Re: Bug 1046701 – NetworkManager hides DNS resolver search list setting in Fedora 20

On 12/26/2013 09:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Are you sure you're not confusing the GNOME network configuration applet with nm-connection-editor? Both exist in both F19 and F20, nm-c-e has a few more things to twiddle than the GNOME applet. If I understand the setting you're talking about, I s

Bug 1046701 – NetworkManager hides DNS resolver search list setting in Fedora 20

Can somebody else confirm this, or tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'd like to think I'm just imagining this problem since it's so absurd, but I really can't find my way around it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1046701 Bug text: "In Fedora 19 I was able to edit the list of domains

Re: emacs unusable remotely on f20!

I do not observe this behavior when logging in from a Fedora 20 laptop running GNOME, to a Fedora 20 server, over ssh, and then running emacs over the tunneled X connection. Maybe we're using different versions of Emacs? I'm using emacs-24.3-13.fc20.x86_64. jik On 12/23/2013 10:20 AM, Nea

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

ing what you wanted to do all along. On 09/24/2013 04:35 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 09/24/2013 07:17 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: I entirely agree with you that it would be better if those percentages were lower. But driving those numbers is not the end goal. The end goal

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

As Michael Schwendt has pointed out, NEW implies neither that the bug hasn't been looked at nor that there has been no activity on it. Russ Herrold is also correct: if bugs are not being looked at, then that's not the fault of the bug-tracking system, it's the fault of the people who are suppo

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

On 09/24/2013 09:05 AM, jwild...@redhat.com wrote: Fedora isn't just upstream-slapped-with-a-specfile. As a distribution the resposibility is more complex: Yes, I already made that point yesterday; see https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-September/117874.html. Jóhann has respond

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

On 09/24/2013 06:17 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I comprehend very well what I'm proposing Frankly, I don't think you do. ( given I've been on the same side of the fence that reporters are for the last 5 years or more ) Oh, so now we're trotting out credentials to make our case? How about

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

On 09/24/2013 08:28 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 09/24/2013 12:19 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: . In fact, there are four stakeholders: QA, packagers, upstream, and users. What efforts are being made to solicit useful feedback from all four groups? There are 2 stake holders

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

On 09/24/2013 05:46 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Given that this would the direction we take for the next 10 years for the QA community On what basis do you assert that if we were to decide today to continue to use RHBZ to track Fedora bugs, we would be locked into that decision "for the

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

On 09/23/2013 10:03 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 09/24/2013 01:45 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: This absolutely does not scale from a POV of a user reporting bugs. Well neither does it do so from developer standpoint that also has to maintain downstream distribution bugzilla accounts.

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

On 09/23/2013 07:58 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 09/23/2013 11:55 PM, Felix Miata wrote: What to do when someone discovers what is clearly a problem but neither he nor anyone reading his report here or on devel list can tell whether the bug is in kernel, driver, xorg, gnome/kde/xfce/et

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

This is as bad of an idea now as it has been every previous time it has been suggested. 1) Many of the bugs which get filed against Fedora are just that, Fedora bugs, not bugs in upstream packages. Missing file in a package? Fedora bug. Package linked against the wrong version? Fedora bug. Bug

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

On 07/23/2013 04:00 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Are all the bugs under discussion ABRT bugs? All of the bugs which prompted me to start this thread on the test list fall into one of two categories: reproducible bugs where reproduction steps were provided, and ABRT bugs. There are no bugs in

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

On 07/23/2013 11:43 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: There is at least one objective test that can be made: Someone should try to repoduce the problem from your bug report. Cannot do it myself. Cannot get past F14. ABRT bugs are often intermittent. As I noted in an earlier email message in this thre

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

On 07/22/2013 03:47 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Perhaps in this case, any state that implies "waiting on reporter" would stop anyone else from closing the bug, but let the system time it out and auto-close it if the reporter ignores it? This is exactly how /needinfo/, which we already have, is suppose

