Re: TheBat! filtered for spam

2002-07-27 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Lynn, On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:09:20 -0700 GMT (27/07/02, 02:09 +0700 GMT), Lynn Turriff wrote: However, I never understood who (apart from spammers) would need the mass mailing feature and am not surprised that Ritlabs apparently linked to spammer sites until recently. LT I subscribe

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-27 Thread PFord
On Friday, July 26, 2002, Thomas wrote: I vote for continuing this thread on TBOT rather than offlist. This thread seems to me to be very on-topic. Not being able to send email to someone is an important problem for TB users. -- PFord The Bat! 1.60h (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-27 Thread PFord
On Friday, July 26, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: Only your poor recipient will be affected by such a move. I'd just change the mailer header until the recipient can sort out the problem by persuading his ISP into changing their policy or moving to another ISP. A recipient not using TB isn't

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-27 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Paula, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:00:27 -0400 GMT (28/07/02, 00:00 +0700 GMT), PFord wrote: P If the X-mailer value is the problem, why doen't RIT Labs just remove P it? Isn't it optional in a header? Yes, X-Mailer is optional. All X-headers are optional, and most other MUA-generated ones as

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-27 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas, on Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:30:19 +0700GMT (27.07.02, 19:30 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TF Actually, what I am currently thinking is that the functionality of TF Xray should be integrated into TB. - Is that feasible? Hmm. Might be. Very good

Re[2]: TheBat! filtered for spam

2002-07-27 Thread Lynn Turriff
Saturday, July 27, 2002, 4:02:54 AM, you wrote: TF Thanks to you and all the people that have given examples of how TF they TF use the mass mailing feature without being spammers. I've TF learned that TF there is quite a legitimate use for the feature. I might even TF look TF into it myself.

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @26 July 2002, 15:56 -0500 (21:56 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Greg Strong: Now I'll probably get flamed. Just stating my own humble opinion. :) JA No flame from me ;) moderator Ah, but one from

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-22 Thread Adam Rykala
Quoting Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Douglas, @21 July 2002, 16:59 -0500 (22:59 UK time) Douglas Hinds [DH] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Carren Stuart: CS I have never received *any* spam from anyone

TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Alberto Almagioni
The problem seems to be bigger than I supposed. Some of the italian user are looking around to finde any indication abut filteringg TheBat! For the moment one of them find this: http://www.kr.freebsd.org/internal/spam/header_checks If I understood exactly this is the spam filter

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Rykala
Hi Alberto, On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, at 23:12:34 [GMT +0200] (22:12 where I live) you wrote: AA The problem seems to be bigger than I supposed. AA Some of the italian user are looking around to finde any indication AA abut filteringg TheBat! AA For the moment one of them find this: AA

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Carren Stuart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 22 July 2002 at 9:12 a.m. Alberto wrote: AA The problem seems to be bigger than I supposed. AA Some of the italian user are looking around to finde any AA indication abut filteringg TheBat! For the moment one of them find AA this: AA

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Rykala
Hi Carren, On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, at 09:15:27 [GMT +1200] (22:15 where I live) you wrote: CS I can't believe this! This kind of filtering on email client is CS ridiculous. Geez even those of us who think OE is the pits, don't CS stoop to these levels! CS I have never

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Alberto Almagioni
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:17:47 +0100GMT (21/07/2002, 23.17 +0100GMT), Adam Rykala wrote: AA If I understood exactly this is the spam filter policy of a korean AA user group. Oh the irony.. :-) The only good think is that if we know the problem we can solve: is not

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Alberto Almagioni
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:24:56 +0100GMT (21/07/2002, 23.24 +0100GMT), Adam Rykala wrote: Well I haven't had a single message bounced or refused yet while using the Bat and I've got a few thousand under my belt. The fact that the rest of us haven't noticed before is proof enough of the

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Douglas, @21 July 2002, 16:59 -0500 (22:59 UK time) Douglas Hinds [DH] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Carren Stuart: CS I have never received *any* spam from anyone using TB! DH I have. You should all (not just Douglas)

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Carren Stuart, In Reference to your Posting on Sunday, July 21 2002 at 02:15 PM PDT, I can't believe this! This kind of filtering on email client is ridiculous. Geez even those of us who think OE is the pits, don't stoop to these levels! It is probably because TB has the Mass

Re[3]: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Carren Stuart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 22 July 2002 at 9:59 a.m. Douglas wrote: CS I have never received *any* spam from anyone using TB! DH I have. CS and I can't imagine that anyone using it would use it for CS spamming purposes. DH A better class of spammer, no doubt.

Re[2]: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread N. Sean Timm
Sunday, July 21, 2002, 3:38:03 PM, Alberto wrote: AA :-) AA The only good think is that if we know the problem we can solve: is AA not possible to contact every ISP and ML service to avoid TheBat! AA filtering but as we know that some of them use this stupid policy we AA can understand why one

Re[3]: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Art Moore
On Sunday, July 21, 2002, 5:10:59 PM, N. Sean Timm wrote: NST Since we can't eliminate all of the stupid people, this just means we NST need a new feature from The Bat!...X-Mailer header modification... :) No... just a good hex editor?;-) Artmailto:[EMAIL

Re[2]: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Carren, On Sunday, July 21, 2002, 4:15:27 PM, you wrote: CS I have never received *any* spam from anyone using TB! I have. CS and I can't imagine that anyone using it would use it for CS spamming purposes. A better class of spammer, no doubt. DH

Re[2]: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Marck, Marck wrote: MDP ... I've seen spam come through with The Bat! (1.52f) MDP Business as the X-Mailer and an X-MS-Priority header. *Is* there a TB! Business version? I DO recall seeing that on the spam I saw with TB! mentioned as the mailer in the header. MDP Advanced Mass Sender

Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Douglas, @22 July 2002, 19:25 -0500 (01:25 UK time) Douglas Hinds [DH] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP ... I've seen spam come through with The Bat! (1.52f) Business MDP as the X-Mailer and an

Re[2]: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Marck, you wrote: MDP If you get a spam that has this header: MDP X-Mailer: The Bat! (1.52f) Business MDP it, incongruously will also have an X-MS-Priority header. TB only MDP uses X-Priority. Only six of the 21 spam messages lack X-MSMail-Priority and none of them are hard core spam.

Re[3]: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-21 Thread Lynn Turriff
Sunday, July 21, 2002, 6:34:34 PM, you wrote: DH Only six of the 21 spam messages lack X-MSMail-Priority and none DH of DH them are hard core spam. They're spam for insurance or vacations DH or DH something equally innocuous. The nastiest ones all have the DH X-MSMail-Priority or