It was a transition for me too, and one that has finally
passed. It seems natural to me now.
Curtis, you really MUST post details of the operation and let us see
photos of the 'new' Curtis :)
Happy Christmas
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ith performance, implementation and stability that I rarely
use the prog these days. For a better discussion of the current state of
IMAP take a deep breath and have a look at TBBETA.
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In all this, it was good to finally get a laugh out of one of the
posts!
Oi! Don't start enjoying yourself here or I'll have to killfile you.
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> So, it is an _alternative_ to something they are already introducing and
which is not at all intuitive or elegant.
But still a new feature.
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e
working properly.
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robably one of the least frustrating bugs
in TB's current IMAP performance. It's probably the same phenomenon
that makes TB so slow at fetching and displaying IMAP messages and
part of the way the protocol is implemented in the prog.
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TheBat!:3.63.06 (Beta)
Windo
to close with my two IMAP
accounts.
Just another example of TB's still rough implementation of IMAP, I
guess.
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TheBat!:3.63.06 (Beta)
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL
these
particular problems!
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've got
OE or Thunderbird on your system you'll see how easy it is to do but I
still don't see why you'd want to do it on a day-to-day basis.
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Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' informa
Additionally, there's nothing preventing you from using filters or
manually copying your messages to local folders. There's your backup.
True. I do archive some of my FastMail folders every few months and
store them on CD.
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kup system than I have!
For me, this is one of the great benefits of IMAP, the other being that
I can access identical mail structures from wherever I happen to be
without a lot of fiddly synchronisation every day.
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Current
quot;
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TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
xx) for the duration of their
testing. I'll just have to log in without TLS or use Mulberry which is
grown-up enough to let me make a decision about whether to accept a
mismatched certificate or not.
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Clive Taylor
TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP
Hello Roelof,
> TB won't do that.
Pity. Have to use Mulberry then.
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TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ad giving all the details:
http://www.emailaddresses.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37897&perpage=15&highlight=&pagenumber=1
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Clive Taylor
TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is
r one issue with TB and IMAP. I just wish Ritlabs
would accept that messages should be flagged as deleted (as Outlook,
Outlook Express, Mulberry etc do) and not just hide them from view.
When I'm using Mulberry I take the opportunity to tidy up deleted
messages - but it shouldn't be necessar
Hello z5worg,
Friday, September 9, 2005, 5:37:09 AM, you wrote:
> How do I need to do to get the messages in the Inbox to display?
Update to the latest version of TB. IMAP has come a long way since v2
and is quite usable now.
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TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP: Service Pac
ted to
give up their valuable TB username and password to a spammer.
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TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
oesn't use it
on web forms etc,
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TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
them to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!
Passwords for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:etc, etc
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Clive Taylor
TheBat!:3.60.07
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello Roy,
Thursday, August 25, 2005, 1:51:48 PM, you wrote:
> How do I get The Bat! to use my local area network?
Right click the account name in the folder tree then:
Properties/network/use account specific network properties - you'll
see the options there.
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> Sometimes (and that refers currently only to some messages on TBOT),
> I switch to the RTV in order to see the smileys
How sad.
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TheBat!:3.51.9
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.51.10 | '
ll
messages in an IMAP folder. Lots of other useful functions, too,
including backup.
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TheBat!:3.51.9
Windows XP: Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
--On 12/06/2005 20:06 +0200 Ralph wrote:
I'm using IMAP with FastMail.FM. Does anybody else experience that
behavior?
I use FastMail and IMAP without this issue. The problem lies with TB.
You'll have to go Folder/Remove duplicates to get rid of the (apparent)
duplicates.
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27; machines when all else fails)
it doesn't offer real time protection UNLESS you have 'application
protection' enabled. There are other anti-trojan progs that do give this by
default though, BOClean and Trojan Hunter spring to mind.
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jokes. More please.
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Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello Andrew,
Friday, May 27, 2005, 12:01:16 AM, you wrote:
> Any ideas?
Sounds like a server problem rather than an issue with TB. Never seen
this reported before :(
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TheBat!:3.5.18
Windows XP: Service Pac
Count me in the "other half" :-) That's why it's not implemented yet and
that's why it will be optional
Oh! I'm the other half to you and I'd really like to see this feature.
