On 11/09/2012 07:49 AM, Matthias Runge wrote:
On 11/09/2012 01:01 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
In today's age it's become more common to just run GNU/Linux in a vm
since more or less all hw you buy this day has a virtual capable cpu
instead of jumping through the partitioning hoops and lo
On 11/09/2012 09:49 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
But as has been pointed out why aren't we testing and ensuring that
Fedora runs well in vmware,hyperv and virtualbox since we ensure it
works well being dualbooted alongside windows?
JBG
OK, agreed. It seems common, to run Fedora also in a
On 11/09/2012 09:01 AM, Matthias Runge wrote:
On 11/09/2012 09:49 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
But as has been pointed out why aren't we testing and ensuring that
Fedora runs well in vmware,hyperv and virtualbox since we ensure it
works well being dualbooted alongside windows?
JBG
OK, a
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:31:47AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >But: Which environments do we take into account? Carry this to
> >extremes: We also need to look at cloud infrastructure envs, which
> >are a special case of virtualization
> The cloud community seems to be taking care
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On 11/09/2012 01:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:31:47AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
But: Which environments do we take into account? Carry this to
extremes: We also need to look at cloud infrastructure envs, which
are a special case of virtualization
The c
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 03:04:48PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> afaik we dont have any criteria that specifically deals with cloud bits
Final criterion #13.
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#322: New release criterion: no X libs in the minimal install set
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On 11/09/2012 03:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 03:04:48PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
afaik we dont have any criteria that specifically deals with cloud bits
Final criterion #13.
Interesting which cloud access does QA have to actually test this stuff?
Btw la
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 03:31:23PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Btw last time I check the cloud solution being deployed rank this...
Where were you checking?
> 1.VMware
> 2 Xen
> 3.KVM
> 4.HyperV
These are virtualization technologies, which are fundamental to cloud but
not in themselv
On 11/09/2012 03:52 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 03:31:23PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Btw last time I check the cloud solution being deployed rank this...
Where were you checking?
Inhouse Gartner document which seems to be inline with the recent cloud
survey
Hi,
if logging in on some tty, I always get the warnings:
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en.UTF-8): No
such file or directory
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_COLLATE: cannot change locale (en.UTF-8):
No such file or directory
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_MESSAGES: canno
On 11/09/2012 04:49 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi,
if logging in on some tty, I always get the warnings:
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en.UTF-8): No
such file or directory
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_COLLATE: cannot change locale (en.UTF-8):
No such file or directo
On 11/8/12 7:17 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hi folks,
My f18 system doesn't pull up a login screen on boot. It just waits.
Restarting the gdm.service from a virtual terminal gets it up though,
but I need to this at every boot now.
Here's the gdm.service status when it didn't come up:
http://paste.st
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 08:49:19AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> I was saying today it's more common that people use vm ( In both
> direction linux in vm on windows and windows in vm on linux )
> instead of dualbooting.
Just out of curiosity. Do you have some real data to back up thi
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
8
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-17376/seamonkey-2.13.2-1.fc16
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14452/bacula-5.0.3-33.fc16
8
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-
On 11/09/2012 06:04 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 04:49 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> if logging in on some tty, I always get the warnings:
>>
>> -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en.UTF-8): No
>> such file or directory
>> -bash: warning: setlo
On 11/09/2012 05:30 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 08:49:19AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
>I was saying today it's more common that people use vm ( In both
>direction linux in vm on windows and windows in vm on linux )
>instead of dualbooting.
Just out of curio
> > You must be exporting it somewhere check .bash_profile
> etc for
> > "en.UTF-8" ( which probably is supposed to be
> "en_US.utf8" )
>
> No, not in my homedir. But found in /etc/locale.conf and in
> /etc/sysconfig/i18
>
run localectl
('localectl list-locales' lists all valid locales)
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:16:24PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 05:30 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 08:49:19AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I was saying today it's more common that people use vm ( In both
> >>>direction linux in
Just did a test kickstart install of F18. Used the "@libreoffice" group for
package selection, but I didn't get libreoffice-langpack-en installed. Anyone
know why?
