Hi Allie,
ACM> Blarp is using Tiny Personal Firewall and not ZA.
I've also tried running without TPF active at all (disabled service,
reboot) and it has no effect on TB's periodical checking. It seems to
be something internal to TB. Since it only gets reported on XP & 2000,
I wonder if there's s
Hello Blarp,
B> There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've
B> seen (including mine).
Ok, this may be of interest to you and others: Earlier today I
uninstalled The Bat, but I said no to the question of whether to
remove the message base or not. After reinstalling the pr
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 11:34:21 PM, you wrote:
JS> I should have thought about that before I 'solved' the problem by
JS> reinstallation. Next time it comes around I'll try to remember to
JS> save that part of the registry :) I've now exported it while it works
JS> ok.
Hi Johnny,
Tha
22 August 2002, 07:05, you wrote:
E> I'm one of them . I think they still can be "educated",
E> perhaps more easily than their grandchildren.
Well, I'm sure you're more focussed and have an attention span of more
than a nanosecond!
E> just personally cable networked my own PC and laptop, next
Hello Clive
On Thursday, August 22, 2002, you wrote
> 21 August 2002, 19:36, you wrote:
> If you mean that TB is suitable (or appropriate) for retirees, silver
> surfers, the grey market -- or whatever today's euphemism for the
> elderly is, I think I'd disagree.
I'm one of them . I think the
21 August 2002, 19:36, you wrote:
E> I think TB is missing a BIG market for its product.
If you mean that TB is suitable (or appropriate) for retirees, silver
surfers, the grey market -- or whatever today's euphemism for the
elderly is, I think I'd disagree.
I provide home support and advice fo
I found a way to fix it. Change my client. 8)
Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi Lynn,
Thursday, August 22, 2002, 3:29:43 PM, you wrote:
LT> Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 6:10:03 PM, you wrote:
R>> actually that's exactly how I found the bat!. I was looking for
R>> something that functioned and was more advanced than what I was
R>> using.
LT> Hi Razgo -
LT> Did you fi
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 6:10:03 PM, you wrote:
R> actually that's exactly how I found the bat!. I was looking for
R> something that functioned and was more advanced than what I was
R> using.
Hi Razgo -
Did you find it difficult to set up and use?
I've been using TB for several years, bu
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 11:04:13 AM, you wrote:
B> IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and
B> downloads it to give it a shot is, by definition,
B> probably NOT a beginner at e-mail. They are
B> specifically looking for something more advanced than
B> what they are currently u
Hello Allie,
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, at 20:17:58 GMT -0500 (8/21/02, 8:17 PM -0500 GMT
here), you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
ACM> Blarp is using Tiny Personal Firewall and not ZA. He has the
ACM> problem. Luc, also with the problem, isn't using ZA.
ACM> ZA may be known to
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Greg Strong [GS] wrote:'
GS> Are you referring to [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
Yes. This testimony is an interesting one. Not only this one, but
one person in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL
Hello Allie,
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, at 18:34:02 GMT -0500 (8/21/02, 6:34 PM -0500 GMT
here), you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
ACM> I don't think ZA is to blame for the frequently reported problems
ACM> with auto-mail checking. Especially since a clean install of TB!
ACM> fi
Hello Johnny,
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, at 23:15:37 GMT +0300 (8/21/02, 3:15 PM -0500 GMT
here), you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
JS> Just now I uninstalled the program and answered yes to all questions
JS> of removal - that is both from the registry and the mail directory.
JS
Hi Blarp,
Thursday, August 22, 2002, 4:04:13 AM, you wrote:
B> Hi Lynn,
LT>> and any
LT>> who were intimidated would probably have been intimidated
LT>> by the software and gone to something else anyway
B> IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads it to
B> give it a shot
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Greg Strong [GS] wrote:'
RW>> Hope that helps to give people an explanation as to what's
RW>> happening and a solution for people in the future.
GS> I haven't had a problem with TB & ZAP, but thanks for
Hi Sudip.
At 9:33 AM on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 you [SP]
wrote the following about Auto Delete Certain
Messages:
SP> I looked around but can't find an effective
SP> way to delete messages from *a particular
SP> sender* after 'n' number of days. Of course
SP> there's the folder option, "keep mes
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeanny House [JH] wrote:'
JH> I'm not a beginner, but I find I know less and less about
JH> computer stuff as time goes on. I could navigate around MS-DOS
JH> pretty well, then settled into the easier st
Hello Ross,
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 10:27:44 GMT -0400 (8/20/02, 9:27 AM -0500 GMT
here), you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
RW> Hope that helps to give people an explanation as to what's happening
RW> and a solution for people in the future.
I haven't had a problem with T
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On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, Joe User wrote...
> I went ahead and purged and compressed. Thanks for the info.
> I hope this helps remedy this laggy situation!
