Re: Getting harder and harder to debug startup probs

2012-02-13 Thread Matthias Runge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/02/12 23:32, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Is it just me, or is it getting harder and harder to debug Fedora startup problems? We'll see if an old dog can learn new tricks... More general: If you're hit by some bug, you get lost; nowadays

Re: Getting harder and harder to debug startup probs

2012-02-13 Thread M A Young
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012, Matthias Runge wrote: More general: If you're hit by some bug, you get lost; nowadays sooner than later. I can't count, how many times I had some error getting X up (or even system up) since the move to systemd. Next sad thing is, it isn't reproducible every time. Since

Re: Installation interfaces criterion proposal

2012-02-13 Thread Petr Schindler
Because nobody had any objections, I've added new criterion to [1] and I've changed release level of [2] to final. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_User_Interface_Cmdline On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 09:55 -0800,

Re: New criterion for Checksum

2012-02-13 Thread Petr Schindler
If you have some objection on this one, please, let me know till tomorrow, otherwise if there are no suggestions I'll make changes. On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 11:40 +0100, Petr Schindler wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 10:23 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 07:48 -0500, Petr

Re: Change of release level of Mediakit ISO Size test case

2012-02-13 Thread Petr Schindler
OK, it looks like discussion ended, so I've moved [1] to beta release level in [2] [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Mediakit_ISO_Size [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_17_Install_Results_Template On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 08:35 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed,

mdraid with encrypted fs

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I installed a system fresh with Fedora 15 when it was released. I configured the file system to have root on a software RAID 1 and then encrypted the ext4 file system inside of the raid. I tried to upgrade to F16 a few days ago and ran into an Anaconda bug[1]. Is my particular use-case

Re: mdraid with encrypted fs

2012-02-13 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 08:55:11AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: In regards to the bug, am I stuck doing a yum upgrade or is there a possible workaround to use preupgrade? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753421 Just guessing here but if you are using preupgrade then you

Re: GType is actually GFlags

2012-02-13 Thread FRank Murphy
On 11/02/12 01:03, Rob Healey wrote: Greetings: Ever since upgrading from F16 to F17 now to Rawhide, I have been getting this warning message, and I am NOT sure if anyone else is too? Is this on the radar of Fedora yet, and if yes, is there a workaround of not? -- Sincerely yours, Rob G.

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:59 PM, David Lehman dleh...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the worse with regard to installing GRUB to a partition's primary sector. Partitioning hasn't

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:59 -0500, David Lehman wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the worse with regard to

Re: Proposal for enhancement of criterion

2012-02-13 Thread Petr Schindler
Because there was no suggestions, I've made changes. [1] is non-blockig now. And I have amended criterion in [2]. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_remote_system [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria On Tue, 2012-01-31 at

Re: Proposal for removing Boot method efidisk test case

2012-02-13 Thread Petr Schindler
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 16:47 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 11:33 -0500, Petr Schindler wrote: I propose to remove [1] test case as we don't need it anymore. EFI booting is handled by regular image. [1]

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:16 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: I did Fedora 16 Respin iso install with all latest packages, including latest Anaconda package, and still had this issue. There were two ntfs partitions (Windows 7 +

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 17:21 +0100, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: This is a really mayor but and I don't understand it why it fails when I tried grub2-install --force then grub installs without issues :( This should have been a blocker Fedora bug. anaconda already uses grub2-install

[Test-Announce] Proven tester status

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
Just wanted to make note of the current status of proven testers. As decided by FESCo late last year, proven tester feedback now has exactly the same status as non-proven tester feedback, effectively rendering it pointless to be a proven tester. I have added a note about this to the proven tester

Re: Getting harder and harder to debug startup probs

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 10:59 +, M A Young wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012, Matthias Runge wrote: More general: If you're hit by some bug, you get lost; nowadays sooner than later. I can't count, how many times I had some error getting X up (or even system up) since the move to systemd.

Re: [Test-Announce] Proven tester status

2012-02-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 18:20:38 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: As noted there, and as discussed at meetings and with FESCo, I'm hopeful we'll be able to make use of proven tester status again once Bodhi 2.0 hits. Therefore I don't think we should take down all the

Re: mdraid with encrypted fs

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 08:55 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: I installed a system fresh with Fedora 15 when it was released. I configured the file system to have root on a software RAID 1 and then encrypted the ext4 file system inside of the raid. I tried to upgrade to F16 a few days ago

Re: Getting harder and harder to debug startup probs

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 18:30 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 10:59 +, M A Young wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012, Matthias Runge wrote: More general: If you're hit by some bug, you get lost; nowadays sooner than later. I can't count, how many times I had some

Re: mdraid with encrypted fs

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/13/2012 08:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I'd suggest that this is 'supported' in terms of the release criteria, under the Final criterion The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration,

Re: mdraid with encrypted fs

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 21:04 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 02/13/2012 08:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I'd suggest that this is 'supported' in terms of the release criteria, under the Final criterion The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout

Re: mdraid with encrypted fs

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/13/2012 09:13 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Yes - it has, what, a hundred or so tests? Most of those could be combined with at least one of the others...you don't need to be able to do the math very precisely to realize that we can't, practically speaking, have a test case for*every possible