Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:54:26 +0100 "valent.turko...@gmail.com" wrote: > Issue was with missing TPM modules! One solution would be to disable > TPM in EFI/BIOS and other to install missing kernel-modules-extra > package. > > Now resume finally works! Just for closure, I'll chime in to say this w

Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:33:51 -0500 "Jared K. Smith" wrote: > I had the same problem with mine (X1 Carbon second generation) until I > updated the UEFI firmware on it. Since updating that, I haven't had any > problems with suspend or resume. Which version of the firmware are you at? I upgraded

Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:17:25 -0500 Jonathan Corbet wrote: > I'm pretty well mystified, but, given my general lack of skills in this > part of the system, that's not surprising. My next step, perhaps, is to > start disabling boot-time unit files until I find the one that makes

Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:48:00 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > Check the modules loaded in working and non-working cases? Should have mentioned...I did that. About the only promising sounding discrepancy was ec_sys, but loading it didn't change anything. Of course, I loaded it after boot; guess I

Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Just FYI, I tried out the F21 beta image in the vain hope that my resume problems would have magically gone away. No such luck. In case anybody is interested, here is what (little) I know... - Resume works great under F20. - Under F21, suspend seems to work fine, but there is no response to t

Re: Some F21 Alpha impressions

2014-10-06 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:15:54 -0400 Matthias Clasen wrote: > Hey Jonathan, thanks for the feedback. Thanks to everybody for the responses! > > - The main thing is that resume does not work in F21. Things appear > >to suspend just fine, but there is no response to pressing the > >blinki

Re: Emacs (was: Some F21 Alpha impressions)

2014-10-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:02:15 +0200 drago01 wrote: > Do you have a screenshot of the wrong looking emacs? Attached, finally. Took me a while to get back to a nominally working system after the scaling experiment - had to go to backups in the end. Whatever gnome-tweak-tool tweaks in that case, it'

Re: Emacs (was: Some F21 Alpha impressions)

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:23:30 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > > The scaling factor I talking about is an integer it cannot go to 0.5 > > ... I am currently not in front of a F21 system so not sure how > > exactly it is labled in tweak tool but it should be there. > > I think the one Jonathan is lo

Re: Emacs (was: Some F21 Alpha impressions)

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 19:46:32 +0200 drago01 wrote: > Jonathan can you try to install gnome-tweak-tool and set the scaling > factor to 1 (warning: everything will be smaller) to verify that > (default is 0) ? It was already set to 1 — dunno how it got there, but that's what I had. It won't let me

Some F21 Alpha impressions

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So, feeling like life has kind of sucked recently, I've been compensating by buying toys. One of those is a shiny new Thinkpad X1 Carbon laptop. The first thing I installed on it was the F21 Workstation alpha; here's a few impressions... - The main thing is that resume does not work in F21. Th

Re: Weird rawhide desktop behavior

2012-03-24 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:23:26 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Jonathan, Chuck - if you try holding down a key that ought to do > something for half a second instead of just pressing it, does it work? I'll try that next time the problem hits. I don't have any real way to provoke it now, though, so

Weird rawhide desktop behavior

2012-03-24 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Here's a strange pathology that just bit me for the first time in a while, though I've seen it before. I'm not sure where to file a bug on this one... In short: I'll be working away, minding my own business, when the desktop goes completely dead - no response to any key or mouse events. That sai

Re: Emacs "yank" behavior change

2012-03-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Well, it only took me a month and a half to get around to figuring this out. I just bet I'm not going to be the only one to ask this question once this version of Emacs spreads more widely, so it's worth posting the solution. On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:47:22 -0700 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > One

Re: rawhide report: 20120205 changes

2012-02-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:59:38 +0100 Harald Hoyer wrote: > > Running Transaction Check > > ERROR You need to update rpm to handle: > > rpmlib(X-CheckUnifiedSystemdir) is needed by filesystem-3-2.fc17.i686 > > RPM needs to be updated > > > > I have the lastest rpm build for rawhide (rpm-4.9.1.2-11.fc

Emacs "yank" behavior change

2012-02-01 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I finally got around to updating the Rawhide system after my last round of travel. When yum informed me that there were 1300 packages to update, I got a little worried. But things actually mostly work, modulo a suspend problem that I want to investigate further when time allows. One thing has

Grub -> grub2?