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Current version is 3.
ry to post this - let's have a
look at the headers when it appears on the list.
Regards
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Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello Tony,
Monday, May 16, 2005, 9:23:12 PM, you wrote:
> My address books are fine
As is your threading (re our exchange in TBBETA). Wierd.
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Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' info
Hello AJ,
Saturday, May 14, 2005, 9:37:41 PM, you wrote:
> Is it possible for you to come up with a solution?
See the solution here. It worked for me:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Current version is 3.5 | 'Usi
number of threads on TBBETA about this issue at
the moment - but no consensus about why it's happening or how to
resolve it.
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Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
POP access. We look forward to announcing more features as
they become available."
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Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ust fine.
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Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ld try it out and tell me if it works for you...
The bad news is that invoking the email option hangs my system. I
tried three times and had to hard reboot each time. I won't touch that
again!
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Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush
_
here do you find it?
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Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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written in English that
would have two colons following each other like that.
I wouldn't have thought it was that difficult to write a rule to
identify the format - but what do I know?
> This is an old horse, of course, and neither of us wishes to beat it
> to death!
Oh, but I do, M
> But would you really be happier without something to complain about?
Probably not. My wife's taken to calling me Mog, anyway. It's short
for miserable old git.
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Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush
Current version is 3.0.
ting a QT like that, so
> if yours aren't up to it either you have to convince somebody else to
> write it.
Mine neither, sadly
> (Oops, I used a smiley. Sorry)
That's perfectly OK, Roelof. No problem.
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Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush
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ld looks better without them!
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Using TB 3.0.2.2 Rush
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
> Might help to mention that this is Imap on the Fastmail server.
I haven't had this with my IMAP/Fastmail traffic for a few betas now -
and not with this final version at all. It might be worth clearing
your local cache regularly.
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Using TB
> I think this will work.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes it did Michael. Many thanks
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Using TB 3.0.1.33
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
> People with very complicated filters in 2.xx or 1.xx or who Removed
> their old Bat and tried to do a clean install did get into trouble.
As well as a significant number of people who built simple filters
anew in v3, unfortunately, Mary.
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Using TB 3.0.0.15
_
> I got so much S P A M in that account that it went over bandwidth
> limit in less than two weeks EVERY MONTH. I emailed support and they
> shrugged it off. So I cancelled the account.
Ah, so not Fastmail itself, then! You could have tweaked their
excellent SIEVE based filters to have taken care
> I use Fastmail as my main email account and route all my
> domain traffic though it lawlessly
Whoops. I meant flawlessly - no spam from me!
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Using TB 3.0.0.15
Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.
> I tried TB with my fastmail account a while back, and gave up. I
> ended up deleting the fastmail account and stuck to POP3 accounts
> for TB.
Strange. I use Fastmail as my main email account and route all my
domain traffic though it lawlessly. What was the problem you had -
just curious.
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> There is also a memory leak. After the last paragraph I checked my
> usage, which was at about 66mb. Closed it down, and it was about 24mb
> when I re-opened. Right now it's just above 22!
There does appear to be leak. 15 minutes after opening TB at around
14Mb, it's now up to 29Mb peak m
> But I re-think that removing them from original messages wouldn't still
> do anything useful (because of interrupting a "consistency" of the
> original, whichever it can be).
I made the original suggestion somewhat lightheartedly; I recognise
that it would be difficult/impossible to implement.
> The ecstasy's around the corner, and is lurking.
Well, assuming you're talking about smilies and not drugs, that would
be fantastic.
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Nursing the under-developed TB 3.0
Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
h
> ...yeah, of course... blame your incompetence on the poor young little
> program... aren't you ashamed of yourself? :-)
Well, it MUST be me mustn't it. After all, Ritlabs (you know,
professional, listening, caring, competent etc) have released this fine
version after such exhaustive testing they
> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Clive
Leif & Roelof
Sorry about that. I DID trim Allie's post to one para before I sent it
but TB put my
Hello Allie,
Saturday, September 4, 2004, 1:44:44 PM, you wrote:
> Tony, [T] wrote:
>> Add fat graphics, animated stuff, and useless gadgets. IMO TB! made
>> it's 1st step in that direction with the new icons and promise of
>> skins.
>
> You know, I find this interesting.
