Installed F22 Alpha TC8 from Workstation Live with gnome desktop. I'm
using nautilus as desktop file manager.
If I select gnome on wayland as gdm login option, nautilus crashes
after login. Starting nautilus manually, I get an error message:
(nautilus:7149): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid
Hi,
when I bootet Fedora 18 this morning I got the following message (German, I
have German language installed): Das laden von GNOME 3 schlug
fehl,...Das bedeutet, dass ihre Grafik Hardware nicht fuer die
vollstaendige GNOME 3 Umgebung geeignet ist.
(.Your Grafik Hardware
2012/4/19 John Morris jmor...@beau.org
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:22 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:04 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
I know this doesn´t solve my problem, but I´m outraged.
In general, we expect an application to bring a suitable desktop file so
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 09:07 +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
with a chance this was already mentioned, what's a good place to learn
how to create those .desktop files?
If you want to do it by hand, the easiest thing to do is probably just
to copy an existing one and modify it to your needs.
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On 18.04.2012 07:46, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Am I missing something obvious?
Run program, right-click entry in sidebar, click Add to Favorites, perhaps?
Jan
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But no, right clicking on empty space doesn't do diddly squat in the
Gnome 3 Applications screen.
I do not think a click on nothing is persuasively intuative as a way to
create an application launcher.
Who wants diddly squats littering the screen, anyway?
For programs that can be found through
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 05:55, Jan Wildeboer jwild...@redhat.com wrote:
On 18.04.2012 07:46, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Am I missing something obvious?
Run program, right-click entry in sidebar, click Add to Favorites, perhaps?
Jan
who mentioned favorites??
Let me repeat:
I download a Java app
On 04/18/2012 07:56 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:48, Richard Ryniker ryni...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
I suspect your concern may be for an easy way to add new programs
to the Applications function, which is a more obscure matter. Something
that creates a .desktop file in
heard of it...
And I´ve used a number of desktops from GEOS back in the Commodore 64
days to AmigaOS to the OS/2 Workplace Shell. None were as awkward and
incomplete as Gnome 3.x is in some areas.
I know this doesn´t solve my problem, but I´m outraged.
FC
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:48, Richard Ryniker ryni...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
I do not think a click on nothing is persuasively intuative as a way to
create an application launcher.
Right clicking over something to obtain a pop-up menu of actions to
perform on it is an almost universal metaphor in
On 18/04/12 19:07, Fernando Cassia wrote:
It has worked that way from the OS/2 Workplace Shell (whose paradigm
was ´everything is an object´) to Windows, too... (and previous Gnome
versions).
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Unfortunately CUA is going (gone) the way of the DoDo
Hi Frank,
What, you read my rant? :)
http://news.techeye.net/software/software-gui-design-going-to-hell-in-a-basket
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On 18/04/12 19:15, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 15:10, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com
mailto:frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately CUA is going (gone) the way of the DoDo
Hi Frank,
What, you read my rant? :)
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 15:17, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
No, just studied sw design for a bit.
:))
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:22 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:04 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
I know this doesn´t solve my problem, but I´m outraged.
In general, we expect an application to bring a suitable desktop file so
it is usable after you installed it. That is
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 01:02:31PM +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote:
With Gnome3 there is really no connection to old Gnome at all -- and I
sincerely believe this project would have found a more comfortable
niche had it been named something different entirely. The name Gnome
Shell seems to have been a
=803430#c4
My reaction to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
no apps have menu bars and you only discover them by
accident when you happen to mouse over the unity panel?
No.
Does anyone understand the logic behind
Application global actions (ones not tied to specific windows or for
single window apps) can be optionally placed in the application menu
by the app.
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4
My reaction to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
no apps have menu bars and you only discover them by
accident when you happen to mouse over the unity panel?
No.
Does
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote:
Application global actions (ones not tied to specific windows or for
single window apps) can be optionally placed in the application menu
by the app.
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu
How
-foop) menu has
moved from the app itself to the gnome-shell panel:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4
My reaction to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
no apps have menu bars and you only discover them
On 03/26/2012 08:26 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
This bug casually mentions that an app (swell-foop) menu has
moved from the app itself to the gnome-shell panel:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4
My reaction to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com
wrote:
Application global actions (ones not tied to specific windows or
for
single window apps) can be optionally placed in the application
menu
by the app.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com
wrote:
Application global actions (ones not tied to specific windows or
for
single window apps) can be optionally placed in the application
menu
by the
:
This bug casually mentions that an app (swell-foop) menu has
moved from the app itself to the gnome-shell panel:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4
My reaction to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
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No.
