This is a forwarded message
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard on the TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 3:09:30 AM
Subject: Bouncing Emails
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Spam detection software, running on the system sun.procreatie.nl, has
Hello Thorvald,
Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:27:58 +0200 UTC Thorvald Neumann wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
TN Yes, it is a common problem with TB!. Just disable the X-Mailer
TN setting in your preferences and it will not appear.
I have it disabled. It was Chris' message that got, erm, caught.
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From: Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, September 4, 2004, 1:23:36 AM
Subject: [Courier-imap] blank message problem
===8==Original message text===
Karolis writes:
clients. This problem referred to as blank
Or even better: a mechanism that will do that for /any/ folder of
/any/ account. Is that possible?
--
Regards, Charles.
The Bat! version 2.13 Lucky Beta/3
on Windows 2000 5.0 (2195 Service Pack 4)
via Courier IMAP 3.06 on FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE
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Hello David,
Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:43:28 +0200 UTC David Earl wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
DE Ok, honor system, basically. That's ok, and probably easier for
DE RITLabs to track.
It's impossible to track, which is why you call it an honor system.
--
Regards, Charles.
The Bat!
Hello David,
Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:58:59 +0200 UTC David Earl wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
DE On the TB web page, there is a list of prices, but there's no
DE info about what's included/required. Are there special benefits
DE to, for example, a business license?
There are no benefits.
Hello 9Val,
9Val [9] wrote on Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:39:44 +0300 UTC:
9 Hmm, try to change split modes (Main Menu/Options/Window Split Mode/*)
Ah, that works.
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Regards, Charles.
Reference: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've installed TB! 2.12 on an NT4/SP6a machine. After startup, I can
see the three panes being created (accounts/folders, message list,
message), but immediately afterwards I'm left with one big grey pane
showing No message loaded. How can I overcome
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Chris Weaven wrote:
| CMG Alternatively, you could connect to your IMAP server with telnet
and see
| CMG when it times out.
| How would I go about doing this? Apologies, I heard Telnet mentioned all
| the time, but never really got around to working
Hello WilWilWil,
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:33:54 +0200 UTC, WilWilWil wrote:
W Really good remark. I use mail clients for years, as OE5, Office
W Outlook, and others, but never I've seen a spell checker for subject
W line.
Use Mac OS X. The speller is part of the system so it's available
anywhere
Hello Chris,
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:03:01 +0100 UTC, Chris Weaven wrote:
CW I not sure if the above made sense, but when connecting to the IMAP
CW server without TLS and therefore without stunnel, I'm still getting the
CW 'Server Closed Connection' message?
It did make sense. Did I make sense?
I'm using a folder template to change the way the Reply button works for
some mailing lists. This to me feels like a kludge, as my other mailer
(mutt) doesn't need this as it supports the Mail-Followup-To header
field.
http://russnelson.com/rt.html
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Hello Chris,
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:13:38 +0100 UTC, Chris Weaven wrote:
CW Has anyone here successfully set-up SpamPal with Stunnel using TLS
CW without having these, what appear to be, timeout problems?
CMG Have you considered posting this to the stunnel list at mirt.net?
CW Hmm, didn't
Hello Chris,
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:26:56 +0100 UTC, Chris Weaven wrote:
CW I'll join if I have to, but was hoping the knowledgeable people here at
CW TBUDL may be of help! :-)
Well, at least you must be doing something right as at least the
moderators of this list don't think that this is
Hello 9Val,
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:01:23 +0300 UTC, 9Val wrote:
9 May be Thunderbird is faster on wide connections, don't know and have
9 no possibility to test
UI wise, TB! is faster on a Pentium II with 256M of memory, Firefox and
two PuTTY windows open. IMAP wise, TB (no exclamation mark, so
Hello Admin,
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:47:45 +0100 UTC, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
aacu If I change to IMAP (all are currently POP3) will I compromise any of
aacu that functionality - I earn my living using TB!
If you earn your living using TB!, are you sure that you want to make
that depend on beta
Hello Spike,
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:24:07 -0500 UTC, Spike wrote:
S Hello hasan,
h My assistant use outlook 2003. When they reply h outlook removes the
h fw from the subject of the replied mail. Result is that h the
h message is not threaded properly. h Anyway around it. h --
There are two ways
Hello Allie,
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:38:35 -0500 UTC, Allie Martin wrote:
AM When I watch TB! do a single task, it's very fast. However, when I
AM request a message body, I often have to wait a while at work while TB!
AM completes what's already queued to be done.
I was about to say something
Hello Britt,
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:33:30 +0200 UTC, Britt Henrikson wrote:
BH Export them from my browser??? Does my browser have these TB address
BH books??