It should help even if just a little as it will remove all the so
called deleted messag
Hexdump,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 2:18:58 PM, you typed:
> If you've never compressed the folder in the TB!, I'd recommend that
> you do so. To the best of my knowledge deleted messages remain in the
> messagebase (marked as deleted, and are hidden) until the messagebase
> is compressed. You
Hello Gerard,
G> You also might want to copy all the register setting to a file so you
G> can check for differences and do a restore if it happens again.
G> This could possibly help find the cause if it is in TB! registry.
I should have thought about that before I 'solved' the problem by
reinsta
Dear Joe,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 9:02:48 PM you wrote:
>> There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've
>> seen (including mine).
JU> I'm now experiencing this problem.
JU> No firewall installed.
JU> XP Pro.
JU> 1.60q.
Yeah, but you are cheating ;-) You use 1.
Dear Blarp,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 8:38:10 PM you wrote:
B> There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've
B> seen (including mine).
Okay... It is the first time I heard about it. None of our customers
seem to have the problem.
--
Kind regards,
Britt Malka
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:05:49 PM, Allie C Martin wrote:
ACM> You don't have to be a beginner to find TB! intimidating or too much
ACM> to handle. IMO, it really depends on your needs and what you want
ACM> out of it as well as your willingness to wade through its feature
ACM> rich interface
Johnny,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:29:25 PM, you typed:
> A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options
> one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user
> reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid
> backup/restore function)
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 10:29:25 PM, you wrote:
JS> A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options
JS> one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user
JS> reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid
JS> backup/restore functio
Hello Joe,
JU> What would be better is if someone could see how long this will
JU> actually work for. Not interested in reinstalling this client every
JU> few weeks or months in order for it to work properly.
A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options
one often resorts
Johnny,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:15:37 PM, you typed:
> Would be good if somebody with the same problem could confirm if this
> procedure works there too.
What would be better is if someone could see how long this will
actually work for. Not interested in reinstalling this client every
few
Hello Ross,
Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 7:18:11 PM, you wrote:
RW> No problem. The joys of working at an ISP, eventually it would
RW> come back to haunt me as people start complaining about my load
RW> balancer and how it doesn't work, when in fact it's ZA that's
RW> causing the issue.
Even
Hello Blarp,
B> I wish this were the case. I've tried disabling my firewall (Tiny
B> Personal, not ZA) and it still stops periodical checking. It WILL
B> check on startup but nothing after that.
Ok, this may be of interest to you and others: Earlier today I
uninstalled The Bat, but I said no to
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roelof Otten wrote:
EC>>Is it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly?
>Reproduces here.
Same here.
>Assigned a hotkey and I got a pop-up to select a folder, but I
>got an error and no files were saved. No matter what pane was
>sele
Hi Gerard,
G> Have a look at: Control panel | administrative tools| services.
G> Check if task scheduler is started/automatic
G> Same for DHCP client / DNS client.
All good so that's not it.
--
Tom G.
http://blarp.com <-- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 9:25:09 PM, you wrote:
B> Hi Gerard,
G>> You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now.
B> No I haven't. I just put up with it and manually click.
I have a very similar setup for 6 months now and even use ZA and no
problems.
Have a look at:
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Hi Johnny,
@21-Aug-2002, 21:34 +0300 (19:34 UK time) Johnny Skaaning [JS] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
B>> ... no idea what causes it or how to fix it. And so far, no one
B>> else on this list does either. You might try submitti
Hello Hexdump
On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, you wrote
> If you've never compressed the folder in the TB!, I'd recommend that
> you do so. To the best of my knowledge deleted messages remain in the
> messagebase (marked as deleted, and are hidden) until the messagebase
> is compressed. You can c
Hi Gerard,
G> You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now.
No I haven't. I just put up with it and manually click.
--
Tom G.
http://blarp.com <-- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
Current version is 1
Hi Ross,
RW> If so, you're probably running into a nice little conflict that I
RW> posted about a few days ago and gave a couple of solutions for getting
RW> around the problem.
I wish this were the case. I've tried disabling my firewall (Tiny
Personal, not ZA) and it still stops periodical chec
Hello Joe,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:07:14 PM, you wrote:
> Roelof,
> Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:09:21 AM, you typed:
[snip]
>> When was your last compress? When was your last defrag of your mail
>> partition? Especially compressing your messagebase can prevent
>> these. (Folder - Compre
Hello Roelof,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 11:17:10 AM, you wrote:
> Hallo Eddie,
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:38:40 +0200GMT (21-8-02, 16:38 +0200GMT,
> where I live), you wrote:
EC>> Dear readers from 'TB!udl List',
EC>> Is it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly?
EC>> NOTE: I h
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Etm [E] wrote:'
E> I think TB is missing a BIG market for its product.
Potentially yes, and people like us, using non-mainstream and
powerful software like TB! tend to always be saddened by the small
us
Luigi,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:36:23 AM, you typed:
> I always copress/pack on exit, but when I delete a lot of messages in one
> time the time it takes is incredibly long (say 4-5 seconds for about 80/100
> msgs)
I don't. However, my deletes from the trash take about the same amount
of t
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Blarp [B] wrote:'
B> IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads
B> it to give it a shot is, by definition, probably NOT a beginner
B> at e-mail. They are specifically looking for so
Roelof,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:09:21 AM, you typed:
> Never noticed that behaviour.