If you say so... but I'd like to point out that having a place where an
application might or might not place some
Didn't GNOME developers really think about people who want to
access the global menu with a single shortcut?
Suggest one and file a bug (upstream).
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672909
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Gnome at all was to make it an easy shoe-in for Fedora (and later Red Hat)
mainstream acceptance by promoting this very misconception, for example.
The backward compatibility issue and the confusion about how interfaces are
supposed to be designed by application developers for Gnome 3 trace back
This bug casually mentions that an app (swell-foop) menu has
moved from the app itself to the gnome-shell panel:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4
My reaction to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
no apps have menu
to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
no apps have menu bars and you only discover them by
accident when you happen to mouse over the unity panel?
Does anyone understand the logic behind this apparent
wildly popular meme of hiding essential controls
itself to the gnome-shell panel:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4
My reaction to this is What in the $#@! is going on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
no apps have menu bars and you only discover them by
accident when you happen to mouse over the unity
on?!?.
Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where
no apps have menu bars and you only discover them by
accident when you happen to mouse over the unity panel?
No.
Does anyone understand the logic behind this apparent
wildly popular meme of hiding essential controls where
no one
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 06:25:09PM -0300, pringle...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, i upgrade to fedora 17 from fedora 16 with no issues. I try to login
to Gnome Shell but the warning that say Oh no! and ask to logout show up.
I had the same problem and there were some javascript errors from
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Michele Baldessari mich...@acksyn.orgwrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 06:25:09PM -0300, pringle...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, i upgrade to fedora 17 from fedora 16 with no issues. I try to
login
to Gnome Shell but the warning that say Oh no! and ask to
Hi, i upgrade to fedora 17 from fedora 16 with no issues. I try to login to
Gnome Shell but the warning that say Oh no! and ask to logout show up. The
funny thing was that in my setup (dual monitors) the rest of the login
process continue (in one monitor the warning in the other the rest of stuff
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ruy,
Are you using i386 or amd64 version of Fedora17?
How did you upgrade? Please provide us with the steps to reproduce the
problem.
I am about to do an upgrade on a Fedora 16 i386 host right now for testing
Ruy,
I will be testing that right now and will get back to you shortly.
Thanks,
Dan
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:30 PM, pringle...@gmail.com
pringle...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ruy,
Are you using i386 or amd64 version of
Ruy,
Did you install using preupgrade or the DVD?
I used preupgrade and got a kernel panic.
Dan
On Mar 5, 2012 1:31 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
Ruy,
I will be testing that right now and will get back to you shortly.
Thanks,
Dan
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:30 PM,
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 15:20 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
Ruy,
Did you install using preupgrade or the DVD?
I used preupgrade and got a kernel panic.
preupgrade is highly likely to be completely borked at present, to my
knowledge no attempt has been made to set up preupgrade to work for f17
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 15:20 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
Ruy,
Did you install using preupgrade or the DVD?
I used preupgrade and got a kernel panic.
preupgrade is highly likely to be completely borked at present,
Ruy,
I was able to upgrade using the DVD from f16 i386 - f17 i386. I am able to
login to both Gnome, KDE and XFCE.
Can you give us some more details on the errors you are getting?
Dan
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM, pringle...@gmail.com
pringle...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
Ruy,
I was able to upgrade using the DVD from f16 i386 - f17 i386. I am able
to login to both Gnome, KDE and XFCE.
Can you give us some more details on the errors you are getting?
Dan
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM,
Yes, it's definitely possibly your hardware breaks with the new kernel. I'm
using virtualbox so life is easier for me.
I would suggest running a yum update or compiling kernel 3.3rc6 next from
source and see if that helps.
kernel 3.3rc6 should be in the updates-testing repo soon either way.
Dan
I am not enamoured with Gnome 3, ergo I switched to graphics off mode, and
found that when I put a launcher on the top bar (bar where date is in the
center), that by clicking on that launcher (which by the way is not removable
or moveable), then Gnome crashes, with a logout occurring.
