Re: proposal: remove "opportunity to carry out other desirable work" from the Exceptional Cases considerations in the blocker bug SOP

+1 to the proposal. On 10/21/20 11:37 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: In https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Exceptional_cases, there is a list of factors we may consider when dealing with last minute or difficult to resolve blockers. One item on the list is: * Whether delaying

Re: Fedora 30 updates-testing report

On 5/10/20 12:35 PM, upda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 304https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-c05e4425d1 dash-0.5.10.2-3.fc30 This issue is lingering around for long now. Status of BZ#1691825 is ON_QA which does not

On getting started

is not enough; we must apply. Being willing is not enough; we must do.  ~ Leonardo da Vinci From: Matthew Miller Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 5:39 AM To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Subject: Re: Introduction On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 06:36:01PM -0400, D L wrote: > My n

Introduction

Hi all! My name is Danny Lee and I’m a recent adopter of Silverblue and am a big fan. I’m also a long time unix/Linux user (starting around 1993), but never taking it beyond a basic level. I have recently started to pick up javascript and Ruby to strengthen my web development background.

SD slot errors

I've just installed F28 beta on my Cube Mix Plus tablet. It seems to work but a sequence of messages keep showing up in the dmesg output every 10 seconds. Note: this is the first time I've used Linux with this machine so I don't know if the problem would show up with F27. [ 537.896013] mmc1:

Re: F27 beta 1.5; Error doing an install on an existing RAID1 computer...

On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:13:02 -0500 D <dwoody5...@gmail.com> wrote: > I downloaded the F27 beta 1.5 iso install it on a flash drive and booted. > > My computer also requires acpi=off be added or it will not boot at all (not > an issue as far as I know). > > After booting

F27 beta 1.5; Error doing an install on an existing RAID1 computer...

I downloaded the F27 beta 1.5 iso install it on a flash drive and booted. My computer also requires acpi=off be added or it will not boot at all (not an issue as far as I know). After booting into the install option I get an error when the language screen is displayed. The error message is

F27 Beta install issue for existing RAID1

I originally on the user list and it was recommended to post here. I used F27 beta 1.3 to test if it would work a my computer with an existing RAID1. As it got to the install screen there was an error 'Device is already in tree'. There are three reports on bugzilla about RAID issues but it

Re: 'No More Alphas': wiki revision drafts

On 08/22/2017 07:34 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 07:18:04PM +0530, Sudhir D wrote: On a slightly different thought, if we run all existing Alpha criteria tests in rawhide, we can then probably look at existing Alpha blocker as Branch blocker.. i.e, we don't branch unless

Re: 'No More Alphas': wiki revision drafts

On 08/03/2017 05:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: * My proposal for 'what do we do about release criteria / validation' is basically: the 'Fedora 27 Alpha Release Criteria' page gets renamed 'Basic Release Criteria' (note: not versioned, I don't think it should be), and we document that *all*

Re: On vacation for a couple of weeks

On 07/13/2016 01:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: pschindl has done those when I've been away before, so he might be OK with picking it up again, or if anyone else would like to try that's fine. We'd only need a compose request if there's something we want to test that requires a compose but

Re: Requiring package test instructions

On 07/13/2016 08:17 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: But then we're setting the bar too low by allowing *anyone* to set karma for the sake of it. You might as well just let developers push packages to stable if they're 'confident' about it. That is painting with too broad of a brush for one

[New Members] Welcome and things to keep in mind.

Hello to all new members! You are guaranteed to have exciting time working with and testing Fedora. Enjoy the journey :) There are some basic guidelines while responding on mailing list that is in-place for best and effective communication. You can find them @

Re: Non-image blocker process change proposal

On 11/19/2015 11:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 19:09 +0530, Sudhir D wrote: I suggest we have only one ZeroDay i.e., for Final and do away with intermediate ones. As I see it, ZeroDay comes with cost and we also need to have basic sanity testcases automated to ensure

Re: Non-image blocker process change proposal

On 11/19/2015 06:06 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks! It's been a recurring issue in the blocker review / release validation process in recent times that we run across bugs that qualify as blockers, but for which the fix does not need to be in the final frozen media or install trees.