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

On 07/22/2013 03:21 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Here it's mandatory to examine how long has been waited between posting the steps and deciding that the ticket won't be reopened. The maintainer in question has been active on bugzilla (as noted previously, he closed two other bugs of mine with INS

What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

What can be done about a package maintainer with, for lack of a better term, an ongoing attitude problem? Here are some examples of interactions I've had with this individual. I am trying to be circumspect because I'm not trying to engage in public shaming, but I really need some advice... T

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

On 07/22/2013 03:05 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: It seems to me like you don't know how to report bugs. Bug reports should include STEPS TO REPRODUCE, ALWAYS, it is not "OPTIONAL". First of all, I have, in fact, included reproduction steps in all of the bugs we're discussing here. I am dissatisfie

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

On 07/22/2013 12:58 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Look them up in the account system. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/packager and filter it or go through the list. Thank you. JK> I looked at the Wiki page for the CWG, and it doesn't have any JK> enforcement powers. Wh

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

On 07/22/2013 12:44 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: I'd suggest either the person's sponsor or https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group How does one find out someone's sponsor? I looked at the Wiki page for the CWG, and it doesn't have any enforcement powers. "Specific anti-duties of the C

Re: F18, F19 webalizer problem?

On 04/26/2013 08:58 AM, Cristian Sava wrote: Webalizer is enabled via /etc/sysconfig/webalizer but I don't understand why /etc/cron.daily/00webalizer has this line: [ "z$WEBALIZER_CRON" != "zyes" ] && exit 0 that I think it should be (and it is working this way) [ "$WEBALIZER_CRON" != "yes" ]

Re: Cannot mount Galaxy S3 any more

I have a Galaxy SIII running Android 4.1.1 (the standard Verizon Wireless image, not rooted) and Nautilus in F18 is able to mount it and access its files just fine as long as I make sure it is unlocked before I plug it in. jik -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Fedora 18: HFP/HSP Bluetooth Profile doesn't work with USB Bluetooth dongles

On Fedora 18 with all updates, I've tried two different USB Bluetooth dongles, one a generic Cambridge Silicon dongle and one much more expensive dongle from BlueRigger (BTD-400). With each of these two dongles, I attempted to use two different headsets with microphones. With both headsets and

Re: GDM: (F17, all updates) When I try to log in, login fails and I get switched to a different VT

On 05/21/2012 09:43 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: I really doubt this is true. Thank you for your confidence. gdm doesn't reuse X servers, you get one per session. It does not appear that gdm is getting to the point of successfully starting the session. Have you verified that Xorg has the same PID

Re: GDM: (F17, all updates) When I try to log in, login fails and I get switched to a different VT

On 05/21/2012 09:16 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: It could be SELinux. You should look for its messages in /var/log/audit/audit.log. # getenforce Disabled # jik -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: GDM: (F17, all updates) When I try to log in, login fails and I get switched to a different VT

On 05/21/2012 07:30 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: I can't find anything in /var/log/messages, dmesg output, ~/.xsession-errors, or /var/log/Xorg.0.log to explain this. I have auto-login configured, and if I reboot my machine, I _am_ logged in successfully. It's only when I log out and log back in again

GDM: (F17, all updates) When I try to log in, login fails and I get switched to a different VT

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823485 Anybody else seeing this? Details: I am running F17 x86_64 with all updates from updates-testing. I can't log in. When I click my name in gdm and enter my password, the display immediately switches to a different (text) VT, and when I switch

Re: "Safely Remove Drive" command gone in F17?

On 05/18/2012 04:19 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I'm really wondering what you are testing with... I am testing with F17 with all updates from updates-testing applied (just updated a few minutes ago to make sure). F17 live: There is only one menu entry, "eject". When clicked, the icon is gone from

Re: "Safely Remove Drive" command gone in F17?