It's not an address book, it's the root certificate of a Certificate
Authority (Verisign et al).
--
Regards, Charles.
Using TB! 2.12
Hello Dave,
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:09:09 -0400 UTC, Dave Goodman wrote:
The problem seems to be X-ray, because I tried the same thing with
different servers of different ISP, with X-ray and TB without X-ray,
and the problem occurs with any ISP and only when X-ray handels TB's
SMTP.
DG
Britt Henrikson wrote:
Answering another question from you: Yes, I for one like it when you
state the real subject in the Subject: line, not something stupid like
you see in tbbeta like: Probable bug? Classic...
I have created several address books of my own. What are Certum CA
Directory,
Britt Henrikson wrote:
When I read lots of mails in a row, some read msgs are still marked as
unread afterwards. Is this a bug?
The message should be flagged read after the expiry time of two seconds
(this is the default and is configurable). So if you're moving to
another message before those
Hello Roelof,
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:43:41 +0200 UTC, Roelof Otten wrote:
RO Of course it's possible to implement. If you can imagine it, it can be
RO implemented.
Hey, that's copyrighted! :)
--
Regards, Charles.
Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Hello Cyrille,
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:59:09 +0200 UTC, Cyrille wrote:
C I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat!
C When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error
C message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end
C with CRLF.CRLF.
C What does this
Hello Britt,
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:02:32 +0200 UTC, Britt Henrikson wrote:
Answering another question from you: Yes, I for one like it when you
state the real subject in the Subject: line, not something stupid
like you see in tbbeta like: Probable bug? Classic...
BH I'm not aware of having
Hello Roelof,
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:45:33 +0200 UTC, Roelof Otten wrote:
RO Ah, but I meant to say should not
And you didn't inhale :).
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Regards, Charles.
Using TB! 2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Current version is 2.11.02 |
Hello Roelof,
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:48:16 +0200 UTC, Roelof Otten wrote:
RO However you're posting garbage. Messages without Message-ID (that's
RO illegal according to the RFC's)
RFC2822 says under section 3.6.4:
Though optional, every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field.
--
Regards,
Hello Kevin,
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:51:50 -0700 UTC, Kevin Amazon wrote:
KA As a matter of fact, we have our server set up to trash messages
KA without a message ID for spam and virus reasons.
Danger, Will Robinson! Did you know that Outlook 2003 does not generate
them?
And mind you, although
Hello Kevin,
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:31:42 -0700 UTC, Kevin Amazon wrote:
Danger, Will Robinson! Did you know that Outlook 2003 does not generate
them?
KA Outlook doesn't have to. This is the job of the mail server.
What rfc states this? It isn't. Why would a mta do that if it doesn't
know
Hello Roelof,
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 03:00:58 +0200 UTC, Roelof Otten wrote:
RO Hallo Charles,
RO On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 01:02:13 +0200GMT (3-7-2004, 1:02 +0200, where I
RO live), you wrote:
Danger, Will Robinson! Did you know that Outlook 2003 does not generate
them?
KA Outlook doesn't have to.
Hello Thomas,
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:48:55 +0700 UTC, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
40 CMG I fail to see why TB! should destroy the message-id.
TF 50 Should? No, I don't think anybody ever said that. The question is,
TF does it violate the RFC if the MUA doesn't supply the MID. The answer
TF is: no,
Hello Charles,
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 07:19:37 +0200 UTC, Charles M. Gerungan wrote:
CMG If you quote, do it correctly. Here's Roelof's paragraph which I quoted
CMG and was right before your 50:
s/50/40
--
Regards, Charles.
Using TB! 2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
ken green wrote:
Of course, TB continues to lead the industry in smiley support so all
is not lost.
That'll be on the top of my list for selecting a mail reader...
--
Regards, Charles.
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
Peter Ouwehand wrote:
Please more attention and feedback - new beta cycle is dedicated to
bug-fixing. IMAP users your opinions have high priority :)
What about attention and feedback from developers? I don't even know who
they are. Maybe 9val? At least he replies to some of the messages...
--
Peter Ouwehand wrote:
I don't 'know' them either. Except from TB lists or BugTracker.
So that's good then.
Do you 'know' your FreeBSD 4.10 STABLE developers?
They frequent the lists often and some have personal sites.
--
Regards, Charles.
Current
For some of us, Windows is not the main OS and as such run it is run on
slow computers. Is there a way to get rid of the splash screen? It
blocks the screen for 20 seconds.
--
Regards, Charles.
Using TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Hello Leif,
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:17:46 -0600 UTC, Leif Gregory wrote:
LG C:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.EXE /NOLOGO
Yes :)
--
Regards, Charles.
