Re: FYI: switch of default Launchpad VCS to git

2018-10-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 10/05/2018 06:21 AM, Robie Basak wrote: > Now that we have experimental "git-ubuntu" git repositories available > for most packages in main, we (the server/git-ubuntu team) will be > switching the default VCS for the Launchpad "ubuntu" distribution over > to git. Wow! This is a milestone worth

Re: Please clarify: SRU team accepting NEW?

2017-02-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I think for NEW packages the best default position is now "strictly confined snap". That way, we don't impose paperwork on upstreams or community members, and we enable upstreams to ship the versions they think are best for their users, while minimising changes in the base. For updates to

Re: Application for official community flavour status for budgie-remix

2016-06-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 08/06/16 04:26, David Mohammed wrote: > Thank you Steve, > > the key package budgie-desktop I have submitted to Debian. Its been > through a couple of reviews but unfortunately I haven't found a debian > mentor to help take the package through into Sid :( > > > Will try as recommended with

Re: Application for official community flavour status for budgie-remix

2016-06-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi David Thank you for making this request, I'm very encouraged by your desire to be an official flavor. As Steve has outlined, the first step would be to maintain the packages for Budgie as part of Ubuntu. We can help arrange upload permissions to your teams so that they can do that efficiently,

Re: TB election in progress

2016-04-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 15/04/16 17:08, Adam Conrad wrote: > In a TB meeting earlier this year[1], the current TB voted to reduce > the number of non-sabdfl seats from 6 to 5. The rationale for this is > to avoid deadlocked votes. One could argue that Mark exists as a > permanent TB member to break deadlocks, but

Nominations to the Tech Board

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi folks The nominations for Ubuntu Technical Board are, in no particular order: Ben Collins Kees Cook Steve Langasek Jason de Rose Marc Deslauriers Adam Conrad Stéphane Graber Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre Didier Roche Paul Sladen Sebastien Bacher Robie Basak We are very fortunate to have such an

Re: Proposal to help CC with potential conflicts of interest

2015-06-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 09/06/15 17:06, Martin Pitt wrote: I think this is a very sensible approach and avoids inventing further boards and procedures. The only remark that I have is that if such a case occurs, I'd rather discuss it privately first than in the public and logged IRC meeting. The CC has a private

Re: MAAS 1.7

2014-10-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi Rastin That server should have at least one interface connected to a LAN which has no DHCP/DNS and all the machines you want to drive through MAAS, and it should be able to ping the IPMI / AMT BMCs for those machines. If you're on Trusty, from memory the install should be something like:

Re: Ubuntu MATE Remix is seeking official flavor status

2014-07-22 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 22/07/14 18:55, Kees Cook wrote: As a side note, what would it take for MATE to be available from a PPA for trusty? Currently the trusty MATE story isn't very good (unsigned external repo). A built-from-source Trusty PPA would be a good start, with built-from-universe-archive-source for

Re: MRE request: mariadb-5.5

2014-04-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 26/04/14 13:40, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: As the packager of MariaDB in Debian and I intend to update the packages to include the micro releases as soon as upstream releases them. In the packaging process I automatically build and run build tests for both Debian and Ubuntu in parallel. This is

Matters approaching

2014-03-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Dear Tech Board Our current phone images have pioneered some new approaches to delivering both system software (image-based updates) and applications (click packages). The folks driving that work have solved some really thorny problems and the results feel great on the phone - I look forward to

Re: MRE request: mysql-5.5

2014-03-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 08/03/14 23:55, Adam Conrad wrote: The biggest issue is the client library version, which is linked in to a mess of stuff, and one needs to be very careful when having two around to make sure things are sane. This seems to be worth digging into, whether it's at the package level (conflicts)

Re: MRE request: mysql-5.5

2014-03-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 08/03/14 10:57, Adam Conrad wrote: If the argument is customers might want it! then we need to accept that we should also be *maintaining* it, and if we're going that way, we should be looking at switching wholesale, so we're not maintaining two versions. We've seen that for some

Re: [MRE] Iscsitarget 1.4.20.3+svn490 into Precise

2013-12-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
If this is a single-use MRE, and it's saucy-to-precise so that we can use a saucy kernel in precise, and it's been reviewed for new-code-ness, then it's already cross a fairly high bar. Is it reasonable to suggest a longer-than-usual gestation in -proposed? Mark signature.asc Description:

Re: SRU Request for Heat and Ceilometer

2013-10-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Given that I just saw a flood of TB membership expirations, I think I may have quorum for a sneaky +1 ;) On 08/10/13 15:34, Chuck Short wrote: Last cyle, the TB added a provisional micro release exception for both Cinder and Neutron. Since then two additional projects have been added, this is

Re: Tech Board nominations and elections due in a month

2013-09-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi Martin et al, yes, I think that would be a good process. I'd be happiest to start with a list of suggestions from the current TB. A good idea would be to maintain good cross-visibility with Debian, I think. Mark On 02/09/13 21:16, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello Mark, the current Tech Board