On 05/18/2012 03:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I just saw on a Windows 7 machine that the menu item is labeled > "Eject" for a USB drive, so Gnome is not actually doing anything > different. One difference is that on Windows 7, in addition to the "Eject" menu command, there is also a "Safely remove d

Re: "Safely Remove Drive" command gone in F17?

On 5/16/2012 10:38 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819492 This is not the issue that I am reporting. The problem is not that the drive is taking too long to unmount -- "mount" shows that it has been unmounted, the "Unmount" menu item changes to "Mount", and

"Safely Remove Drive" command gone in F17?

I have an USB thumb drive with an LED that lights up when it is activated. On Windows, when I am done using it, I can "safely remove" the device, at which point the LED turns off and I know it is safe to unplug it from the system. I could be remembering wrong, but I thought there was an equiv

Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

On 08/05/12 10:53, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW. I have recreated you problem by editing my /etc/sysconfig/i18n file to contain #LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LANG="en_US" SYSFONT="True" on my F17 Beta test system. I then rebooted and I get exactly what you get So, I'm confident that'll fix your prob

Re: chronyd can't be disabled in F17 to use ntpd instead

On 15/05/12 11:42, Michal Jaegermann wrote: This is, admitedly, "a big gun" but systemctl mask chronyd.service does not work for you either? Didn't try it. Didn't know it existed. Most Fedora users won't know either. And a workaround is not a fix. jik -- test mailing list test@lists.

chronyd can't be disabled in F17 to use ntpd instead

Chronyd can't be disabled if you want to use ntpd instead: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821813 Ntpd doesn't do systemd properly either: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821820 This seems like it might be something that needs to be fixed before F17 is released. ji

Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

On 05/06/2012 08:27 AM, Kevin DeKorte wrote: Can you check your locale on the GDM login page? I had this problem when I upgraded to F16, in that I could not see utf-8 characters in the terminal. Turned out my locale was set to en_US.C or something like that when it should have been en_US.UTF8. Ch

Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

On 05/05/2012 11:58 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: For those of us not able to input Hebrew Could you type in a sample? Here's an example file name: 09 ביילע.mp3 Having said that, it could get corrupted by email just as easily as by ls, so I've attached a 7z file with a similar file name embedded

Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

Two additional things about this I've discovered... 1. Changing the encoding of the terminal to utf-8 in the Terminal | Set Character Encoding menu doesn't help. It changes the garbage that is displayed, but it's still garbage. 2. If I do "echo *.mp3" instead of

gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

OK, so I could be remembering wrong, but I could have sworn that at some point in the past gnome-terminal was able to display file names with utf-8 characters in them. Now, however, when I have a file on my desktop whose name looks like this: It lo

totem-mozplugin unsuccessfully tries to take over Flash games?

Don't have nspluginwrapper installed. Do have Adobe flash-plugin RPM (64-bit) installed. Recent update went from totem-mozplugin-3.4.0-1.fc17.x86_64 to totem-mozplugin-3.4.1-2.fc17.x86_64. After this, attempted to visit http://www.notdoppler.com/arachnophilia.php , and the browser tried (unsu

Re: Weird Firefox performance issue

On 05/03/2012 03:59 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: On 3.5.2012 00:31, Jonathan Kamens wrote: Frequent hangs for anywhere from a second to 30 seconds. Lack of responsiveness to key and button presses. Delays from when I clicked a scroll bar and dragged it to when the window actually scrolled. Frequent

Re: GIMP 2.8

So, I took my concerns over to the gimp-user mailing list, where apparently this issue has been argued over a number of times. According to the developer who designed and implemented this change, GIMP has a "vision" for what it wants to be and a "target audience" of intended users, and people

Re: GIMP 2.8

Dude, the only reason I continued the discussion here is because you did. :-) You're right, this is not the place. I'll take it up with the GIMP folks. Jik -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Weird Firefox performance issue

n Tue, 01 May 2012 09:50:22 -0400 >> Jonathan Kamens wrote: >> >>> Does anybody have any thoughts? >> >> My only thought is that firefox became popular mainly because >> it wasn't a slow bloated mess, now it has evolved into a slow >> bloated mess

