Re: Is efibootmgr expected to work?

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 23:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: efibootmgr depends on the kernel to poke the firmware to modify NVRAM. Since the kernel and UEFI firmware are bug free, ba dum *TISH* Chris will be here all week, folks. Remember - tip your server! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help [solved]

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 01:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-06-20 21:03 (GMT-0700) T.C. Hollingsworth composed: Thank you!!! :-D What desktop are you using, then? On 2013-06-20 22:56 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: ... .fonts .gstreamer-0.10 .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 .kde .kderc

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help [solved]

2013-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-06-21 03:07 (GMT-0400) Adam Williamson composed: KDE has a checkbox for *everything in the world*, so I'm sure you can reverse/reconfigure it somewhere. I haven't used it, but I'm assuming it can set resolution and refresh rate as well as multi-monitor positioning, hence useful for

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-21 Thread Karel Volný
Dne čtvrtek, 20. června 2013 18:38:41 CEST, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 12:31 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: hm, does the install from Live work like a clean install (the same as netinstall for example), or does it still work the old style, i.e. you can't choose different

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-06-21 10:09 (GMT+0200) Karel Volný composed: /me just votes for supporting different Lives with different UIs, not only the GNOME Shell based one Won't work for me. I do a lot of installs, but few or only one of any given version, so most of the time I only download what's going to

Re: Is efibootmgr expected to work?

2013-06-21 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:46:56PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:14 AM, Alexander Volovics a.volo...@upcmail.nl wrote: On a Dell Inspiron 7720 with a working up to date install of Fed 19 beta I decided, for no good reason, to change the order of the Fedora and CD

Re: Validation tests not yet run against Final

2013-06-21 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 09:19 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: Based on Josef's script, this is the list of test cases that really need testing (not tested at all during Final, or tested long time ago): QA:Testcase_USB_stick_Live_luc The fact that

Re: Validation tests not yet run against Final

2013-06-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 09:19 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: Based on Josef's script, this is the list of test cases that really need testing (not tested at all during Final, or tested long time ago): QA:Testcase_USB_stick_Live_luc The fact that

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 04:22:39 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: Furthermore, I require maximum installation time configurability. No live media installer I've ever tried has offered anything remotely close to meeting this requirement. Well, Fedora 19 solves your problem then, since the full installer

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help [solved]

2013-06-21 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: That was it. 'yum remove kscreen' wanted to remove kde-workspace. 'rpm -e --nodeps kscreen' mostly fixed it. There's a strong flicker I can't recall ever seeing before from the Radeon's DVI output (also in SUSE) as if

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help [solved]

2013-06-21 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: KDE has a checkbox for *everything in the world*, KScreen actually fixes this. The old display config pretty much exposed every xrandr option under the sun, and just as tersely. (In fact, I think it just shelled out

F-19 Branched report: 20130621 changes

2013-06-21 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Jun 21 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [avgtime] avgtime-0-0.5.git20120724.fc19.x86_64 requires libphobos-ldc.so.60()(64bit) [derelict] derelict-ogg-3-13.20130516gitd8aa11d.fc19.i686

Re: Validation tests not yet run against Final

2013-06-21 Thread Kamil Paral
Also, it would be nice if we could trim down the number of officially supported ISO-USB conversion methods. The combinatorial explosion is insane here. If we were to do our job properly, we would have to test 27 approaches how to create a thumb drive (3 tools x 3 images x 3

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 10:09 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: Dne čtvrtek, 20. června 2013 18:38:41 CEST, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 12:31 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: hm, does the install from Live work like a clean install (the same as netinstall for example), or does it

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: It's not a general issue, I don't think. Confirming John's report, on my desktop (9600 GT), CPU usage of Shell when I'm not touching the keyboard is 0.7%, and it never goes above 3% in light desktop use. On the newer

Disappearing cursor in rawhide

2013-06-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
For some time now (maybe a week) in rawhide the cursor disappears when the gnome shell appears. It may or may not be present during gdm time and initially in the lower right corner region after login, but then disappears but its location can be inferred by moving the mouse around and seeing

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: F19: direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV84 GL_MESA_texture_signed_rgba, GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp, GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_conditional_render,

Re: critera proposal/discussion: FESCo blockers

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 11:29 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. Per: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1126 I'm sending this here for comment. Rarely, but from time to time there is some change FESCo has required before they will go at the go/no-go meeting. While we could just

Re: Validation tests not yet run against Final

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 06:16 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 09:19 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: Based on Josef's script, this is the list of test cases that really need testing (not tested at all during Final, or tested long time ago): QA:Testcase_USB_stick_Live_luc

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help [solved]

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 04:19 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: That was it. 'yum remove kscreen' wanted to remove kde-workspace. 'rpm -e --nodeps kscreen' mostly fixed it. There's a strong flicker I can't recall ever

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 19:41 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: F19: direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV84

Re: need PreferredMode troubleshooting help [solved]

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 03:43 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-06-21 03:07 (GMT-0400) Adam Williamson composed: KDE has a checkbox for *everything in the world*, so I'm sure you can reverse/reconfigure it somewhere. I haven't used it, but I'm assuming it can set resolution and refresh rate

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-21 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 19:41 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: F19:

Fedora 19 updates-testing report

2013-06-21 Thread updates
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing: Age URL 66 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5801/mantis-1.2.15-1.fc19 21 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-9715/heat-jeos-9-1.fc19 13

Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks, time for another F19 Final status update! We're looking relatively hopeful at this point, but still some work to be done. Outstanding blockers We need fixes for: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924162 - A software selection with dependency errors is

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 08:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 10:09 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: Dne čtvrtek, 20. června 2013 18:38:41 CEST, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 12:31 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: hm, does the install from Live work like a clean

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 00:46 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 08:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 10:09 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: Dne čtvrtek, 20. června 2013 18:38:41 CEST, Adam

Re: F19 Installer a little better, but...

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 22:49 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/20/2013 10:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: So if I'm reading things right, no, langtable doesn't currently make any attempt to associate each Indian language with a territory any more specific than 'India', and as currently

Fedora 19 updates-testing report

2013-06-21 Thread updates
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing: Age URL 66 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5801/mantis-1.2.15-1.fc19 21 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-9715/heat-jeos-9-1.fc19 13