Count your blessings.
> When was your last compress? When was your last defrag of your mail
> partition? Especially compressing your messagebase can prevent these.
> (Folder - Compress all folders)
I do
Good evening Johnny,
It was foretold that on 21-8-2002 @ 20:59:51 GMT+0300 (which was
19:59:51 where I live) Johnny Skaaning spread these wise comments:
JS> Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation
JS> (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the period
Luigi,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 12:56:59 AM, you typed:
> I noticed that too. It seems that TB! calls some sort of
> delete_single_message() funcion for each of the selected messages instead of
> a sort of delete_multiple_message() in wich it could perform the messagebase
> housekeeping funct
> There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've
> seen (including mine).
I'm now experiencing this problem.
No firewall installed.
XP Pro.
1.60q.
---
Cheers,
Joe
Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" informat
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 8:38:10 PM, you wrote:
B> Hi Britt,
BM>> Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with
BM>> that version.
B> There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've
B> seen (including mine).
Hi Blarp,
You did get it started agai
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Hi,
I posted a little while ago about an issue I was having with a filter
that was supposed to look in an exemptions list to see whether or not
to add the user to my TB! contacts list. If the user was listed
there, it would not add them to that list
Hi Johnny,
JS> Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation
JS> (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical
JS> checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working.
JS> I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to
Hi Britt,
BM> Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with
BM> that version.
There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've
seen (including mine).
--
Tom G.
http://blarp.com <-- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
__
Hi Blarp, Britt Malka and John Thomas,
B> It happened to me and reinstall didn't cure it. Same platform. I have
B> no idea what causes it or how to fix it. And so far, no one else on
B> this list does either. You might try submitting a bug report. Maybe an
B> extra voice will help.
That is reall
Hello Blarp
On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, you wrote
> IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads it to
> give it a shot is, by definition, probably NOT a beginner at e-mail.
> They are specifically looking for something more advanced than what
> they are currently using or
Hello Britt,
On August 21, 2002, at 11:12 AM you [BM] wrote (at least in part):
BM> It is a pity that you don't mention the version you are using in
BM> your template.
I found it very handy to show the mailer of all messages. I found
this is possible by selecting View, Message Header, Mailer.
Dear Johnny,
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 7:59:51 PM you wrote:
JS> Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation
JS> (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical
JS> checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working.
It is a pity th
Hi Johnny,
JS> Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation
JS> (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical
JS> checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working.
JS> I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to
Hi Lynn,
LT> and any
LT> who were intimidated would probably have been intimidated
LT> by the software and gone to something else anyway
IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads it to
give it a shot is, by definition, probably NOT a beginner at e-mail.
They are specifical
Hello all,
Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation
(it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical
checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working.
I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to
do it manually.
Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 10:07:49 AM, you wrote:
E> Yes, I think people are wonderful about answering the questions
E> that newcomers might pose, if the newcomers are willing to
E> surface. But many threads are way over their heads or of no
E> interest to a beginner who is attempting to learn
Dear Roelof,
--->>> Roelof Otten / Mittwoch, 21.08.2002, 17:17:10
Export to EML does not work properly
> Reproduces here. Assigned a hotkey and I got a pop-up to select a
> folder, ...
Yes I forgot the specify. It asked also on my side for the folder.
--
best regards
Eddie
Pow
Hallo Eddie,
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:38:40 +0200GMT (21-8-02, 16:38 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
EC> Dear readers from 'TB!udl List',
EC> Is it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly?
EC> NOTE: I have assigned the Tool|Export to EML to a Short Key.
Reproduces here. Assigne
Dear readers from 'TB!udl List',
Is it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly? I managed
to do so in some cases but generally TB! tells me 'Could not Export
Message'.
NOTE: I have assigned the Tool|Export to EML to a Short Key.
When using the Tool|Export to MSG it works fine.
-
On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, Razgo wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
JN>> However, I also archive certain email on the fly. For those messages,
JN>> I have filters set up which automatically append the message onto a
JN>> Unix-formatted file.
R> yes, this is something I wil
At 20.08.2002 16:04, Peter Palmreuther wrote the following:
> in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written:
JBG>> The question is - will RIT Labs be able to release anything under an
JBG>> Open Source licence?
> Why do they have to? Is there anything I've overlooked in the la
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 12:45:40 AM, you wrote:
RMR> to avoid certain kinds of javascript that trigger popup ads, or
RMR> annoying animations, for example.
RMR> most of the Proxomitron rules look like:
RMR> Search for this kind of code, replace it with this that does
RMR> not
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Hi James,
@20-Aug-2002, 17:58 -0500 (23:58 UK time) James Olsen [JO] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
...
JO> My external program is (or at least should be) modifying the
JO> file passed to it as %1.
JO> However, the message tha
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