Re: GIMP 2.8

Another option would have been the LibreOffice approach... Warn the user about saving in a non-native format but allow it (and allow the warning to be turned off). Another option would have been for the save dialog to default to FCC but allow the user to change it to any other format. Instead,

Re: GIMP 2.8

On 05/02/2012 05:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 09:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: I agree. The save vs. export thing in the new version of gimp is mind-numbingly stupid. Makes perfect sense to me. It's the same logic used in Audacity. You are always losing inform

Re: Weird Firefox performance issue

On 5/1/2012 1:53 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote: IMHO it was the restart that "fixed" it. I experience this "getting slow" think to happen for a long time. After several days of run, firefox needs to be restarted. 1. it's taking too much RAM, 2. usually causing higher CPU load than after restart with sa

Re: Weird Firefox performance issue

On 5/1/2012 10:28 AM, David wrote: The major of the 'Firefox is slow' problems are caused by misbehaving themes and extensions and the the 'remnants' that some of them leave in the configuration files. Yes, I'm aware of that, but that doesn't explain why moving my entire ~/.mozilla/firefox direc

Weird Firefox performance issue

Hi everyone, I was seeing really, really poor performance from Firefox. I'm not sure exactly when it started being a problem, but it was going on for at least a week and I certainly saw it with Firefox 12 (in F17 x86_64). I thought I would try moving my profile out of the way to see if perfo

Re: GIMP 2.8

I agree. The save vs. export thing in the new version of gimp is mind-numbingly stupid. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Karel Volný wrote: > > Dear GIMP lovers, > > for the first time after update to Fedora 17, I've needed to do > some simple edits to a few photos. > > Now

Re: yum update failed today with....

On 4/25/2012 12:47 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: Isn't it common to also include the directories you want to place files into? $ rpm -ql google-chrome-stable | grep /bin /usr/bin /usr/bin/google-chrome No. This is not correct packaging. It is reasonable for an RPM to /require /the presence of the sys

Re: yum update failed today with....

That would seem to be an issue with the google-chrome-unstable RPM, which almost certainly should not package /usr/bin. Since that RPM is provided by Google, not by Fedora, you need to take it up with them. jik On 4/25/2012 12:40 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /usr

Re: Is firefox crashing for anybody else?

On 04/19/2012 07:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Not seeing it But, you've not given enough information to assist in trying to duplicate. Extensions installed? Site(s) being visited? I was not asking for help duplicating it, but rather just making an initial inquiry to find out if others are ex

Is firefox crashing for anybody else?

Firefox has crashed several times for me in the past few days. I bugzilla'd it through abrt. This seems like a major issue... I don't think a Fedora release can ship with a browser that keeps crashing. Is anybody else seeing this? jik -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Kernel modules moved to kernel-modules-extra should be documented in release notes

My traffic control init script started failing after the upgrade to F17, because the required scheduling modules were moved into kernel-modules-extra, which I didn't have installed. I checked http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_release_notes and did not find this documented there.

Re: automatically mounting physically attached media (was Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER)

On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted. Why not? In F16, it was mounted. In Windows, it's mounted. In Mac OS, it's mounted. Why should F17 behave differently from F17 and from every other mainstream OS people are familiar with? What i

Re: automatically mounting physically attached media (was Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER)

should have been remounted under your $USER. jik On 04/18/2012 02:40 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: >> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: >> >>> Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want

Re: automatically mounting physically attached media (was Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER)

On 04/18/2012 01:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > If you set a specific mount location for a device in that tool - i.e. in > fstab - it will be used even if the device is connected after login. Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want. If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /

Re: automatically mounting physically attached media (was Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER)

OK, so I took a look at the GNOME "Disks" utility, which I was finally able to get to run without crashing, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't resolve my main complaint with the new F17 behavior. Yes, I can use the Disks utility to configure removable devices, e.g., my DVD drive, to mount on sta

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

On 04/17/2012 10:12 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: I just dug in. You can use the "disks" utility in gnome3 to mark your partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you want to mount them, properties etc. Would love to give that a try. Unfortunately, it coredumps for me on startup.