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

On 08/07/2015 10:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 10:03:34 -0700 Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This is exactly what I *don't* want to happen, and what rather annoys me about this whole business. The blocker process is not a tool for the rest of the project

Re: QA talks at Flock

On 05/01/2015 03:01 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: I was considering proposing a session which would just cover the 'new bits' we've put in place since F21 - the revisions to the validation test process (including relval/wikitcms), openQA, and some of the taskotron stuff (as the taskotron session

Re: Fedora QA subproject status report for council (in June)

On 04/20/2015 11:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Whoo, beta is (almost) out the door — time for congratulations and thanks to all of the QA team (and hopefully a nice deep breath). I'm looking at planning future meetings for the Fedora Council, and one thing we'd like to have is regular status

Re: several messages

| From: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com | | KDE install was successful on an older Core Duo. | Same KDE install on a 32 GB Asus P8Z77-vle-Plus | i7-3770k still fails with continual stack traces. | This failure has affected the last several kernel 3.8 | rawhides and all 3.9 so far. |

Re: (newbie tries Fedora 18 Beta) CHECKSUMs

| From: Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org | === Which is the real Fedora 18 key? Why isn't this documented better? | | I vaguely remember having this issue early in F18 development. I believe the | verify page initially had the 22B3B81A key but for some reason it had to be | changed.

(newbie tries Fedora 18 Beta) CHECKSUMs

[This stuff may be obvious. But it wasn't to me, so I think that it ought to qualify as testing.] Problem summary: confused about release's GPG key. I downloaded the Fedora 18 Beta x86_64 Install DVD from here: https://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease It told me to verify my download as per

Re: Bizarre happenings with Gnome 3

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 08:59, Leslie S Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.comwrote: which by the way is not removable or moveable Use ALT-click to modify panel applets in fallback mode. (By the way, your use of table for the body of the email made it extremely difficult to trim the quoted text of

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 01:45, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote: Care to explain the logic behind this? Because it is really beyond my understanding. No, I don't. Your attitude is too antagonistic. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Gnome 3

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:46, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote: it looks like this car has gas and brake pedals swapped and steering wheel is nowhere to be found.. How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you when the starting point is absurd hyperbole? -- test

Re: Gnome 3

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:07, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 05/31/2011 12:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you when the starting point is absurd hyperbole? .. you are replying to the wrong thread. What do you mean

RE: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On May 31, 2011 12:32 PM, John Dulaney j_dula...@live.com wrote: So, what I use is 'nm-applet'. For some reason, it is still there in /usr/bin (not that I'm complaining). It works fine standing alone without any other Gnome components loaded. Since it was included in my clean F15 install, I

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:42, John Dulaney j_dula...@live.com wrote: Yes, we use the exact same applet in GNOME 3 Fallback Mode so we have an interest in its continued maintenance for the foreseesble future. Indeed.  Maybe that's how I got it, from testing fallback?  Anyway, it still has all

Re: Gnome 3

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 14:18, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote: So, lets  tackle the screensaver issue again. As I understand from your answer there are currently no plans to return screensavers other than blank screen - it is not a temporary matter of lack of resources. I would like to see

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 01:24, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote: why Fedora maintainers decide to replace functional software by software that lacks many essential features or even replace existing It's already been explained to you that it hasn't been replaced. The old and new interfaces are

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 05:29, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote: Probably, inability to configure your screensaver is much more noticeable than inability to stop copy operation. :) Now *that* is intentional. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: systemd question

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 17:54, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: I have occasionally wanted the ability to make some bit of hardware on my system disappear. Don't want linux to fool with it at all (but don't want to take it apart and yank the board either :-). Can I use systemctl to

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 14:09, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, my internet provider (and all other internet providers in my country) require me to use PPPoE to connect to internet. And, for some unknown reason (probably something like I don't need it, so no one else

Re: OT: GNOME a Linux-only project ? systemd a dependency of GNOME 3 ?

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:58, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: GNOME Discusses Becoming a Linux-only Project http://www.osnews.com/story/24762/GNOME_Discusses_Becoming_a_Linux-only_Project read the comments below the article ! There are actually two developments (proposals): -

Re: no GDM after preupgrade from F14 -- help!