I chose
On 06/05/2011 09:59 PM, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
Another bug is in gnome3 mode, with the many icons, it seems that from
the quick launch bar, I may not start two copies of a program. In the
past I often had two terminals open, which implied two distinct
processes and had two terminals on
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 08:59, Leslie S Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.comwrote:
which by the way is not removable or moveable
Use ALT-click to modify panel applets in fallback mode.
(By the way, your use of table for the body of the email made it extremely
difficult to trim the quoted text of
have read several of your posts expressing concerns over the state
and functionality of Gnome.
Fedora is so much more than Gnome 3 ... I would encourage you to try
a different DE - most people I know who have not been thrilled with the
direction of Gnome have turned to either xfce or kde - you
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Lawrence E Graves
lgra...@risingstarmbc.com wrote:
I have read all of the opinions about Gnome 3 and was reluctant to
participate in the discussion but something would not let me leave it
alone.
Many of you have purchased new cars and I am quite sure there were
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:46, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote:
it looks like
this car has gas and brake pedals swapped and steering wheel is
nowhere to be found..
How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you
when the starting point is absurd hyperbole?
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On 05/31/2011 12:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you
when the starting point is absurd hyperbole?
Jason, it seems the discussion is becoming so heated that you are
replying to the wrong thread.
It might be good for everyone to take
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:07, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
On 05/31/2011 12:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you
when the starting point is absurd hyperbole?
..
you are
replying to the wrong thread.
What do you mean?
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:46, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote:
it looks like
this car has gas and brake pedals swapped and steering wheel is
nowhere to be found..
How can you expect anyone to have a productive
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 14:18, Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com wrote:
So, lets tackle the screensaver issue again. As I understand from
your answer there are currently no plans to return screensavers other
than blank screen - it is not a temporary matter of lack of resources.
I would like to see
On 05/31/2011 12:13 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
What do you mean? I quoted the hyperbole.
I just received Pasha's initial e-mail, which you quoted. My mistake.
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applies or not?
Anyhow, For the users that don't like Gnome 3 I like the Dennis Green Quote :)
Q: Who were
On 06/01/2011 07:49 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
A happy KDE 4.6.X, Gnome 3/Gnome 2.32.X/XFCE/LXDE user:)
All/Most of the desktops have an equal opportunity to be in my machines and I
am happy to have them too!
+1
FWIW, the network management GUIs of both GNOME and KDE have
deficiencies
On 05/31/2011 12:18 PM, Pasha R wrote:
So, lets tackle the screensaver issue again. As I understand from
your answer there are currently no plans to return screensavers other
than blank screen - it is not a temporary matter of lack of resources.
I would like to see this decision reversed.
FYI:
GNOME Discusses Becoming a Linux-only Project
http://www.osnews.com/story/24762/GNOME_Discusses_Becoming_a_Linux-only_Project
read the comments below the article !
There are actually two developments (proposals):
- proposal for systemd to become blessed external dependency for GNOME 3
):
- proposal for systemd to become blessed external dependency for GNOME 3
- proposal for GNOME to be Linux-only project
Wrong: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00478.html
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of Gnome 3 is rough too.
Otherwise Gnome 3 is a pretty and new environment --it's a nice change though I
don't that I will adopt it.
Great work everyone and props to the virtualbox guys too.
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On 9 May 2011 23:50, ergodic g...@embarqmail.com wrote:
The gnome-control-center crashes every time the Spyder-3 color calibrator is
connected to the usb port in Fedora 15_x86_64. Is this a bug or an
incompatibility of the Spyder-3 Elite with Gnome-3? The Spyder-3 and
Gnome-2 have work
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 10:31 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
On the first login after installation of F15 TC1 a screen comes up
telling me, that GNOME 3 Failed to Load.
During the installation I that the step Detecting hardware takes a
very long time and is done twice. Could this be related
First, I'm going to try to get back into testing. Life has been overwhelming
over the past few months
(deaths in the family, stolen vehicle with my new laptop inside, two moves, and
getting hit by tornadoes).
Anyhow, after mucking about with Gnome 3, I do rather like it. I won't use
On the first login after installation of F15 TC1 a screen comes up
telling me, that GNOME 3 Failed to Load.