Re: Giving upload rights to non-Ubuntu members

2013-07-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 23/07/13 23:36, Iain Lane wrote: I'm not sure what additional/different quality control would be necessary. Is your concern that by not being Ubuntu members these folk don't have skin in the game and therefore might be less careful in their work in Ubuntu? I think that a necessary component

Re: Giving upload rights to non-Ubuntu members

2013-07-22 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Just a note of support for this from my perspective (and if desired, can raise with the wider CC). In most areas of Ubuntu folks can participate directly before taking on membership, it's healthy to have an onramp for contributions with membership as a destination. Would leave it to the TB to

Updated release management straw man for TB consideration

2013-03-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
TB, Am writing to ask you to weigh in on an updated release management proposal. Details are on Planet Ubuntu, salient portion of the proposal is: Updated Ubuntu Release Management proposal In order to go even faster as the leading free software platform, meet the needs of both our

Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME

2013-03-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 03/04/2013 10:14 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Thanks all for the meeting today. One thing we didn't discuss was whether we could use the name 'Ubuntu GNOME Edition'. Ubuntu GNOME Remix would be more on-target. We're trying to avoid Editions :) Mark -- technical-board mailing list

Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME

2013-02-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
A quick note to voice support for this flavour. We (Canonical) have felt the need to lead on a number of platform fronts, and that has placed a degree of stress on flavours that need to keep up with changes in infrastructure at the platform level. I think it's important to enable teams that care

Re: Flavor Review Request of UbuntuKylin

2013-02-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/18/2013 01:48 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Hi! I'm not a member of the Tech Board but I hope you won't mind me asking one question that I've had since the first I've heard of the Ubuntu Kylin project. How does this differ from Ubuntu Chinese Edition? (Although I guess the fact that I'm having

Re: Flavor Review Request of UbuntuKylin

2013-02-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/18/2013 02:31 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, February 18, 2013 01:54:44 PM Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 02/18/2013 01:48 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Hi! I'm not a member of the Tech Board but I hope you won't mind me asking one question that I've had since the first I've heard

Re: Flavor Review Request of UbuntuKylin

2013-02-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/18/2013 04:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: When you say We have a formal relationship with the Kylin team, who is We, what is the nature of the relationship, and (because it appears to then be relevant), what is this Kylin team? 'We' is Canonical in this context. The relationship is

Re: Flavor Review Request of UbuntuKylin

2013-02-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/18/2013 08:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: My concern is more specifically about if the product will, like existing Ubuntu flavors, be designed to protect the privacy and security of the user and that it be shipped in China with the same content as elsewhere in the world. Yes, our

Re: Role of the Chair on the Tech Board?

2012-05-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Yes, we do have escalation mechanisms, and having the chair act as a tiebreaker only to have the decision escalated would be demoralising for the tiebreaker (we could of course get better about declining to review decisions if on the face of them they were properly made). After discussing this

Re: Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi Alan Thanks for the insights, it's good to see what different people would look for in a business remix. I'll comment in detail below, but would also say that the choices in this remix were informed based on a review of what sysadmins are doing in practice. As ever, it's an average and so

Re: Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
the realisation that we could figure out how to enable non-Canonical participation in the packaging and maintenance of that archive. What other ideas? Mark On 01/02/12 23:17, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:02:26PM +, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 31/01/12 09:55, Alan Bell wrote: * Stuff

Re: Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-01-31 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 31/01/12 09:27, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote: software to be 'part of Ubuntu'? From my perspective: * it would need to be exposed in the software center * it would need a counterparty to a VMWare distribution agreement, * it would need to be packaged to a high standard,

Re: Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-01-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
As a very positive outcome from this, we could ask the team responsible for Partner to articulate the standards to which they hold work that goes into that archive. If it's in any way sub-par for reasons that are not forced by the ISV, we can raise the game. I would not want anyone to feel that

Re: Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-01-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 25/01/12 17:28, Iain Lane wrote: This is where we have problems. As far as Ubuntu developers are concerned, these packages are very much not as much of a part of Ubuntu as the rest of the archive. Which Ubuntu developers? Please avoid a simplistic us-and-them response ;-) They live on

Re: Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-01-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 29/01/12 18:38, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Mark, you were surprised that a significant number of developers don't consider the partner repository part of Ubuntu. In addition to what Laney has pointed out, /etc/apt/sources.list has for years said: ## Uncomment the following two lines to add

Re: Mesa floting point patent enquiry - continued

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On the basis that apps would not need to be recompiled if this needs to be changed later, I still support enabling the functionality. Mark -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board

Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi folk Allison made me aware of an off-list discussion amongst the TB regarding the Business Remix. Here's an update from my perspective, and to avoid further confusion please keep me and/or the CC in the loop on similar conversations in future. * The work has been done as a remix

Re: Harmonizing DMB membership expiring dates

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 20/01/12 05:40, Martin Pitt wrote: While it technically does not match the letter of what people voted on, I can't imagine anyone seriously complaining. Let's not be overly bureaucratic here, IMHO :-) Let's see what the other TB members think. +1, polling is confirmation of the nomination,