Using TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using
Hello Max,
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:00:06 +0200 UTC, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
MRA thanx - that works fine...still would like the boldness to be italic
MRA or lesser black...but that I guess is just wishes for now ;)
Yes. It is the main reason I don't use the threaded view. Such a shame,
and it
Hello Martin,
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 10:27:05 +0100 UTC, Martin Webster wrote:
CMG Did you ever ran Mulberry on a Mac? Not one Mac user will accept its UI.
CMG Not even me, and I'm a techie. Their IMAP capabilities are up to par,
CMG though.
MW No, I've only tried it on Windows and that was to
Hello Martin,
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:30:11 +0100 UTC, Martin Webster wrote:
MW Another suggestion... Opera 7.51?
CMG No. Apple Mail or Thunderbird. That's the best of them.
MW That's your opinion. :-) Avi was looking for suggestions.
What is it that you like about Opera?
--
Regards,
Hello Sacksa,
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:19:59 -0500UTC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
scc I have used The Bat very happily for a few years on our PC-type computers.
scc Now that we are in the market for a Mac/Apple computer, is The Bat
scc compatible with Mac/Apple computers?
No, but you can run any OS
Hello Adam,
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:23:44 -0230UTC Adam wrote:
I've made a filter who deletes the mails of peoples I know they are spammers. The
A The power of thy sword is the mightiest that elvish men have beheld.
It makes me wonder how big that sword needs to be? Most of the times,
spammers
Hello Alex,
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:08:02 -0400UTC Alex Ezell wrote:
I guess not as it is, but I'm not sure. It's just that I never saw
anyone using a Mac on the TB! lists... ;-)
Here's one :).
AE No, it's a Windows application only. Having said that, there is
AE VirtualPC for Mac which
Hello Martin,
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:53:39 +0100UTC Martin Webster wrote:
MW The only application I can think of (that works with Windows and Mac) is
MW Mulberry.
Did you ever ran Mulberry on a Mac? Not one Mac user will accept its UI.
Not even me, and I'm a techie. Their IMAP capabilities are
Hello Leif,
Friday, June 18, 2004, 10:57:43 PM you wrote:
Claude So, do you know if Ritlabs plan to create such a list ?
LG Not that I'm aware of. RitLabs doesn't run any of the TB lists. They
LG are *all* volunteer efforts.
Look, I'll be glad to host such a list, but that's where it would all
Hello Robin,
Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:26:32 AM you wrote:
How do you enter space as shortcut key?
RA Highlight the one you want to change and press space. Works for me.
Yes, it does. But when you double click on the item and the Change
Hotkey popup comes into view, it doesn't work.
--
Hello Bobi,
Friday, June 18, 2004, 9:45:23 AM you wrote:
Charles ºÃµÄ
BJ bye bye.
What's that?
--
Regards, Charles.
TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600)
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
When reading mail messages, space scrolls down the message pane and
when the end of the message has been reached, it moves down to the next
message.
However, I have sorted my messages by date descending. I couldn't find
an option to have space move to the next unread message -- in my case,
that
Hello Robin,
Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:46:50 AM you wrote:
I couldn't find an option to have space move to the next unread
message -- in my case, that would be up -- instead of blindly moving
down.
RA ALT+F12 will bring up the shortcuts editor, then go to Message List
RA Pop-up and change
Hello Roelof,
Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 6:38:48 AM you wrote:
RO The rest is to convince your serverto send for for all of those
RO addresses via one account. As I'm running my own server, that's easy.
Are you talking about aliases? That's something Adam can most probably
also do as most ISP's
Are there macros for a short date and UTC time (or a time zone, don't
know if Windows has that)? Comes in handy in newsgroups like this where
the audience is international.
Example: 16 Sep 04 08:49 UTC
--
Regards, Charles.
TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600)
Hello Martin,
Thursday, June 17, 2004, 12:10:32 AM you wrote:
S With Crossover in Xandros...does this mean you can use TheBat?? How
S well will it run?
MW It works... but not to an acceptable standard.
Alternatively, you could use OS X and if you really have to have TB! you
could run any
Hello rich,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 8:53:40 AM, you wrote:
C BeginFilter
C Name: Outgoing
C Active: 1
C Source: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C Target: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C CopyFolder: none
C MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C Actions:
C AddGroups:
rg ... snip ...
C SoundTime:
Hello Roelof,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 11:47:54 AM, you wrote:
CMG Can you sent it to me, the Dutch spelling checker? Alvast bedankt.
RO Not necessary anymore. My message was dated when I sent it. ;-) Per
RO the eighth of June the Dutch spelling checker is included again in the
RO international
What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing
lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the
original sender of the message, not the post address for the mailing
list.
