Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 09:10 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > Now you might believe that yum group list would show all groups ... it > does not. Give the follow a try: > > yum group info gnome\* > yum group info kde\* > yum group info xfce\* > yum group info cinnamon\* > yum group

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-07 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On 11/05/2014 07:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 16:13 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Bill, Stephen, Matt, Kalev - I think we could stand to take another look at this. I see two immediate issues: 2) We just don't have a good story for installing extra desktops post-install an

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 11:18 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Perhaps something where each product's metadata defines the environment > groups to include the appropriate fedora-release- package, but the > environment groups in the general case *don't*? Not sure that's possible, > and it might lead t

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 09:29 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/06/14 08:13, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Bill, Stephen, Matt, Kalev - I think we could stand to take another look > > at this. I see two immediate issues: > > > > 1) Workstation is set up rather differently to the other desktop-y > > produ

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 11:18:28AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > That would be sort of how I'd expect it to work, yes. But do people mixing > and matching desktops post-install want installing 'GNOME' (defined > nebulously here) to workstation-ize their system? I don't think we want that, no. An

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) said: > 1) Workstation is set up rather differently to the other desktop-y > products/environments. There's rather an overlap between the > 'workstation-product' group and the 'gnome-desktop' group. I'd sort of > expect the 'workstation-product-environm

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/06/14 08:13, Adam Williamson wrote: > Bill, Stephen, Matt, Kalev - I think we could stand to take another look > at this. I see two immediate issues: > > 1) Workstation is set up rather differently to the other desktop-y > products/environments. There's rather an overlap between the > 'workst

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 16:13 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Bill, Stephen, Matt, Kalev - I think we could stand to take another look > at this. I see two immediate issues: > 2) We just don't have a good story for installing extra desktops > post-install any more. The only 'desktop' groups visible

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 07:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/06/14 07:34, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > > > > On 11/5/2014 3:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 11/06/14 07:06, Adrian wrote: > >>> What is the advantage of using dnf instead of yum ? > >>> > >>> > > This command works with f21-live-workstati

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 07:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/06/14 07:06, Adrian wrote: > > > > What is the advantage of using dnf instead of yum ? > > > > > > None > > yum group install gnome-desktop > > Would have worked just as well > > The *problem* however is finding this out when

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/06/14 07:34, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > > On 11/5/2014 3:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/06/14 07:06, Adrian wrote: >>> What is the advantage of using dnf instead of yum ? >>> >>> > This command works with f21-live-workstation Beta_FinalTC-1 x86_64 DVD>HD > install (with yum update run first

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Adrian
Ok, I went from the Gnome desktop in workstation to KDE, with |yum groupinstall"KDE Plasma Workspaces"| with no issue. I installed the rc4 just before official beta release. [root@fedora21desk yum.repos.d]# cat fedora-updates.repo [updates] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates failover

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Thomas Gilliard
On 11/5/2014 3:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/06/14 07:06, Adrian wrote: What is the advantage of using dnf instead of yum ? This command works with f21-live-workstation Beta_FinalTC-1 x86_64 DVD>HD install (with yum update run first) yum install @sugar-desktop @KDE-desktop None yum

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/06/14 07:06, Adrian wrote: > > What is the advantage of using dnf instead of yum ? > > None yum group install gnome-desktop Would have worked just as well The *problem* however is finding this out when a list of the groups doesn't show it in either yum or dnf. -- If you can't

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Adrian
What is the advantage of using dnf instead of yum ? Adrian Fewster -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/06/14 06:44, Reynold wrote: > > On 11/05/2014 02:00 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote: >> On 11/05/2014 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Sun, 20

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Reynold
On 11/05/2014 02:00 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote: On 11/05/2014 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/06/14 06:00, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > OK, try some of the following: > >yum -v group list > which should list the groups available. > >yum -v group info workstation-product-environment > > which shows workstation-product > >and finally yum -v info workstation-product > which s

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On 11/05/2014 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-10-26

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread poma
On 05.11.2014 11:25, poma wrote: > On 05.11.2014 11:11, poma wrote: >>>Fedora Workstation >> > > or maybe not > "... a reliable, user-friendly and powerful operating system for laptops and > PC hardware." > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation > > So yum is offering a whole system to in

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread poma
On 05.11.2014 11:11, poma wrote: >>Fedora Workstation > or maybe not "... a reliable, user-friendly and powerful operating system for laptops and PC hardware." http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation So yum is offering a whole system to install inside already system installed, not a desk

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread poma
>Fedora Workstation -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > There is a "Fedora Workstation" but that can't be installed due to I have a similar issue actually, but the other way around: Fresh F21 beta workstation install. I tried to install KDE using dnf, but fedora-release-workstation and fedora-

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/05/14 16:59, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 13:35 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko w

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 13:35 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williams

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/05/14 14:09, Andrei Amuraritei wrote: > how about: dnf group install 'GNOME Desktop Environment' > This works here. [root@localhost ~]# dnf group install 'GNOME Desktop Environment' Error: No relevant match for the specified 'GNOME Desktop Environment'. [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/fedora-r

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-04 Thread Andrei Amuraritei
On Wednesday, November 05, 2014 01:35:24 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-11-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko w

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-10-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/26/14 11:06, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko w

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > After doing a KDE install from t

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-10-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/26/14 10:48, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: After doing a KDE install from the Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Beta ISO I wanted to a

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> After doing a KDE install from the Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Beta > >> ISO I wanted to add GNOME to the mix. > >> > >> In the past, e

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-10-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/26/14 10:40, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> After doing a KDE install from the Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Beta ISO >> I wanted to add GNOME to the mix. >> >> In the past, even on B-TC4 I believe, I simply did "yum groupinstall "GNOME >>

Re: Adding GNOME ....

2014-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 10:20 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > After doing a KDE install from the Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Beta ISO I > wanted to add GNOME to the mix. > > In the past, even on B-TC4 I believe, I simply did "yum groupinstall "GNOME > Desktop"". However, now that choice no longer

Adding GNOME ....

2014-10-25 Thread Ed Greshko
After doing a KDE install from the Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Beta ISO I wanted to add GNOME to the mix. In the past, even on B-TC4 I believe, I simply did "yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop"". However, now that choice no longer exists when doing "yum grouplist". There is a "Fedora Worksta