During the installation I that the step Detecting hardware takes a
very long time and is done twice. Could this be related?
Is this of interest and if so, what information is needed
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 11:21 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
On Tuesday 26 of April 2011 17:28:35 Adam Williamson wrote:
...
Obsessively follow? All you had to do was install Fedora 12,
13 or 14 and hit the 'GNOME Shell' button in desktop-effects.
so ... how do you know there is some 'GNOME
On 05/04/2011 06:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 11:21 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
snip
Well, you had to use Desktop Effects to turn on Compiz, and lots of
people seem to have figured _that_ out. It was only in the feature list,
and in every Fedora review ever, and, you
--- On Sat, 4/30/11, ergodic g...@embarqmail.com wrote:
From: ergodic g...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: where do I put a command to setup keyboard shortcuts for Gnome 3
To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 8
wrote:
Fedora, as a volunteeer effort, cannot.
It's worse. I fear Fedora will loose contributors, because Fedora is not
shipping the DE these users want.
We ship every major currently maintained desktop. Which one do you think
is missing?
Adam, please.
All of this thread is about Gnome 3
The attached document Gnome3Help
has some good information about Gnome 3. Compose Key
(pg.11) will do for ñ or accentuation like the a in está.
For my purposes I assigned TheCompose Key to the
Pose/Brake key.
May I ask which one is that key? I tried the right alt key to compose, but I
has some good information about Gnome 3. Compose Key
(pg.11) will do for ñ or accentuation like the a in está.
For my purposes I assigned TheCompose Key to the
Pose/Brake key.
May I ask which one is that key? I tried the right alt key to
compose, but I get a way to switch between
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 11:21 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
On Tuesday 26 of April 2011 17:28:35 Adam Williamson wrote:
...
Obsessively follow? All you had to do was install Fedora 12,
13 or 14 and hit the 'GNOME Shell' button in desktop-effects.
so ... how do you know there is some 'GNOME
--- On Wed, 4/27/11, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com
Subject: where do I put a command to setup keyboard shortcuts for Gnome 3
To: fedora-test-list test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:29 PM
Dear
I am testing F15 beta fully updated as of today and have noticed the following:
1. Shut Down is missing, only Switch User, Log Out and Suspend is available.
2. According to the manual
(http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-terminal/stable/gnome-terminal-get-started.html.en)
Gnome-terminal is
On 04/28/2011 01:04 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
I am testing F15 beta fully updated as of today and have noticed the
following:
1. Shut Down is missing, only Switch User, Log Out and Suspend is available.
Press alt key when the menu is visible or install
On 04/27/2011 09:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Debian turned aways from libc, SUSE has always followed KDE, ... Many
Fedora packagers do so on the package level, when upstreams die or go
nuts.
Ein minute bitte.. that's a touch revisionist, isn't it?
Yes, Debian was not the first distribution
On 28/04/11 10:22, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Press alt key when the menu is visible or install
gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu
A side question, yum list gnome-shell-extension* reveals 8 such extensions in
total, where can I read detailed about them?
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On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 23:14 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 04/27/2011 11:11 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
...
You forgot the other old guideline for all mailing lists
3. Keep ones signature to a minimum.
4) do it in private email instead of blasting the entire group ...
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:22:17PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 19:01 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
In other words Gnome and Fedora (Both projects dominated by a single
enterprise) haved decided to switch their target audience.
I wouldn't say Fedora is dominated by a
On 04/28/2011 11:19 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:22:17PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 19:01 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
In other words Gnome and Fedora (Both projects dominated by a single
enterprise) haved decided to switch their target audience.
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 21:48 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
I am sure that list could be compiled
I want the following features:
1). The ability to control what is on the panels. I want a
clock/calendar applet that I can place in the top-right corner of the
screen. I want a session switcher in the
Jon Masters jonathan at jonmasters.org writes:
...
I want the following features:
...
In short, I want GNOME 2.x back. It was absolutely perfect for my needs
and I had very few non-trivial bug related complaints :)
...
Amen, Sir !
It begs the question, you have had a good day today.
