Re[4]: External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-19 Thread tracer
Hello Oleg Zalyalov, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:32:52 +0400 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 2:32:52 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Oleg Zalyalov wrote: Oleg Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Oleg Wednesday, January 19, 2000, tracer wrote to Nick Danger about Oleg External

Re: Possible filter bug?

2000-01-19 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Ralf Buschmann, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 09:27:28 [GMT +0100] your local time which was Wednesday, January 19, 2000 15:27:28 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told to the list: RB I have set up a filter that is supposed to move undeliverable RB mails that bounce back to me to a

Re: Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-19 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 2:02:43 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Yes, I used the Agent combo for sometime myself but realized that Agent failed quite substantially on the e-mail side. It also fails quite markedly on the news side as well with it's inability to support multiple servers without

Re: Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:18:32 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: [..snip..] I have the same feelings toward Agent, and although I haven't tried X-News as yet, I am currently trying Gravity 2.2. It configures multiple servers easily, and has scoring as well. Have you tried this Program yet Allie?

Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Tom all other fellow TBUDL members, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 2:20:10 PM, Tom wrote in response to Mark's saying: MDP (it's only one additional keystroke after all. TP I'm getting used to The Bat!'s virtual space, I still don't like it. First of All: *Does upgrading from v. 1.38e to

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:13:30 -0600 GMT (19.01.2000, 21:13 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH On the other hand, when composing I do want the multiple signatures DH available from a pop up window, You can do that with quick templates. DH the active account also available from a

Re: Error Messages

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Oleg, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:13:21 +0400 GMT (18.01.2000, 19:13 +0800 GMT), Oleg Zalyalov wrote: TF However, how do I send this QUIT command to the server. OZ No way in this case. You have to wait those 10 minutes. No other OZ solution possible. Just thought of something: would it

Re[2]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas all fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 7:40:46 AM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH .. when composing I do want the multiple signatures available DH from a pop up window, TF You can do that with quick templates. Right. One for each account. Then you

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 7:48:38 PM, Thomas wrote: As a programmer, I don't understand why you would not appreciate the virual space Sure, space over to where I want, go up, add code in another block, drop back down, spaces are gone. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:36:11 -0600 GMT (19.01.2000, 22:36 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: TF You can do that with quick templates. DH Right. One for each account. Then you need macros for each and every DH signature / active account combination. Are you kidding? Actually, if

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 8:11:29 PM, Thomas wrote: No. Constructive means you have an idea what to "do", not what to "not do". No. Constructive means pointing out when people are about to step off a cliff and fall a great distance to very large and sharp rocks at the bottom.. IE,

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 9:15:28 PM, Syafril wrote: It is take 2 step :-(. Uhm, no, it doesn't. I bounced this message to myself. X-Sender was set to me. One step. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:22:56 PM, Allie wrote: Steve quite rightfully said that it's a bad idea. The message header could become filled with 'by way of's ... ' in a message repeatedly redirected. Not could, does. At my work nearly everyone uses Eudora. We bounce messages from

Re: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-19 Thread Jast
Morning Roel, too bad: that only creates massive overheads in the adressbook... also: keeping info up to date can be hell... oh well, i'll live :-) If sending only to the first is what you want, put the other addresses in the Memo field of the Other tab. What I'd want is making

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:46:30 PM, Thomas wrote: What's the standard: If redirecting, does the X-Sender have to stay intact? RFC#? In that case, Outlook is non-standard and this problem is not a TB problem. Otherwise, if - as Syafril wished - the X-Sender can be changed, there is no

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 11:14:54 PM, Oleg wrote: Ïîæèâåì -- óâèäèì. We'll live -- we'll see. Real life is not always what a child of 5 will grasp. I have strong doubts that this ideal scheme is implementable in real life. No, it isn't. But then considering the concept, this is

Re: Error Messages

2000-01-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 6:14:29 AM, Thomas wrote: Just thought of something: would it help if I telnet into that account and type QUIT at the unix prompt? (This may sound like a silly question) No, different connection. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm

Re[2]: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-19 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Jast, J If sending only to the first is what you want, put the other addresses in the J Memo field of the Other tab. good idea :-) didn't

adress-book memo-field

2000-01-19 Thread Roel
Hello Everybody, in my adress-book, a few of my contact (not all, that makes it so strange) have this in the other - memo-field: Binary anyone got any idea what this is how it got there? (i've never used the memo-field untill now, so tb! must have putted it there...) or is

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-19 Thread Claude
à : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) de : Claude (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) le 18/01/2000, 23:36:39, heure française. Objet : suggestion- / wish-list Bonjour TBUDL, En réponse à message du 18/01/2000, SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote: Of course the

Re[2]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas all fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 8:54:17 AM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH Right. One for each account. Then you need macros for each and DH every signature / active account combination. TF Actually, if you click on "share with other accounts",

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:57:20 -0600 GMT (19.01.2000, 23:57 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: TF While reading mail: I switch accounts with the mouse. DH You have to look for it. And you don't have to look at a pop-up window? TF I hope you don't mean something *always* visable.

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Steve, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:07:52 -0800 GMT (19.01.2000, 23:07 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: No. Constructive means you have an idea what to "do", not what to "not do". SL No. Constructive means pointing out when people are about to step off a SL cliff and fall a great distance

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Thomas, On 19 January 2000 at 01:03:46 GMT +0800 (which was 17:03 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: TF (We're OT again. Marck is selecting the knife to kill the horse.) Still allowing a few final breaths to see if there *is* a forthcoming "constructive"

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-19 Thread Jast
Morning Allie Martin, Er. *Allie clears his throat* Objection sire :-D That pop-up confirmation has saved my ass on many an occasion when I accidentally hit the delete key or selected the wrong menu option with both keyboard and mouse. Bleh. I don't like these confirmation popup

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Jast
Morning Thomas Fernandez, Ah, you mean the same as the "virtual folders" discussed earlier, with the option "show all new messages here". Well, the mail ticker can do it, but I don't like it :-( With virtuals folder (if we get them), you could filter all incoming messages into one. The

Proxy/firewall pass-through?

2000-01-19 Thread Hogland, Thomas E.
I've checked the FAQ and help and such and can't find this mentioned anyplace. I'm behind a corporate firewall and would like to access an outside mail server. The proxy/firewall does have telnet/http access available, so I'm wondering if there's a way to set TB to use these. TIA --

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:13:30 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: [..snip..] You may have noticed that most TB users and supporters (i.e. AEV) on TBUDL *aren't your* "typical Windows users", don't share the typical assumptions held by US "Windows users" and are not even in the U.S. Welcome to TB!, a

Re: DNS problem?

2000-01-19 Thread Michael Heydekamp
Dear Syafril, on Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 20:26, you wrote: SH Normally, if we moved domain zone from one Name Server to others it SH needs 7-days to be effective (this is default TTL for BIND 8.x; for SH 4.x or NT DNS the default 3-days). 7 days? Both my old and my new ISP spoke about

Re: DNS problem?

2000-01-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Michael, On 19 January 2000 at 19:38:28 GMT +0100 (which was 18:38 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: This is last info from our DNS (who the List refer to). SH Other possibilities, my Name Server didn't receive broadcast from SH your new DNS, see below, the

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list" From Thomas Fernandez: TF With virtuals folder (if we get them), you could filter all incoming TF messages into one. The you could have "read"-filters sorting the TF messages into the folders where you want to store them.

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:40:46 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I don't know what *virtually* viewing messages means. I always *really* view my messages. g When you use the search facility to run search across all accounts, it displays all the matches in it's viewer. You are able to read the

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Kynast
Hi Steve, SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote: Of course the external editor option looks more attractive all the time. SL OF course it does. IMO the term 'external editor' is a little misleading. It is possible to integrate such a component written by another company

Re: adress-book memo-field

2000-01-19 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 19 Jan 00, at 16:53, Roel wrote about "adress-book memo-field": in my adress-book, a few of my contact (not all, that makes it so strange) have this in the other - memo-field: Binary anyone got any idea what this is how it got there? It's been there

Re: Possible filter bug?

2000-01-19 Thread Dieter Hummel
Hello Listmembers, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 09:27:28 [GMT +0100] Ralf Buschmann wrote: I have set up a filter that is supposed to move undeliverable mails that bounce back to me to a special folder. The filter is on top of my filter list. The only filter rule I have set up for this filter is

Re: Proxy/firewall pass-through?

2000-01-19 Thread Dieter Hummel
Hello Listmembers, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 08:46:38 [GMT -0900] Hogland, Thomas E. wrote: I've checked the FAQ and help and such and can't find this mentioned anyplace. I'm behind a corporate firewall and would like to access an outside mail server. The proxy/firewall does have telnet/http

RE: Proxy/firewall pass-through?

2000-01-19 Thread Hogland, Thomas E.
I asked: I've checked the FAQ and help and such and can't find this mentioned anyplace. I'm behind a corporate firewall and would like to access an outside mail server. The proxy/firewall does have telnet/http access available, so I'm wondering if there's a way to set TB to use

Re: Proxy/firewall pass-through?

2000-01-19 Thread Dieter Hummel
Hello Listmembers, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 13:50:57 [GMT -0900] Hogland, Thomas E. wrote: Perhaps I'm not understanding, or didn't ask clearly. Situation is, I'm at work behind firewall. Trying to get to my personal e-mail account at my ISP. Ports are open (110, 25, 8080, 23) to

Re: Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-19 Thread Pasquale J. Festa Sr.
Hello Grant, January 18, 2000, 8:10:22 AM, you wrote: GB I'm a long time user of Agent, and have to admit that this is the GB first program to come along in _years_ that turned my head at all! I GB really like the functionality of the Bat. However, mail is probably GB only 1/4 of my needs. The

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Tom Plunket
DH Have you tried Alt-J? Personally can't stand all of the weird spacing, but that has nothing to do with virtual space: DH I use TB for correspondence in both English and Spanish. Spanish DH text is generally justified. You can justify any paragraph "de DH volada" (on the fly) simply by doing

Re[2]: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Tom Plunket
SL Yes, that is the point of bounces. Further, call the things bounces. SL Call kludges headers. Use , to separate addresses in the header fields, not SL ;. I am SO glad I'm not the only one who thinks these things. "Kluge" means "hack." "Kludge" is a misspelling of that word (in its

Re[2]: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-19 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello dMb, d When you click on the address button in the editor, there will be a d little check box at the bottom that says: Add Secondary Addresses

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-19 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Steve Lamb, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 07:10:10 [GMT -0800] your local time which was Wednesday, January 19, 2000 22:10:10 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told to the list: SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 9:15:28 PM, Syafril wrote: It is take 2 step :-(. SL Uhm, no, it doesn't. I

Re: DNS problem?

2000-01-19 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Michael Heydekamp, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 19:32:08 [GMT +0100] your local time which was Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:32:08 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told to the list: SH Normally, if we moved domain zone from one Name Server to others SH it needs 7-days to be effective (this

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-19 Thread Jast
Morning Allie Martin, Undo is not very practical for all things. Abort ... fine. But how do you reverse the damages. I definitely support popup confirmations for potentially seriously damaging operations such as deleting accounts, folder contents etc. It's not everyday that you do it. I