[Texascavers] RE: muddy caving clothes

2007-09-29 Thread Minton, Mark
Scott said: This is a crappy gimmick based on old technology. The problem with this is while it might effectivly kill bacteria it dosent help remove oils and dirt from your clothes. I agree. In addition to killing bacteria and making clothes smell nice, the other main purpose of d

Re: [Texascavers] RE: muddy caving clothes

2007-09-29 Thread Bill Bentley
I recall some many years ago that the clothes worn into Comanche Springs Cave in Ft Stockton on a cave trip if not washed very soon after the trip would after a few weeks begin to disintegrate, almost as if the mud in the cave as caustic or something. Bill - