. Yes, I thought that initially too but, on having a wee play with it, I sometimes hit the "add condition" above when I meant to hit the "add" button below. Now, if you should happen to hit the wrong

Re: Sorting office, actions [was Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available]

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:35 PM, you wrote: > But I can't seem to find out how to choose an action. Found it! I was trying with a filter that for some reason was faulty--lacked an action. All those with actions are editable. Sorry for complaining without experimenting sufficientl

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Partous
e some information on this feature; how sure can we be/ S> how can we check that non-duplicates are not being deleted by mistake? Well, if you only have 1 message with the subject: "Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available" everything works as expected! :-) -- Best Wishes,

Sorting office, actions [was Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available]

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:07 PM, you wrote: MB>> I've looked, and I can't tell what this re-design entails. Could you MB>> explain, please? > Now both conditions and actions are on the first tab, so you can see > and edit filter actions without switching to the second tab lik

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : 9> Here is a short list of changes: 9> [*] dupe killer: take Subject into account if message doesn't have a Is it possible to put dups in the trash folder? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Every absurdity has a champion to defend it. ___

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Friday, April 21, 2006, Ian A. White wrote: 9>> The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available from: 9>> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9>> [*] 'Sorting office' re-design > What has happened to be able to set a Condition? It is now impossible > to cr

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread 9Val
Hello Ian, IAW> What has happened to be able to set a Condition? It is now impossible IAW> to create a new filter or add or edit a condition. Can't confirm -- 9Val Cu

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread 9Val
Hello Simon, S> I have noted that when using the 'themes' the button appearance S> for Actions is different than for Conditions; where they appear the S> same when using the default theme. See the attached. There were some internal problems embedding new "stylish" buttons into conditions frame

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 4:07 PM, you wrote: MB>> I've looked, and I can't tell what this re-design entails. Could you MB>> explain, please? > Now both conditions and actions are on the first tab, so you can see > and edit filter actions without switching to the second tab lik

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread 9Val
Hello Mary, MB> I've looked, and I can't tell what this re-design entails. Could you MB> explain, please? Now both conditions and actions are on the first tab, so you can see and edit filter actions without switching to the second tab like in previous versions. --

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Friday, April 21, 2006, 3:33 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > [*] 'Sorting office' re-design I've looked, and I can't tell what this re-design entails. Could you explain, please? -

Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread Tony Brookes
Hello 9Val, Friday, April 21, 2006, 9:33:26 PM, you wrote: > Hello All, > The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available from: Direct link... http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb37212.rar Regards, -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3

The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available

2006-04-21 Thread 9Val
Hello All, The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] dupe killer: take Subject into account if message doesn't have a MsgID [*] 'Sorting office' re-design [-] C