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On 11/09/2012 07:35 PM, Sergio wrote:
>
>>> You must be exporting it somewhere check .bash_profile
>> etc for
>>> "en.UTF-8" ( which probably is supposed to be
>> "en_US.utf8" )
>>
>> No, not in my homedir. But found in /etc/locale.conf and in
>> /etc/sysconfig/i18
>>
>
> run localectl
>
> ('lo
On 11/09/2012 06:40 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:16:24PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 11/09/2012 05:30 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 08:49:19AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I was saying today it's more common that people us
Orion Poplawski (or...@cora.nwra.com) said:
> Just did a test kickstart install of F18. Used the "@libreoffice"
> group for package selection, but I didn't get
> libreoffice-langpack-en installed. Anyone know why?
What version of anaconda & lorax were in the tree you installed from?
(This just
Smolt is also being retired:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
The stats also have not been updated in quite a while.
I'd take any data from smolt with a block of salt.
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On 11/09/2012 07:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Smolt is also being retired:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
The stats also have not been updated in quite a while.
I'd take any data from smolt with a block of salt.
Well those numbers show clear dominance in vbox and vmware on the
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 07:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>
>> Smolt is also being retired:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
>>
>> The stats also have not been updated in quite a while.
>>
>> I'd take any data from smolt with
On 11/09/2012 07:24 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
On 11/09/2012 07:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Smolt is also being retired:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
The stats also have not been updated in quite a while.
I'd take an
On 11/09/2012 12:00 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Orion Poplawski (or...@cora.nwra.com) said:
Just did a test kickstart install of F18. Used the "@libreoffice"
group for package selection, but I didn't get
libreoffice-langpack-en installed. Anyone know why?
What version of anaconda & lorax were
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 07:24 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/09/2012 07:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Smolt is also being retired:
https://fedoraproj
Orion Poplawski (or...@cora.nwra.com) said:
> On 11/09/2012 12:00 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >Orion Poplawski (or...@cora.nwra.com) said:
> >>Just did a test kickstart install of F18. Used the "@libreoffice"
> >>group for package selection, but I didn't get
> >>libreoffice-langpack-en installed
On 11/09/2012 12:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 11/09/2012 07:24 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
On 11/09/2012 07:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Smolt is also being retired:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement
The stats a
On 11/09/2012 07:56 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
My personal take is that Windows doesn't try and load things into the
Linux kernel, or otherwise disrupt the installed Fedora OS so I don't
personally care.
And vbox vmware and hyperv do?
What about ( citrix ) xen in that regard as well?
Actually netw
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 07:56 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> My personal take is that Windows doesn't try and load things into the
>> Linux kernel, or otherwise disrupt the installed Fedora OS so I don't
>> personally care.
>
>
> And vbox vmware
On 11/09/2012 08:06 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
Sticking strictly to the statistics point - I tend to agree at least
on Vbox - esp. for all the people who do dev-type work on macs, etc.
VMware is a bit harder to see - obviously they're the huge elephant in
the virt space but I would tend to th
On 11/09/2012 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
Maybe you're talking about running Fedora as a vbox or vmware guest on
some other OS?
Yup those are the use cases I'm concern about as in users running other
OS and installing Fedora as an virtualzation guest in that OS. ( like
Robyn pointed out with
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> Maybe you're talking about running Fedora as a vbox or vmware guest on
>> some other OS?
>
>
> Yup those are the use cases I'm concern about as in users running other OS
> and installin
On 11/09/2012 01:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 11/09/2012 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
Maybe you're talking about running Fedora as a vbox or vmware guest on
some other OS?
Yup those are the use cases I'm concern about as in users running
other OS and installing Fedora as an virtual
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:58:07PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 06:40 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:16:24PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>On 11/09/2012 05:30 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> >>>On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 08:49:19AM +,
On 11/09/2012 10:56 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
Vbox and vmware require external kernel modules. This detail alone
immediately limits an audience for these "solutions" to a rather narrow
circle
How so?
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On 11/09/2012 10:56 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
Vbox and vmware require external kernel modules.