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 21:51, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: I ran pre-upgrade this afternoon on my F14 system.  Now, when booting it goes through the boot process. I can see it start the last thing in the init list, (Started Display Manager) the screen flashes a few

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:55, a...@clueserver.org wrote: The networking came up as IPv6 *only*. My router does not do IPv6 and my ISP (Qwest) does not know when their network ever will. In order to get it to work I had to hack files in /etc/sysconfig and use dhclient to get an address since

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 14:19, a...@clueserver.org wrote: I know. I have been through this before. There is a reason the Greeks considered Hubris a sin against the Gods. Please refrain from insults. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: mutter?

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 17:37, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: So I keep reading that mutter is the window manager in gnome-shell, but there is nothing named mutter running when I do a ps command in my gnome-shell session, there is, however, and program calling itself gnome-shell

Re: shell is gone?

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:27, John Morris jmor...@beau.org wrote: Jeeze people, just how much 3d grunt do you really need for a fricking desktop? Mutter performs the same as or better than Compiz on the same hardware so your assertion is invalid. -- test mailing list

Re: Fall back mode and launchers in the panel

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 21:05, Leslie S Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.comwrote: In non fall back mode, one cannot put favourites launchers in the panel. They go on the side, which consumes a lot of real-estate. In the graphics-off mode, the panel is activated, but once a launcher is copied to

Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 20:00, Richard England rlengl...@frontier.comwrote: On 05/08/2011 02:31 AM, Ron Yorston wrote: I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a bit more like that of GNOME 2. Move the clock towards the right of the panel; Place

Re: Titlebar text missing in shade mode

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 19:31, Richard England rlengl...@frontier.comwrote: On 05/08/2011 05:22 PM, Richard England wrote: After discovering I needed tweak tool (gnome-tweak-tool*rpm) to make the window shade (aka shade mode) work I discovered that when a windows is shaeded the titlebar

Re: Fedora 15 and cannot unpin application from the taskbar

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:19, Leslie S Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.comwrote: I dragged to the taskbar, the system update command, when I really wanted to drag the solitaire application. Then I dragged solitaire there again and it is there twice (2nd time was accident). Alt-right-click

Re: auto login stopped working on live usb

It's already fixed in accountsservice -5. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 17:18, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: I was testing some stuff today on a live USB stick of fedora 15 beta x86_64 (with a persistent overlay), and I installed updated to make sure I had the latest stuff and wasn't

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:09, Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: Up until now, the fallback mode has preserved (to an approximation) my older panel setup - a single panel, not full width, on the bottom. Today all that's gone; now I have two panels. My launchers are gone, as is a fair

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 13:15, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: I am seeing the same thing you are (on F15), so I don't think it is a rawhide only issue. If you find a solution I'd like to hear about it. I can't change the preferences from the desktop. The launchers I had have

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 14:10, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly that ought not happen. Instead, Rawhide would typically move ahead of the F-15 branch due to packagers dropping even newer stuff into Rawhide [1], and then updates to F-15 branched no longer inherit from

Re: nvidia/nouveau problems

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:14, Per Bothner p...@bothner.com wrote: I did try hard to get a laptop with just integrated graphics, but they're very hard to find, especially once you get to mid/upper-end with i7 quad-core Sandy Bridge. Most of them have nvidia/optimus. A few have ATI, which

Re: nvidia/nouveau problems

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:21, Per Bothner p...@bothner.com wrote: On 04/20/2011 10:00 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:14, Per Bothner p...@bothner.com mailto:p...@bothner.com wrote: I did try hard to get a laptop with just integrated graphics

Re: nvidia/nouveau problems

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:12, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:21, Per Bothner p...@bothner.com wrote: On 04/20/2011 10:00 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:14, Per Bothner p...@bothner.com mailto:p...@bothner.com wrote

Re: Gnome 3 not showing anything :(

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 14:06, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.comwrote: I have happily run Gnome 3 on several machines three x86_64 ones, and on one 64 bit machine I installed i686 version and it was running great till today. Only gkrellm shows up when starting. How can I get it back?

