Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-14 Thread David Walker
At the sake of running out of internet here's a little clarification ... ... this ... -> input channela channela output -> -> input channelb channelb output -> -> input channelc channelc output -> -> input channeld channeld output -> -> input groupA (a&b) groupA (a&b) output -> -> input groupB (c

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-14 Thread David Walker
Hi. Sviatoslav Chagaev <0x1392 () gmail ! com> > I have absolutely no idea. I'm not an audio equipment manufacturer. I have used many consoles ... digital and analogue ones ... "live" and in studios. I also have an electronics background - digital and analogue ... and repaired many consoles. I've

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-14 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 07:02:21PM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > I always thought that the idea behind the *ctl programs is to provide a > way to configure totally different things in a similar manner. > Therefore *ctl programs should behave as similarily as possible. so where is your diff t

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-14 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 07:29:01PM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > On Mon, 9 May 2011 12:44:54 + > Jacob Meuser wrote: > > ok then, why do some devices have 'outputs.dac' yet others have > > 'inputs.dac'? what is the difference to the user? which is more > > correct? why? > > > > I ha

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-14 Thread Sviatoslav Chagaev
On Mon, 9 May 2011 12:44:54 + Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:56:28PM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Jacob Meuser > > wrote: > > > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:32:49AM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > > >> * sorted output looks cleaner,

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-14 Thread Sviatoslav Chagaev
On Mon, 9 May 2011 14:55:36 +0200 Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:56:28PM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Jacob Meuser > > wrote: > > > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:32:49AM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > > >> * sorted output looks clea

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-09 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:56:28PM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Jacob Meuser > wrote: > > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:32:49AM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > >> * sorted output looks cleaner, prettier; > >> * it's easier to find the variable you're looking f

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:56:28PM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Jacob Meuser > wrote: > > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:32:49AM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > >> * sorted output looks cleaner, prettier; > >> * it's easier to find the variable you're looking f

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-09 Thread Sviatoslav Chagaev
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda wrote: > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Sviatoslav Chagaev > wrote: > ... > Am I missing something? > > $ sysctl | sort > /tmp/sysctl_sorted > $ sysctl | cmp -s /tmp/sysctl_sorted /dev/stdin || echo "different"; > different > $ > At t

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-09 Thread Sviatoslav Chagaev
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:32:49AM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: >> * sorted output looks cleaner, prettier; >> * it's easier to find the variable you're looking for in a sorted >> output; >> * hierarchical variable names yet unordered? does

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-08 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 01:32:49AM +0300, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > * sorted output looks cleaner, prettier; > * it's easier to find the variable you're looking for in a sorted > output; > * hierarchical variable names yet unordered? doesn't make sense; > * this way mixerctl's behaviour will be c

Re: mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-08 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Sviatoslav Chagaev wrote: > * sorted output looks cleaner, prettier; > * it's easier to find the variable you're looking for in a sorted > output; > * hierarchical variable names yet unordered? doesn't make sense; > * this way mixerctl's behaviour will be closer to

mixerctl(1) diff: sort output

2011-05-08 Thread Sviatoslav Chagaev
* sorted output looks cleaner, prettier; * it's easier to find the variable you're looking for in a sorted output; * hierarchical variable names yet unordered? doesn't make sense; * this way mixerctl's behaviour will be closer to other *ctl programs which output variables in an ordered fashion (aud