Re: Inadequate sound device control

On 4/17/2012 7:25 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: Well put Adam, thanks. That being said, we certainly want to provide enough control to let people use their sound cards. If something is missing, by all means, let us know. But "I need control on the level of " is not a very concrete description of wha

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

On 4/16/2012 2:09 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jonathan Kamens (j...@kamens.us) said: It is absurdly unpredictable that if I stick a DVD in my drive after logging in, it is mounted underneath /run/media/$USER, but if my computer than crashes, or I reboot it by hand, and I log in immediately after

Re: Inadequate sound device control

On 04/15/2012 09:48 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: 'yum search pulse' shows, among many other things, these: paman.x86_64 : Management tool for PulseAudio paprefs.x86_64 : Management tool for PulseAudio pavumeter.x86_64 : Volume meter for PulseAudio Maybe some of these will do what you desire? N

Re: Inadequate sound device control

On 04/15/2012 04:27 PM, stan wrote: A thought on this. I'm not that familiar with pulseaudio, but some of these settings *are* available in the pavucontrol application. It is a separate package you can install, called, strangely enough, pavucontrol. There are other pulse control applications, a

Re: Inadequate sound device control

On 04/15/2012 02:12 PM, stan wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:32:27 -0400 Jonathan Kamens wrote: In particular, I would like to be able to control things at this level: came through blank here http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/attachments/20120415/a0f1597e/attachment-0001.png

Inadequate sound device control

I finally uninstalled the long-orphaned gmixer RPM when I upgraded to F17. I clung to gmixer for far longer than I should have because as far as I could tell, it was the only GUI which gave me granular access to sound settings. I've searched in F17 since uni

Default GNOME screenshot behavior is incorrect?

As far as I can tell, the default behavior of GNOME's screenshot functionality is to silently save a copy of the screen shot in a file within ~/Pictures. This strikes me as non-intuitive, incorrect behavior. How is the end user supposed to know where the heck the picture was saved? There's no

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

/media to /run/media/$USER is a good idea, and I'm reserving judgment on that, clearly the behavior I just described above is entirely unexpected by the user and therefore wrong. Jonathan Kamens -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: Repeated F17 gnome-shell crash, with fix

On 4/5/2012 8:06 AM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: Have you confirmed that is the same crash and the same fix? Never mind, I checked and it is in fact the same crash and the same fix. jik -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Repeated F17 gnome-shell crash, with fix

Have you confirmed that is the same crash and the same fix? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2012, at 7:55 AM, M A Young wrote: > On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > >> I tried to restart gnome-shell this evening with Alt-F2 r RET, and it >> crashed on restart. The

Repeated F17 gnome-shell crash, with fix

I tried to restart gnome-shell this evening with Alt-F2 r RET, and it crashed on restart. Then it crashed again when I tried to log in again. Then several more times. Then again after I restarted. Seeing as how I had no other choice if I wanted to actually log in, I downloaded and installed al

Re: Issues encountered upgrading with yum from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17

The dhcpd problem was an invalid bug report. The named issue, however, is a switch from initscripts to systemd, so I think it just needs an update to the upgrading with yum wiki page. Jik Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 23:25 +

Re: Issues encountered upgrading with yum from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17

On 4/2/2012 3:38 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 00:16 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: After the upgrade, both named.service and dhcpd.service were disabled in systemd, even though they were both enabled prior to the upgrade. Perhaps this is because named and dhcpd were switched

Re: Issues encountered upgrading with yum from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17

On 04/01/2012 12:16 AM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: Not relevant to Fedora /per se/, but I had trouble rebuilding my Thunderbird tree after the upgrade because hg now returns a non-zero exit status when there are no changes to pull, and the client.py script in the Thunderbird source tree for