The details:
- When pressing the reply button, TB! should address the message to the
Hello Peter,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:55:04 PM, you wrote:
CMG What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing
CMG lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the
CMG original sender of the message, not the post address for the mailing
CMG list.
PM
Hello Chris,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 5:42:37 PM, you wrote:
C mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Furthermore, do I cut and paste this somewhere and click OK? :).
C You just copy and paste; no clicking OK is required. First, select all
C of the filter (from BeginFilter to EndFilter). Then, open the Sorting
Hello Peter,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 5:28:26 PM, you wrote:
PM Hi Charles,
PM on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:12:48 +0200GMT, you wrote:
CMG What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing
CMG lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the
CMG original sender
Hello Marck,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 6:34:41 PM, you wrote:
MDP @13-Jun-2004, 16:14 +0200 (13-Jun 15:14 UK time) Charles M. Gerungan
MDP [NC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
NC - When pressing the reply button, TB! should address the message
NC to the following address: Original sender name
NC
Hello Peter,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 8:21:15 PM, you wrote:
PM In that case I'd save the template as a Quick Template with the %Clear
PM macro in the first line and select it manually by typing the handle
PM +ctrl+space.
I went for Marck's solution which exactly followed my requirements:
Press
Hello Marck,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 8:49:38 PM, you wrote:
NC A folder template, that sounds like what I need.
MDP Be careful! It will re-address any messages back to the list if you
MDP aren't careful - even from external mailto URLs if you leave the
MDP folder selected in the main window.
Hello Roelof,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 10:03:06 PM, you wrote:
CMG Ah, yes, that's something I've been fighting with: How can you know
CMG which account is used when the new message/reply/forward window is up?
CMG On my Mac, I can always see that and change the account used.
RO You can see the
Hello Roelof,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 11:31:20 PM, you wrote:
RO On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:32:19 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 22:32 +0200, where I
RO live), you wrote:
CMG I like the other person's suggestion more: Bottom of the screen, and it
CMG can be right clicked to switch accounts just like Apple
Hello Roelof,
Monday, June 14, 2004, 12:36:04 AM, you wrote:
RO I decided to pour everything into one account just because I didn't
RO need an inbox and outbox for every address, I'm filtering mail for
RO every address into its own folder, where I store the mail threaded.
RO The respective
Hello Bobi,
Saturday, June 12, 2004, 2:30:25 AM, you wrote:
Charles I use PGP 8.0. Which options should I select? I can select options from
Charles within TB, and once again from within the PGP popup.
BJ When you compose your mail, enable Privacy-Enable OpenPGP while disable
Privacy-Enable
Hello Eric,
Saturday, June 12, 2004, 3:48:16 PM, you wrote:
E We've introduced email authentication To help reduce
E abuse of your email service and spam (junk email), we've
E introduced authenticated email sending (known technically
E as 'authenticated SMTP' or 'SMTP server authentication').
E
Hello Roelof,
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 12:06:28 AM, you wrote:
C Australian English, Catalan, Czech, French Canadian, Norwegian (Nynorsk)
C Dutch, Polish, Russian, Hungarian
RO Try to find an older international pack. Somehow Dutch didn't get
RO included in the latest, but it was available in
I'm trying to get the PGP signature as an attachment, but how do I do
that? When I select PGP/MIME TheBat! tells me that there is no
certificate.
--
Regards, Charles.
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
Hello Mary,
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:43:14 PM, you wrote:
MB Last night I re-downloaded v. 2.11.02 and used the second download to
MB re-install The Bat! That did not help. The icons still did not
MB respond.
I tried that also. I'm running that new .3 beta, and the result is the
same.
MB My
I'd like to see /italic/, *bold* and _underlined_ text converted to
its, erm, typographical equivalent. Don't know how to say it but you
probably understand what I'm saying.
--
Regards, Charles.
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL'
Hello rich,
Friday, June 11, 2004, 1:10:16 AM, you wrote:
rg Assume I receive an email. It is in my in-box.
rg I reply to it and then move it to a sub-folder.
rg At some time later I need to see my reply.
rg Is there a way I can select the mssg I replied to and tell it to show
rg me the thread?
Hello M,
Friday, June 11, 2004, 3:59:48 PM, you wrote:
Charles Not trying to hijack the thread, but I think something nice (that's
Charles also related) is if it would be possible to save your reply in the
Charles same folder as the message you're replying to.
MicCullen Which is what Agent lets
Hello Martin,
Saturday, June 12, 2004, 12:35:33 AM, you wrote:
MW On 11 June 2004, 15:04 +0200 (14:04 local time) Charles M. Gerungan
MW [CMG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CMG I'm trying to get the PGP signature as an attachment, but how do I do
CMG that? When I select PGP/MIME TheBat! tells
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