Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-27 Thread Joseph N.
On Sunday, October 26, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in : > Of course, these are not "bugs". They are deliberate design > decisions. Anyone running in so insecure an environment to make this > so called "vulnerability" an issue should consider a more expensive > solution

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-27 Thread Vasiliy Efimenko
Hello Jurgen, On 27 October 2003, at 10:25:40 +0100 you wrote: JH> isn't SecureBat! the Paranoia's choice of email program? I'm not sure that I correct understand what you means but try to ask on this. I think that some people has their some reasons to prevents some information from "st

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-27 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 27, 2003, Martin Webster wrote in : MW> Perhaps plain text editors should encrypt data? Ludicrous! And why MW> encrypt plain text messages to your hard disk when you send them MW> over the Internet without encryption? E-mail (SMTP/POP) is MW> inherently

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-27 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 27, 2003, Martin Webster wrote in : MW> Surely you would change your password(s) before handing your PC MW> to a stranger? And if you can't beforehand, afterwards? Martin, Certainly a good point. I've started using one of those password generators o

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-27 Thread Vishal
Hi Martin Monday, October 27, 2003, 4:48:28 PM, you wrote: JN>> They are two separate issues. A misused password can wreak boundless JN>> havoc for years after the incident. MW> You use one password for everything? This issue is completely separate from the one of a misused password. You can ha

Re[2]: : "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-27 Thread Neal Laugman
Monday, October 27, 2003, 6:28:12 PM, Perry wrote: PN> Hi Joseph, PN> Monday, October 27, 2003, 8:06:17 PM, you wrote: JN>> I've started using one of those password generators on occasion, JN>> because I've about used up all the cute ones I can remember. But JN>> now I need a place to store them

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-28 Thread Barry
Hello Steve, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 1:51:59 AM, you wrote: ST> Hello Joseph, ST> Monday, October 27, 2003, 5:06:17 PM, you wrote: JN>> But now I JN>> need a place to store them, since there's no mnemonic to keep them in JN>> mind. But, of course, the place to store them needs to be encrypte

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-28 Thread Vishal
Hi Martin Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 3:31:13 AM, you wrote: V>> I'm not sure what your point here is..did I miss something in the discussion? MW> Yes, I think so... How? I read the whole thread. Were you talking about the repair scenario? MW>>> Still more probable than a complete stranger sit

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-28 Thread Vishal
Hi Martin Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 1:02:56 PM, you wrote: MW> Yes. If someone has concerns about passwords being compromised while the MW> PC is repaired the simple solution is to change them beforehand. If that MW> isn't possible then change them when it's returned. Actually, both would have

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-29 Thread rich gregory
>>> Anyone running in so insecure an environment to make this >>> so called "vulnerability" an issue ... JN>> the fact JN>> remains that third party access ... is conceivable in any JN>> number of innocent situations, most commonly repair scenarios. MW> ... why encrypt plain text messages ... whe

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

2003-10-29 Thread rich gregory
>> ... add logins to TB! so that family members >> not see each other's ... email M> Options/Network & Administration/Privileges HEY! Wadda ya know! I have no idea HOW to use it but it looks like that's what 'm talkin' about... Is there any kind of encryption of the email files tied to TB!