Re: [tcpinc] [tcpm] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpinc-tcpeno

2017-02-06 Thread Joe Touch
On 2/4/2017 10:57 PM, Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE) wrote: > [CCing TCPM for the part that matters to TCPM] > >> 4. citing drafts in support of future large SYN options: >> “Is there harm in doing this? E.g., is it bad practice to cite internet >> drafts (non-normatively, of course) in an RFC?” >

Re: [tcpinc] [tcpm] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpinc-tcpeno

2017-02-06 Thread Joe Touch
FWIW: On 2/5/2017 5:26 AM, David Mazieres wrote: > "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)" writes: > >> While TCPM discusses large SYN options (for a long time already), all >> known solutions have downsides. I do not believe that a non-TCPM >> document should speculate on the feasibility solutions. > Mi

Re: [tcpinc] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpinc-tcpeno

2017-02-06 Thread Holland, Jake
On 2/4/17, 11:40 AM, "David Mazieres" wrote: > Achieving stronger security with TCP-ENO requires verifying session > IDs. Any application relying on ENO for communications security MUST > incorporate session IDs into its endpoint authentication. By way of > example, an authentication mec

Re: [tcpinc] [tcpm] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpinc-tcpeno

2017-02-06 Thread Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)
I'd agree to Joe's proposal "Although this protocol could benefit from extended SYN space, e.g., to support in-band key coordination, future TEPs should expect to use only the currently available space." Michael (chair hat off) From: Joe Touch Sent: Mon