Fwd: Build-in DNS cache support

2011-12-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Any merit to this suggestion? Original Message Subject:Build-in DNS cache support Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 06:51:24 - From: xiangxw 963632...@qq.com Reply-To: xiangxw 963632...@qq.com To: Mark Shuttleworth m...@canonical.com As far as I know, Ubuntu

Re: Ubuntu support for virtualization

2011-11-10 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 10/11/11 16:53, Bodhi Zazen wrote: I would say that although LXC is an up and coming technology, LXC has a number of issues not the least of which isolation of guest from host is sub optimal. Bodhi, my take is that LXC is clearly headed to container-of-choice status, with AppArmor helping

Re: Streamlining package set management

2011-11-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 06/11/11 23:36, Micah Gersten wrote: Can the upload processing system handle multiple uploaders/teams? If so, then the DMB also has the option of compositing teams. I say this because we've generally found it's better to have an ACL than to try and construct a new team every time you want

Re: Patent enquiry - mesa floating point buffer support

2011-10-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
If the patent-holder has expressed a view that the mesa code is infringing, or raises the matter with us directly, we can adjust. For now, it's reasonable for us to enable the option. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- technical-board mailing list

Re: [nore...@launchpad.net: Your membership in techboard is about to expire]

2011-08-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Colin and others gave me a heads-up on upcoming expirations of tech board positions. Time has flown by! I think (Daniel will correct me) that the right way is to call for nominations or applications. I'd be delighted to re-nominate any current members, I think we have a very functional team

Re: MicroReleaseException for Banshee SRUs

2011-06-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
+1 from me! -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board

Re: Principia / DevOps / leadership and governance

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 29/05/11 09:11, Matthew East wrote: My concern would be that it is unusual to create a council before an established community is in place. We have traditionally looked for a community to evolve, set in place some established procedures, and grow to a decent level before appointing a

Re: Principia / DevOps / leadership and governance

2011-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 27/05/11 19:34, Dustin Kirkland wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: ... I would be happy for this group to be accountable to the TB on technical matters, though I think this group should also be able to grant Ubuntu membership to contributors

Re: Ubuntu renaming FFmpeg to libav

2011-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks Reinhard, that's very useful background. Mark -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board

Re: Principia / DevOps / leadership and governance

2011-05-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 29/05/11 09:18, Matthew East wrote: On 29 May 2011 08:03, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: The Council serves a number of purposes: * it highlights a core group who can set policy for the whole work * it provides a forums for debate and discussion, with resolution (i.e

Principia / DevOps / leadership and governance

2011-05-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi folks I'd like to propose a leadership and governance structure for Principia, our collection of Ensemble formulas. By way of background, Ensemble is a tool for deploying workloads in the cloud. It allows you to see what workloads you are currently running, and it handles dependencies between

Re: bzr maverick srus now qa'd

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
+1 from me. On 18/05/11 13:26, Martin Pool wrote: Elsewhere, on 26 April 2011 08:13, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello Martin, Martin Pool [2011-04-21 18:48 +1000]: On the whole I'm not sure [manually verifying all SRU bugs in bzr] was a good use of time: I think we tend to

Re: Status of Lubuntu

2011-04-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi Julien Thanks for writing to us and for the great work and progress of Lubuntu in the past 2 years. The fact that you are now 100% in the archive, and using PPA's and other tools effectively, makes it possible for us to consider recognising Lubuntu as an official part of the project. On

Re: Follow up on Default Desktop Experinece for 11.04

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 13/04/11 22:14, Martin Pitt wrote: Regarding systray support: But I want to point out that this is in no way a technical problem, it's purely a design decision. The systray icons have major usability problems, which can't be worked around. We simply won't move people forward unless we draw

Re: Ubuntu renaming FFmpeg to libav

2011-04-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Hi Michael Thanks for raising this with us. I've copied the Technical Board as I think they are the right body to take a position on the matter. They will certainly want to hear frmo those behind libav as well. Mark On 07/04/11 18:55, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi Mark Iam the main

Re: [Bug 723831] Re: Installer– The option to 'install third-party software' when installing Ubuntu should be selected by default (aka make Youtube work)

2011-03-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks all for the consideration, and I concur. Mark -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Technical Board, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/723831 Title: Installer – The option to 'install third-party software' when installing

Re: Next meeting

2011-01-24 Thread Claire Newman for Mark Shuttleworth
Unfortunately Mark will not be able to make it either. Thanks, Claire Matt Zimmerman wrote: The next meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, but the agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda hasn't been updated since the last meeting. Who is chairing? I won't be able to make it, but

Re: Request for extension of expiring DMB terms

2011-01-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 23/01/11 11:18, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:05:58PM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: Emmet Hikory [2011-01-19 22:59 +0900]: The terms of six of the seven members of the Developer Membership Board expire on the 20th of January, meaning the following meetings will be

Re: Request for Seamonkey update exception

2011-01-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 23/01/11 20:36, Micah Gersten wrote: We've been updating Seamonkey through the security pocket, but I noticed that it does not have an official Micro release exception [1]. I wanted to officially request this since it has the same issues with patch backporting as Firefox, Thunderbird, and