> The very common n
You know, I'm actually getting the impression that the colons are
already a pretty clear and effective way to indicate them.
And, from a smiley-hater's point of view, colons are quite unobtrusive
if we have to have the wretched things!
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> I'm on a bit of a jihad against the really stupid use of smilies,
LOL, etc.
Wow. Can I join your club please?
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Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
> I am quite sure Ritlabs will consider that fact. A 10 days old user
should not be charged for the upgrade.
You KNOW this do you? After all, as the one beta tester who appears to
have rushed in and bought a new licence, Ritlabs would have thrown a
welcome party for you. (No smiley - I hate the
Hi Peter,
> I'd like a show of hands (Cf. prog rock trio Rush): for how many does
> this actually work?
Not here it doesn't. Can't use TB/IMAP for sending mail at all reliably.
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Using TB 2.11.02
__
Hi Jonathan,
> With the strike through? I've seen it in 2 programs I think.
From my experience this is the standard for - at least - OE, Outlook,
Mulberry, mailservers such as FastMail, servers implementing HORDE such
as MailSnare ...
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Using TB
g with the emails there. TB's implementation is awful.
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Using TB 2.10.01
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi Martin,
> Is there an option to show deleted messages in IMAP folders; i.e.
> display with strikeout text?
No.
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Using TB 2.10.01
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.
27;Forward to'
field, choose whether or not to delete the original from FastMail.FM
using the checkbox, and click 'Add'. Of course, you can choose just a
subset of messages to forward by selecting criteria in the 'Look in' and
'For text matc
> stuff rsn ..
Well, I live with TB and Mulberry daily. I like TB and its features
but, in the area I now need, it just doesn't measure up. I hope it
improves but I have reservations, unfortunately.
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Using TB 2.10.01
___
rding facilities for external mail.
For me, the combination of FastMail and Mulberry, with mail from the odd
POP account I have being collected by FastMail, gives me all the benefits
of IMAP with none of the disadvantages of POP.
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Snare)
that fully supports IMAP.
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I'm using heavily for my domain/IMAP traffic. If only
that prog had some of the nice features of TB I'd die happy.
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Using TB 2.10.01
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi Jonathan,
> TB plus the BFP runs at 19 megs of RAM; SpamBayes (using the same
> training data, more than 3,000 spam and 3,000 ham) uses just 11 megs.
I've just looked at my SpamPal memory usage - just over 6Mb peak memory
usage on a WinXp machine!
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Using
nbox. Works brilliantly with IMAP, too.
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Using TB 2.10.01
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
rum, too. As I recall
there were large numbers of postings scathing about TB's abilities in
that area.
It seems that IMAP is not a priority.
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Using TB 2.10.01
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information
be downloaded here:
http://www.broobles.com/imapsize/
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Using TB 2.10.01
Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi Richard,
> I have to use Outlook at the office, and usually receive receipts when
> requested, but never from home with TB!.
Are your addressees different at home and work? It might be coincidence
that your 'home' recipients are simply ignoring the request for a
receipt.
-
s to the information. Shame really, but I'll
persevere with updating TB in the hope this area improves. What I won't
do though is pay for another upgrade to access a set of features that
don't work!
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Using TB 2.04.7
th it. No more mail collection hangs and good information about what
Spampal's doing.
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Using TB 2.04.7
Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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the
form 2.4.7 OR 2.04.07 - not both as we've got at present!
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Using TB 2.04.7
Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
> Yes and no. The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more
> logical to me. I'm calling this one 07 for now.
I'm with you on this, Marck. The lack of the leading zero in version
numbers is very confusing.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Bill,
> My guess would be an incompatibility with WindowBlinds, but before I
> report it, is any other WindowBlinds user seeing this?
Yes.
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Using TB 2.04.4
Current version is 2.04.04 | "
ning
99 times out of 100 it's a problem 'at the other end'. If your
Internet connection is working but it's only email that's not
functioning the problem is likely to be with your ISP's mail servers.
The key to resolving this probl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Bill,
> NO antivirus program detects all new viruses.
I agree, Bill. My post was a reply to Carstens strange comment that
"NOD32 does not detect new viruses". No more, no less.
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Using TB
Well, what happened there? The first message wouldnt go. TB froze and
I had to ctrl Alt Del. When I sent again, it went twice.
