Re: Is efibootmgr expected to work?

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:14 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On a Dell Inspiron 7720 with a working up to date install > of Fed 19 beta I decided, for no good reason, to change the > order of the Fedora and CD entries in the EFI boot menu using > efibootmgr. > > However when trying to boot again th

[resolved]Re: [F19] More than 2 kernel entries in grub2.cfg?

2013-06-20 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On 06/20/2013 08:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:18:18 +0530 > Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > >> On 06/20/2013 11:12 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: >>> Heya, >>> >>> I've been using F19 for a while. For the past couple of days, I >>> don't see grub picking up latest kernel. > > ...s

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help [solved]

2013-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-06-20 21:03 (GMT-0700) T.C. Hollingsworth composed: Thank you!!! :-D What desktop are you using, then? On 2013-06-20 22:56 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: ... .fonts .gstreamer-0.10 .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 .kde .kderc .local ... KDE moved to kscreen for F19 and that might cause similar is

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 23:18 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-06-20 19:58 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: > > >> Is there some material difference there between F18 and F19? > > > No, but it's barely possible you somehow set one of those in F19 that > > you didn't in F18. > > >> Would any

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help

2013-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-06-20 19:58 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: Is there some material difference there between F18 and F19? No, but it's barely possible you somehow set one of those in F19 that you didn't in F18. Would any of that be in any of these? No, you'd want to look in dconf-editor at

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 22:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-06-20 19:33 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: > > > On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 22:31 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> I have F19 on two systems I've been working with for the past two days > >> trying > >> to isolate a Nouveau DVI pro

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help

2013-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-06-20 19:33 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 22:31 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I have F19 on two systems I've been working with for the past two days trying to isolate a Nouveau DVI problem, and in the process ran across this: Only on the F19 system most rec

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/20/2013 10:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: So if I'm reading things right, no, langtable doesn't currently make any attempt to associate each Indian language with a territory any more specific than 'India', and as currently implemented, couldn't actually do this. Mike may well correct me if

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 22:31 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > I have F19 on two systems I've been working with for the past two days trying > to isolate a Nouveau DVI problem, and in the process ran across this: > > Only on the F19 system most recently updated (Tuesday, server 1.14.1), > PreferredMode

need PreferredMode troubleshooting help

2013-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
I have F19 on two systems I've been working with for the past two days trying to isolate a Nouveau DVI problem, and in the process ran across this: Only on the F19 system most recently updated (Tuesday, server 1.14.1), PreferredMode in xorg.conf to override a CRT's optimal resolution either ne

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 21:52 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/20/2013 09:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > To me that's just more illustration of the problem. Do things look > > better to an Indian who just wants to install in English anyway if we: > > > > a) default to English? > > b) default t

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/20/2013 09:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: To me that's just more illustration of the problem. Do things look better to an Indian who just wants to install in English anyway if we: a) default to English? b) default to an Indian language they don't speak at all? Obviously its globally easier

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 21:19 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/20/2013 09:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Frankly I'm not 100% convinced that it's a good idea to try and guess > > language even from a fairly reliable geolocation mechanism like ours. > > It's still not 100% reliable - people

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/20/2013 09:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Frankly I'm not 100% convinced that it's a good idea to try and guess language even from a fairly reliable geolocation mechanism like ours. It's still not 100% reliable - people behind corporate VPNs can be routed through just about anywhere - and e

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/21/13 09:04, Adam Williamson wrote: > English is pretty > much the unofficial lingua franca of Tech In General, if nothing else, > everyone's pretty much resigned to it by now - but people (of whatever > nationality) are far more likely to find it problematic if it defaults > to a non-English

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 16:01 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 05:54:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 12:39 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: > > > On 14/06/13 12:31, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 12:28 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: >

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 20:05 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > Quite a lot of people have said they find the current layout a > bit > confusing, but then, we tried two other layouts before this > one and >

Re: Validation tests not yet run against Final

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 09:19 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > Based on Josef's script, this is the list of test cases that really need > testing (not tested at all during Final, or tested long time ago): > > QA:Testcase_USB_stick_Live_luc The fact that https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=97641

Re: Is efibootmgr expected to work?

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 13:14 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On a Dell Inspiron 7720 with a working up to date install > of Fed 19 beta I decided, for no good reason, to change the > order of the Fedora and CD entries in the EFI boot menu using > efibootmgr. > > However when trying to boot again

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 20:47 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:44 PM, John Reiser wrote: > > > On 06/19/2013 06:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >> Hmm, neither the Fedora 18 or 19 Xorg.0.logs contain 'software renderer' > >> or 'llvmpipe'. > >> > >> https://dl.dropboxuserconte

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 18:34 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:17 PM, drago01 wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Chris Murphy > > wrote: > >> > >> On Jun 19, 2013, at 3:53 PM, John Reiser wrote: > >> > Is there a more definitive way to tell if gnome-shell is o

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-20 Thread Peter Jones
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 05:54:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 12:39 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: > > On 14/06/13 12:31, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 12:28 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: > > > > > > > Well, I configured the wireless network prior to g

[Test-Announce] TC6 cloud images available in EC2 and for download

2013-06-20 Thread Matthew Miller
Fedora 19 Test Candidate 6 cloud images are now available from: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-TC6/Images/ in either qcow2 or raw.xz format. You should be able to use Glance in OpenStack to just import the qcow2 images directly and go. They're also in Amazon EC2 in the US East r

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-20 Thread John Reiser
On 06/19/2013 07:47 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:44 PM, John Reiser wrote: > >> On 06/19/2013 06:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >>> Hmm, neither the Fedora 18 or 19 Xorg.0.logs contain 'software renderer' or >>> 'llvmpipe'. >>> >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Adam Williamson wrote: There are probably a thousand questions we could ask at the first stage of install that would allow various small groups of people to have a more 'tailored' installer in some way. How do you decide which to ask and which not to ask? One might put all

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 12:31 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > Dne čtvrtek, 20. června 2013 5:01:12 CEST, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > > Right, right now you could run anaconda from the desktop live and use > > GNOME's A11y features. We don't really test that, but it's there as an > > option. > > hm, do

Re: Validation tests not yet run against Final

2013-06-20 Thread Kamil Paral
Based on Josef's script, this is the list of test cases that really need testing (not tested at all during Final, or tested long time ago): QA:Testcase_USB_stick_Live_luc QA:Testcase_Boot_Methods_Boot_Iso QA:Testcase_install_repository_NFS_variation QA:Testcase_Anaconda_updates.img_via_local_medi

F-19 Branched report: 20130620 changes

2013-06-20 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Jun 20 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [avgtime] avgtime-0-0.5.git20120724.fc19.x86_64 requires libphobos-ldc.so.60()(64bit) [derelict] derelict-ogg-3-13.20130516gitd8aa11d.fc19.i686 require

Is efibootmgr expected to work?

2013-06-20 Thread Alexander Volovics
On a Dell Inspiron 7720 with a working up to date install of Fed 19 beta I decided, for no good reason, to change the order of the Fedora and CD entries in the EFI boot menu using efibootmgr. However when trying to boot again the only entry available in the EFI boot menu was for PXE boot. All othe

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-20 Thread Karel Volný
Dne čtvrtek, 20. června 2013 5:01:12 CEST, Adam Williamson napsal(a): Right, right now you could run anaconda from the desktop live and use GNOME's A11y features. We don't really test that, but it's there as an option. hm, does the install from Live work like a clean install (the same as neti