Re: Reminder: Fedora 16 is now stable

It seems to me that the appropriate distinction is not between stable releases and releases in testing, but rather between testing-related messages and non-testing-related messages. If, for example, someone encounters a bug in F16 and wants to know whether it might be known to others before fi

Re: Nautilus 3.2.1 Does Not Work

1. It was entirely unnecessary for you to quote an entire list digest in a message that had nothing to do with anything in the digest. 2. You're going to need to be a lot more specific than "has never worked" if you expect anyone to be able to help you. As you pointed out, no one else has repo

Re: How can I reply to a thread in the digest?

On 11/5/2011 2:16 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: I am running Thunderbird 7.01 on 64 bit Fedora 16 RC5. I tried installing the "undigestfy" plug-in but it complains the Fedora test list digest is in an improper format. It is, in fact, in an improper format. Mailman is violating RFC 1153

Re: newegg.com and firefox on fedora 16?

On 11/03/2011 04:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Explain yourself out of that one. I'm done with this thread. I do not understand why you feel the need to be so confrontational and hostile about this issue. It is neither productive nor helpful, and it has the tendency to scare off testers fro

Re: newegg.com and firefox on fedora 16?

On 11/03/2011 04:35 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: The price is ASCII text embedded in the HTML page. Actually, if I understood correctly, what I believe he said was that the price data was fetched and inserted into the page by JavaScript, and the JavaScript code in question was unable to resol

Re: abrtd not working in F16 beta?

rustworthy enough? *shrug* jik On 10/27/2011 12:19 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: On 10/27/2011 12:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 15:31 +0200, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: Also, it appears that the abrt-ccpp service wasn't enabled, and I suspect that's the problem I

Re: abrtd not working in F16 beta?

On 10/27/2011 12:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 15:31 +0200, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: Also, it appears that the abrt-ccpp service wasn't enabled, and I suspect that's the problem I'm seeing. I just ran "systemctl enable abrt-ccpp.service" to fix that issue. Shouldn't it have

Re: abrtd not working in F16 beta?

I wrote: On 10/27/2011 08:08 AM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: $ service abrt-ccpp restart Didn't fix the problem. Still nothing happens when GnuCash crashes (a crash which I can reproduce at will, so it's an easy test case). Actually, I take that back, I think restarting did fix the problem. It's j

Re: abrtd not working in F16 beta?

On 10/27/2011 8:46 AM, Richard Marko wrote: On 10/27/2011 02:42 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: On 10/27/2011 08:08 AM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: $ service abrt-ccpp restart Didn't fix the problem. Still nothing happens when GnuCash crashes (a crash which I can reproduce at will, so it'

Re: abrtd not working in F16 beta?

On 10/27/2011 08:08 AM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: $ service abrt-ccpp restart Didn't fix the problem. Still nothing happens when GnuCash crashes (a crash which I can reproduce at will, so it's an easy test case). $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern drop here output from core_pattern |/usr/libex

Re: abrtd not working in F16 beta?

This problem is happening to me again... GnuCash crashed on my several times last night and abrt didn't say anything at all. GnuCash logs in /var/log/messages: Oct 26 22:58:51 jik2 kernel: [54141.937933] gnucash[19580]: segfault at 58 ip 003712a8399d sp 7fff52d700c0 error 4 in libgtk-

Re: Rawhide Updates Borked?

Be more specific about what's going wrong? On 10/26/2011 1:08 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Haven't been able to update rawhide since 24 Oct. Issues? TIA -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

dbus suddenly stops working even though it still seems to be running

Greetings, Mail-notification crashed on me recently and when I tried to restart it it claimed that it couldn't get to dbus to read its configuration. Dbus processes appeared to be running, and I hadn't been logged in for all that long so I don't think it's a question of an old socket being p

Re: Thunderbird Autocomplete Broken F16 TC2

On 10/23/2011 3:50 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Now when I type the "e" Thunderbird pulls an address with "faught" and appends the e to it. Not useful. I do not see this behavior. What desktop are you using? I wonder if there may be a bad interaction between the desktop / window ma

Re: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed.