Still, my comments were worth making twice!
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Using TB 2.03 Beta/45
Current version is 2.02.3
etecting viruses and updating itself against new
threats. It's proven - especiall here in the past few days with the
MyDoom worm.
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Clive Taylor
Using TB 2.03 Beta/45
Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" inf
> Anyway ...is there a NOD32 plugin?
Not for v2 and you dont need one anyway, because NOD32 will
intercept infected mail at a system level and, believe me, you WILL
get a notification if theres a virus in your mail!
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Clive Taylor
Using TB 2.03 Beta
Perhaps it might be worthwhile creating a new shortcut and appending
/nologo to it.
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Using TB 2.03 Beta/25
Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Jonathan,
> I think the /nologo should be inside the "" shouldn't it?
No, outside as:
"C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe" /nologo
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Using TB 2.03 Beta/25
Current version
Hi MikeD,
> I can't imagine how Bayesit would interfere with connection ... it
> only filters the email.
Well, I too have experienced the Connectio Center hanging issue but
since uninstalling Bayesit the problem has disappeared.
QED
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Using
Hi Edward,
> I have received a number of suggestions of what the number is. But it
> still is not clear.
The number in square brackets is the number of messages on the IMAP
server read and not marked for deletion thats how I read it, anyhow.
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Using TB
Hi rich,
> Does anyone have a way to extract email addresses from Eudora &
> Pegasus, but not from the address books!!
Mailbag Assistant: http://www.fookes.com/mailbag
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Clive Taylor
Using TB 2.00.18
Current version is 2.00.
> Why these repetitve instructions?!?
Maybe some of us need to be reminded about the list rules constantly.
For example, the message about inserting a sig delimiter doesnt seem
to have reached you yet :(
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Clive Taylor
Using TB 2.00
Hi John,
> Can Bat do this?
Select your text and hit F4.
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Using TB 2.00.18
Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi Samson,
> anyone could show me how to purge server IMAP inbox? thanks!
With focus on the folder you wish to purge, go Folder|Compress.
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Using TB 2.00.18
Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" info
Hi Clive,
> Have you tried running folder|compress on the individual folder (right
> click option)?
Sorry, had a brain slip. Theres no right click option for this.
Instead go folder|compress with the focus on the folder you want to
operate on.
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Using TB
Hi Edward,
> Yet these 59 zombie messages are still shown in inbox folder in The
> Bat! I've run folder maintenance to no avail.
Have you tried running folder|compress on the individual folder (right
click option)?
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Usin
t until the various issues,
some of which you describe here, are resolved (which I'm sure they
will be in due course).
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Using TB 2.00.6
Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi John,
> If you drag across that auto generated address and then "copy"
> it.. then start a new message in Bat and try and paste it into
> the "to" field. it win paste into it
It works here. How are you copying and pasting the address, ctrl+C,
ctrl+v?
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nting though that F11 *does* work. Strange.
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Using TB 2.00.6
Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi Melissa,
> I've set the "Check mail for all" to the single "F3" key. This makes
> it really simple for me
Odd. F3 does nothing from my keyboard yet, from the dropdown menu
(next to the 'get new mail' icon), F3 is there and the command works!
ail containing
these details is open and go to help|registration code.
You'll find the details are filled in for you.
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Using TB 2.00.6
Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
sers, 95% of whom are
on dial-up around here.
I can tell you that it doesn't make a jot of difference how they
connect - the vulnerable ones who contract viruses and worms are those
who don't or won't install or update their AV progs or Windows.
End of story.
-
Hi Anne,
> Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-(
It's not your authorisation details for the news server, is it? That's
the only other area that could be wrong, as far as I can see.
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Hi Peter,
> My ports are 2000 and 2001.
Yes. I'm sure they are, but HERE MyMail won't work other than with
110. It might be a firewall issue (but I don't think so) but it works
as is!
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Clive Taylor
Using TB 2.00.6
Is it possible to change the font for the account logs? I can't find
the option anywhere and the default font is difficult to read here.
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Clive Taylor
Using TB 2.00.6
Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" in
both TB and MyGate (NNTP on 119).
Any other combinations just wouldn't work.
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Using TB 2.00.6
Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
P> Oh, I can't do that here...
Eh?
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Using TB 2.00.6
Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
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