2011-10-15 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So today yum wants to put grub2 onto my rawhide system, nudging grub out of the way in the process. This makes me nervous. Last time I read about this, it wasn't a straightforward update from one to the other. If that has changed, could somebody please give me a warm fuzzy feeling that allowing

Re: Still singing the fallback mode blues

2011-10-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:40:03 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > So, what's left to determine is whether all that goomph above is just > telepathy pooping its pants, or whether that's actually what's causing > Shell to crash (or quit). > > Do you have any abrt crash reports for gnome-shell? Nothing

Still singing the fallback mode blues

2011-10-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So the roadblock that kept {cl,m}utter off my Rawhide box cleared and I figured I could now happily to back to swearing at gnome-shell. Alas, no such luck. "Something went wrong" still; for an added bonus, the login screen is now only willing to give me a choice of sessions the first time around.

Good thing I build my own kernels

2011-09-29 Thread Jonathan Corbet
As I was booting my system after today's Rawhide update, I noticed that there were no Fedora kernels on offer at all. It seems like, once again, grubby is going weird and refusing to add lines for new kernels to grub.conf as they are installed. Is this, perhaps, a subtle hint that I should switch

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-23 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:50:16 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > > 3.7.9 never showed the problem - > > Let's not argue about that, please. 3.7.9-0.3.20110409cvs was the first to > suffer from focus problems, and 3.7.9-4 was the one to "fix" it. Sorry, I was being sloppy. I meant "recent 3.7.9"

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-23 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:09:43 +0100 Peter Robinson wrote: > Looks more like you need gnome-shell 3.1.92 amd clutter-gst-1.3.14-2 > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13111 > > They're both in the update, you might want to try another mirror, or > "yum clean all" The thing the

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-23 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:50:24 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > The old focus issue was due to a side-effect of a work-around for > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653061 > which had caused Claws Mail to start minimized. That bug is still > not fixed in GNOME Shell, but we have switched

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > IMO, it could be much more productive if you also > evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 development. Sigh. I've been running Rawhide for a very long time. As of the last year or so, though, almost every post I make d

Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
There's something about that "oh no something went wrong" screen that just makes it clear that you're not going to have as good a day as you'd hoped for. Now that I've finished re-educating the window manager about my peculiarities ("yes, I do like more than one workspace, thank you"), here's a fe

Re: bluez and hci's which initially come up as hid (was Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update)

2011-09-14 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:50:53 +0200 Hans de Goede wrote: > Jonathan, can you give bluez-4.96-3.fc17 a spin? It should fix your > mouse + keyboard issue. OK, I finally got a chance to install this. Mouse and keyboard work great, thanks. Thanks, jon -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject

Re: bluez and hci's which initially come up as hid (was Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update)

2011-09-07 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:50:53 +0200 Hans de Goede wrote: > Jonathan, can you give bluez-4.96-3.fc17 a spin? It should fix your > mouse + keyboard issue. Will do, but not before the weekend - I forgot to bring the desktop system to LPC :) Thanks for addressing this, jon -- test mailing list tes

Re: bluez and hci's which initially come up as hid (was Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update)

2011-09-02 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:18:31 +0200 Hans de Goede wrote: > Which is in essence the problem you are seeing here Jonathan, after > my bluez update, your bluetooth dongle is actually being out into > HCI mode, so that it can for example also be used to sync with your > phone, use a bluetooth headset,

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-09-01 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:21:13 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Obvious suspects there - gnome-bluetooth and udev for the BT keyboard > issue, None of the above, as it turns out. These guys: bluez-libs-4.96-2.fc17.x86_64 bluez-4.96-2.fc17.x86_64 break my keyboard. Downgrading to:

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-09-01 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:21:13 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Obvious suspects there - gnome-bluetooth and udev for the BT keyboard > issue, claws-mail itself for the claws update. I don't think Bluetooth itself should come into play at all; the device simply looks like a keyboard, even the BIOS

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:44 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > it would probably help to know what *was* in the update set. OK, from yum.log: Aug 31 07:17:02 Updated: atk-2.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 Aug 31 07:17:03 Updated: gtk3-3.1.12-1.fc16.x86_64 Aug 31 07:17:07 Updated: mono-core-2.10.5-1.fc17.x86_64

Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So, I thought...LWN writing is almost done for the day, why not do an update and see what happens? What happened: - My Logitech bluetooth keyboard, which has Just Worked for years, doesn't work anymore. Grub still sees it fine, but the running system does not. Sometimes unplugging and re

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:08:52 -0400 Matthias Clasen wrote: > > Error: Protected multilib versions: > > gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != > > gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 > > > > I have no idea what these errors mean or how to fix them. > Any advice would be appreciated. Actually, t

Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:00:34 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Not always, but at random times. Also: > - perceived lag (compared with F15) > - areas of the screen not getting refreshed in time, staying blank >until I touch the window or move a GTK slider, >e.g. individual mailbox subject

Re: Oh no, something went wrong!

2011-07-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:11:00 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > You need Mutter 3.1.3.1 (not 3.1.3). 3.1.3 mistakenly bumped that > namespace. Indeed, that was the problem. All is happy now, thanks! jon -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject

Oh no, something went wrong!

2011-07-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Seeing the black screen of death with $SUBJECT is becoming an increasingly common part of my rawhide experience; today's update brought it back again. Would it really be too hard for it to way *what* went wrong? I did manage to find an error in .xsession-errors - but only, of course, if I looked b

Re: Grubby templates [was Somebody hosed grub.conf]

2011-05-16 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 13 May 2011 08:43:30 -0600 Jonathan Corbet wrote: > I watched closely as today's kernel update came through: > > > Installing : kernel-2.6.39-0.rc7.git3.0.fc16.x86_64 > > 19/37 > > grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable

Re: Grubby templates [was Somebody hosed grub.conf]

2011-05-13 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 12 May 2011 18:47:56 + Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > Anywho it most likely was caused by a post-install script failure. I watched closely as today's kernel update came through: > Installing : kernel-2.6.39-0.rc7.git3.0.fc16.x86_64 > 19/37 > grubby fatal er

Re: Somebody hosed grub.conf

2011-05-13 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 12 May 2011 13:13:00 -0500 "Jason D. Clinton" wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:52, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > > So I went to boot my rawhide system > > You're sending this question to the wrong list. This list is for > people testing the F15 relea

Somebody hosed grub.conf

2011-05-12 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I went to boot my rawhide system the other day, only to notice that none of the usual fedora kernel options were there. I've long since had my own kernels there, of course, and those have not been touched - but somebody cleared out all of the Fedora options from grub.conf. Am I the only one wh

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-23 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:29:48 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The advice there on using alt right click to adjust panels worked. I haven't > set everything back up, but I have one larger panel at the bottom again. It worked for me too - almost. I used to have a single, non-expanded panel in the l

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 12:19:41 -0500 "Jason D. Clinton" wrote: > Are you still running rawhide despite recommendations not to? Yes...my understanding is that updates will be slow while everybody's busy with F15; I honestly didn't expect it to break my panel at this stage. But, then, rawhide is goo

Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Up until now, the fallback mode has preserved (to an approximation) my older panel setup - a single panel, not full width, on the bottom. Today all that's gone; now I have two panels. My launchers are gone, as is a fair amount of my vertical screen space. Is this deliberate? If so, why? It was

claws-mail hosed in today's Rawhide

2011-03-29 Thread Jonathan Corbet
[Repeat after me: "never jump into daily rawhide updates in the hope that they'll fix the things that broke yesterday"] What broke today is claws-mail. It reads mail just fine, and will happily let you put time into composing messages, but it is totally unable to send them. Click