Can you please provide a link to where it says you need to install
"external kernel modules" because there is no mention of a such things
here [1]
JBG
1.http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/micros
#322: New release criterion: no X libs in the minimal install set
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On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 10:01 +0100, Matthias Runge wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 09:49 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> >
> > But as has been pointed out why aren't we testing and ensuring that
> > Fedora runs well in vmware,hyperv and virtualbox since we ensure it
> > works well being dualbooted al
#322: New release criterion: no X libs in the minimal install set
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On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 13:06 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 12:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > On 11/09/2012 07:24 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 11/09/2012 07:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Smolt is
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 16:14 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
> wrote:
> > On 11/09/2012 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe you're talking about running Fedora as a vbox or vmware guest on
> >> some other OS?
> >
> >
> > Yup those are the u
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:17:16PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 10:56 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> >Vbox and vmware require external kernel modules. This detail alone
> >immediately limits an audience for these "solutions" to a rather narrow
> >circle
>
> How so?
Is th
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:24:54PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 10:56 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> >Vbox and vmware require external kernel modules.
>
> Can you please provide a link to where it says you need to install
> "external kernel modules"
Somebody said so earli
Somehow Anaconda managed to mess up the partition
table on a different disk, so I had to reinstall a Fedora 16
to get Windows et al back.
I noticed the post install processing in f16 lasted only
a few seconds, not the seemingly interminable wait
a Fedora 18 install takes.
Is this some sort of re
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 17:21 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:24:54PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > On 11/09/2012 10:56 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > >Vbox and vmware require external kernel modules.
> >
> > Can you please provide a link to where it says y
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 16:30 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Somehow Anaconda managed to mess up the partition
> table on a different disk, so I had to reinstall a Fedora 16
> to get Windows et al back.
>
> I noticed the post install processing in f16 lasted only
> a few seconds, not t
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 09:59 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
> I have done a quick change [1] to our Test Day template and removed
> all Smolt references, because Smolt was retired [2]. But some test
> days might really miss this functionality. Any ideas how to replace
> missing Smolt with something usefu
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 08:40 +0100, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> I've just tried Fedora 18 Live desktop image. It's a big wow and despite
> some changes in gnome 3.6 which I'm not accustomed to everything seems
> to work fine.
>
> There is however some serious issue, that is also present in earlie
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 19:18 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > You must be exporting it somewhere check .bash_profile etc for
> > "en.UTF-8" ( which probably is supposed to be "en_US.utf8" )
>
> No, not in my homedir. But found in /etc/locale.conf and in
> /etc/sysconfig/i18
It sounds like you in
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 04:39:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> VBox does need out-of-tree kernel modules when run as a host on Linux.
> Some Linux distros package these via kmods or dkms or whatever. I'm not
> sure if RPMFusion packages them for Fedora. If your distro does not have
> a packaged
On 11/10/2012 12:39 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I think there's still some host/guest confusion going on, possibly.
I was refereeing to Fedora as an guest in vmware,vbox,hyperv not as an
host which is in context with the criteria discussion about Fedora being
installed along with other OS.
I
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 04:14 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 12:39 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I think there's still some host/guest confusion going on, possibly.
>
> I was refereeing to Fedora as an guest in vmware,vbox,hyperv not as an
> host which is in context with the
On 11/10/2012 01:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
We may need to hack up some kind of instructions to include lspci -nn
output in the meantime, at least for some test days, until the new
system is available.
Speaking of lack of communication which seems to be the theme for this
release what new s
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 05:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 01:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > We may need to hack up some kind of instructions to include lspci -nn
> > output in the meantime, at least for some test days, until the new
> > system is available.
>
> Speaking
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 22:08:14 -0800
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 05:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > On 11/10/2012 01:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > We may need to hack up some kind of instructions to include lspci
> > > -nn output in the meantime, at least for s
On 11/10/2012 06:08 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I thought it was mentioned in the link about Smolt deprecation. And
indeed it was.
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2012-October/003107.html
reads:
"A replacement for much of the functionality of smolt is under
development, see t
On 11/10/2012 06:17 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
(It's mentioned on the wiki page link I specifically pointed at in the
email too)
I skimmed over the announcement went to the mailing list so no activity
so how about mentioning the link to the replacement instead of hiding it
in the deprecation page
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