JB
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28/04/11 10:22, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Press alt key when the menu is visible or install
gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu
A side question, yum list gnome-shell-extension* reveals 8 such extensions in
I've been fiddling with my f15 beta partition again, trying to
use gnome-shell some more and have some additional observations:
There is a category of apps in the Applications menu called
other. Virtually everything in there is something I'd put
in system tools. Network connections, Users, System
On 29 April 2011 06:48, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been fiddling with my f15 beta partition again, trying to
use gnome-shell some more and have some additional observations:
There is a category of apps in the Applications menu called
other. Virtually everything in there is
want.
We ship every major currently maintained desktop. Which one do you think
is missing?
Adam, please.
All of this thread is about Gnome 3 not being a replacement for what
used to be Gnome 2,
I don't think you carefully read what Adam wrote:
We ship every major *currently maintained
Fedora is not
shipping the DE these users want.
We ship every major currently maintained desktop. Which one do you think
is missing?
Adam, please.
All of this thread is about Gnome 3 not being a replacement for what
used to be Gnome 2,
I don't think you carefully read what Adam wrote:
I did
On 04/27/2011 02:13 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/27/2011 10:21 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
I don't think you carefully read what Adam wrote:
I did ... my feel Adam doesn't want to understand.
Claiming that the other person doesn't understand whenever there is a
disagreement is just not going to
On 04/27/2011 04:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Even if
one does a fork, the track record of Trinity KDE shows how many
developers are willing to do that type of work and how many users it
will likely have.
Very true
I remember all the uproar with KDE 4 in the Fedora lists. I was just
On 04/26/2011 11:12 PM, David L wrote:
- The panel on the top is mostly wasted space AFAICT and
I haven't figured out how to add a custom launcher that my
5 year old is used to. Am I missing something?
Clearly, your 5 year old is broken.
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:56:45 +0200, you wrote:
On 04/26/2011 05:23 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
As much as I dislike Gnome 3 and am considering my alternatives, it is
very unfair to dump on Fedora for the problems with Gnome 3.
Why? I think it's appropriate to dump Fedora because
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:13:53 -0400, you wrote:
Is your point that perhaps Fedora community should evaluate and
choose it's default DE?
Not really, my point was more that Fedora (by default at creation)
chose Gnome, not a specific version Gnome. A small difference, but an
important one.
How
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 09:06 +0200, Jan Wildeboer wrote:
On 04/27/2011 07:14 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 06:56 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Fedora, as a volunteeer effort, cannot.
It's worse. I fear Fedora will loose contributors, because Fedora is not
shipping the
the DE these users want.
We ship every major currently maintained desktop. Which one do you think
is missing?
Adam, please.
All of this thread is about Gnome 3 not being a replacement for what
used to be Gnome 2,
Is any other desktop more of a GNOME 2 replacement than GNOME 3? i.e.,
would
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:22 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Even if
one does a fork, the track record of Trinity KDE shows how many
developers are willing to do that type of work and how many users it
will likely have.
Looking at the Trinity site, it seems active and well maintained,
they've
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 09:13 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
How could this be done in Fedora anyway? Its one thing to stay the
course and use gnome shell, its another to change it. Does the
mechanism
even exist ? Who could in fact change the default DE in Fedora ? Is
that
a FESCO thing or
On 04/27/2011 08:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I know you're not serious, but I am - I've been working on it, but
someone else filed a review for a necessary package and hasn't worked on
it since I accepted it for review and requested some fixes, so now I'm
stuck, unless I try to take over
On 04/27/2011 08:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:22 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Even if
one does a fork, the track record of Trinity KDE shows how many
developers are willing to do that type of work and how many users it
will likely have.
Looking at the Trinity
On 04/27/2011 08:29 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:13:53 -0400, you wrote:
Is your point that perhaps Fedora community should evaluate and
choose it's default DE?
Not really, my point was more that Fedora (by default at creation)
chose Gnome, not a specific version
On 04/27/2011 10:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Sure but compared to all the rants about KDE 4.0 during its launch,
there isn't much talk about the fork. I have a alert set on media
reports on it and there has barely been any. Probably it has as much
users as Fluxbox. Reasonably successful but
launch of a GNOME 2.x fork.
By the time anybody gets something like that off the ground and into the
mainstream distro repos, I expect most GNOME users would already be
satisfied by the state of GNOME 3.x and others would be using a
alternative or a distribution with a long updates cycle ( RHEL 5.x/6.x
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