On 10/18/2011 12:16 PM, clum...@redhat.com wrote: The corner case here is what you are describing. I can't remember a time anyone has ever asked to do this And yet several people here on your volunteer test team, the people who are willing and able to use new releases early so that problems are

Re: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed.

On 10/18/2011 11:58 AM, Chris Lumens wrote: The amount of work you're describing here is huge, and the number of people who would benefit from such a setup is very small. I'd guess that for whatever scenario you can imagine, another scenario can be imagined that would not be able to be handled.

Re: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed.

On 10/18/2011 11:41 AM, Chris Lumens wrote: I think this is completely unreasonable to expect. You think we should be able to take a /, which might have the leftovers of previous failed installations, do an install on top of that without removing what was there, and the result should be a fully

Re: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed.

On 10/18/2011 11:17 AM, Chris Lumens wrote: There's nothing arbitrary about this. We got no end of bugs from people trying to do an install over top of an existing install, perhaps one that was successful, and perhaps one that was only halfway done. We need to be able to start from a known stat

Can't see groups?

: jik2:~!1022$ sudo chmod 770 /tmp/test jik2:~!1023$ touch /tmp/test/write-test touch: cannot touch `/tmp/test/write-test': Permission denied jik2:~!1024$ I have selinux disabled. Any suggestions for what's going on here and how to fix it would be very much appreciated. It is causing p

Re: OK, how do you really update the grub2 config file?

On 10/10/2011 1:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: That would be another good choice: Remove grub2-mkconfig from the package, remove the comment from the file, remove all the bits of grub skeleton from /etc and just tell folks to edit the file directly. You can't remove grub2-mkconfig; it needs to be th

Re: abrtd not working in F16 beta?

On 10/10/2011 3:42 AM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: All information should be in /var/log/message. Could you paste here $ cat /var/log/messages | grep abrtd Here are all "abrtd" and "segfault" lines in /var/log/messages between the last time I rebooted and when gnucash segfaulted and abrtd did nothin

Re: tracker-miner-fs consuming lots of CPU?

On 10/09/2011 05:41 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Last month's "New bugs in updates" thread contained a subthread on "tracker search tool". There are a couple of issues with tracker. * It indexes removable devices by default. Doesn't appear to be the case with my F16 beta install. I didn't turn

tracker-miner-fs consuming lots of CPU?

I don't know whether Tracker is new or just updated in F16. I certainly never noticed it running on my system before upgrading recently to F16. What I'm noticing now is that it's tacking up a huge amount of CPU. Not disk I/O, mind you, but CPU. Right now it's consuming well over 50% of one of

abrtd not working in F16 beta?

Sorry if this has been covered already, I just turned my list subscription back on. Gnucash just segfaulted on me. It clearly shows the segfault in /var/log/messages and dmesg, but abrtd didn't do anything. It appears to be running: root 863 0.0 0.0 127068 1600 ?Ss 08:59

F16 Beta yum upgrade and initial impressions report

I did a yum distro-sync upgrade last night from F15 to F16 beta on my x86_64 desktop with an ASUS P5Q SE2 motherboard. Here are the problems I encountered and my initial impressions. I've been away from this list for a while, so forgiv

Re: Applets

Holy cow, what incredibly pointless bickering. Grow up and act like adults, please. All of you. On both sides of the issue. You're all right. GNOME 3 is going to be awesome. People are working really hard on it, and what they're creating is really sweet. When it ships, it will be missing a lot

RE: Clumsy Favorites in GNOME Shell

I think the assumption is that if you already have the application open, you can open another window easily within the application itself so it makes more sense to put the open command in the shell on the right-click menu. This is consistent with the Windows 7 behavior, which I find quite intuitiv

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