Re: Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:59:58 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Note it's not uncommon for reporters to accidently continue to stay on > the rawhide train instead of disabling rawhide and enable > updates-testing when it get's branched. > > If you need a usable system I recommend that you

Re: Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:03:38 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > - Blinking cursors are on everything and cannot be turned off. I *hate* > > blinking cursors. They make me Grumpy. > > You should be able to disable that with gconf-editor/gsettings > /desktop/gnome/interface/cursor

Re: Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:42:43 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > So I just updated my Rawhide system. Items noticed in the first few > > minutes: > > Rawhide or branched? Rawhide. jon -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I just updated my Rawhide system. Items noticed in the first few minutes: - Blinking cursors are on everything and cannot be turned off. I *hate* blinking cursors. They make me Grumpy. - Lots of icons are missing. The "system settings" dialog is now mostly text. - Setting the bac

Re: GNOME Tweak Tool now ready for testing

2011-03-25 Thread Jonathan Corbet
y menu bars fit again and that makes me happy :) Thanks, jon Jonathan Corbet / LWN.net / cor...@lwn.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: GNOME Tweak Tool now ready for testing

2011-03-25 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:48:08 +0100 Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > For those wanting to more easily tweak their GNOME 3 desktop (e.g. font > adjustment), GNOME Tweak Tool should now be in your updates-testing. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-tweak-tool-2.91.92-3.fc15 I instal

Re: [solved] On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:02:52 -0500 Dave Jones wrote: > > Nope, I do have ACLs built into my kernel. > > You need the XATTR options, as well as ACL ones. I have that too, the problem would appear to be elsewhere. Thanks, jon -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: [solved] On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:25:24 -0600 "Jason D. Clinton" wrote: > Actually, it's probably somehow related to ACL's which are supposed to > automatically be append to the device node in question on ConsoleKit > activation of the user session: > > [jclinton@jclinton-laptop ~]$ getfacl /dev/dri/card0

Re: [solved] On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:45:29 -0700 Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Something tells me that this difference probably has some bearing on my > little problem. Found it. The root cause is that I was unable to open /dev/dri/card0. In the end, every system management problem in existence can be dia

Re: On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:24:43 -0500 Dave Jones wrote: > > So I'm mystified. Any ideas? Might there be some magic in the Fedora > > initrd that I'm missing (I've never used initrd on my systems)? > > An easy test would be to actually build one for your test kernel. > make install should do

On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I'm still trying to find my way into this gnome-shell 3D world. In the process, I'm running into display corruption on my Intel Q35-based system. I'd like to try to track it down; in particular, I'd like to figure out if the problem exists in the mainline kernel so I can report it right to the

Re: gnome-shell performance (was gnome-applets and rawhide updates)

2011-02-20 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:56:34 +0100 drago01 wrote: > OK, can you please try this scratch build: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2851093 ? No change with that installed. > And also please file a bug it makes tracking it easier than here. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho

Re: gnome-shell performance (was gnome-applets and rawhide updates)

2011-02-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:32:36 +0100 drago01 wrote: > Please name your hardware "onboard intel" is too vague. According to X: [12.376] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Q35 [12.376] (--) intel(0): Chipset: "Q35" lspci sees it as: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp

gnome-shell performance (was gnome-applets and rawhide updates)

2011-02-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
A quick look shows mutter running flat-out most of the time. I'm running fairly standard onboard Intel graphics; it all works beautifully under metacity. Is gnome-shell just too cool for my hardware, or is there something else going on? Thanks, jon Jonathan Corbet / LWN.net / cor...@lwn

gnome-applets and rawhide updates

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So, it's been a while since I've been able to update my rawhide desktop and see what breaks - long enough that I've forgotten the pain and want to feel it again. The blocking factor should be familiar to many: Error: Package: 1:gnome-applets-2.32.0-3.fc15.x86_64 (@rawhide) Requires: li