Re: gnote

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:58, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.comwrote: How do I get gnote to start automatically and display an icon somewhere? I've come to rely on it. $ ln -s /usr/share/applications/gnote.desktop ~/.config/autostart/ Freedesktop standard. Works with any DE. or

Re: fallback from gnome-shell to the old desktop not satisfying since some days

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 01:05, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: Hi Michael, I'm sorry, but there is no user menu at the right side of the panel. Only Applications and Places menu at the panel's left side. This will fix it: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel -- test

Re: Illegible panel field.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 15:03, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: The field in the upper panel that contains date and time has black background and so is the text. When I move the mouse over the field the background changes to white and the text becomes legible. It's F15, fully

Re: how to replace gnome-shell with a different window manager?

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 14:51, James Ralston qralston+ml.redhat-fedora-t...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: /usr/bin/sawfish as my window manager, instead of /usr/bin/gnome-shell? gnome-shell is the WM, the panel provider and the notification daemon so you need all three to replace it. That means you

Re: On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:34, Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: failed to create drawable Window manager error: Unable to initialize Clutter. As far as I can tell, my kernel configuration is the same as Fedora's for the relevant options - i915, KMS by default, etc.  But the Fedora

Re: [solved] On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 16:05, Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: Found it.  The root cause is that I was unable to open /dev/dri/card0.  In the end, every system management problem in existence can be diagnosed with strace...  I added myself to the video group and everything is happy

Re: Appearance?

Font size - a11y Background - dedicated applet Theme: there aren't any other themes yet to choose from On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 17:42, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: Where has the gnome appearance dialog gone in fedora 15? -- Erik -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: test request: fix for the 'can't login to GNOME with at-spi2' issue

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 01:53, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Hey, all. Can anyone who was hit by the bug of GNOME failing to run unless they removed at-spi2* please test this update?

Re: Applets

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 18:22, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: Pretty half baked if ask me. There is no include it at a later date, or next release option, as that is just trying to get something out the door but not include anything else. If applets are going away, no problem, then

Re: Applets

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:29, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com said: Patches welcome. Alternatively, you could pay someone to write it who already isn't spending every spare, waking moment working on getting GNOME 3 ready

Re: Applets

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 19:55, Andy Lawrence dr.die...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.comwrote: It will be considered ready without widgets. Without widgets, No, without applets and without a new widget system. System tray icons

Re: Applets

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:49, Jonathan Kamens j...@kamens.us wrote: Grow up and act like adults, please. All of you. On both sides of the issue. Condescending, patronizing tone is not welcome. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Applets

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 21:48, Steven Haigh net...@crc.id.au wrote: I think the bit that bugs me the most about gnome-shell is that if applications have a long title, you can't tell what the apps is. ie LibreOffice... by however many icons. I have to know what the icon colour is for what

Re: gnome-shell???

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 23:03, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 12:50 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:54:50 -0800, Rob Healey robheal...@gmail.com wrote: I must ask again, please, is fc15 updates-testing gnome*2.91.90* or

Re: Clumsy Favorites in GNOME Shell

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:52, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: No real reason, hence fixed upstream: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=7ddf54c4d Please do not land any more UI changes without release team and doc team approval. It would be nice if you involved marketing team

Re: SPICE crashing qemu-kvm 0.14.0

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 08:26, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone able to run a SPICE guest with qemu-kvm 0.14.0? qemu-kvm-0.14.0-0.1.201102107aa8c46.fc15.x86_64 crashes hard (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677169).  I'd expect a bit more screaming if everyone

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:01, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) said: But it doesn't make any sense. gnome-panel does *not* require gnome-shell. We really shouldn't just go around abusing dependencies to make upgrades 'work', even if it is

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 09:58, Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@cox.netwrote: The startup applications menu selection has gone away also...so how do we start nautilus when gnome is loaded? Used to be able to put a startup cmd in the startup apps dialogue.

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 14:32, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Well you'd want to be able to exclude it as well and adding it as an artificial dep to something like gnome-session won't allow it to be removed. GNOME Shell is the shell of GNOME 3 and thus depending on the GNOME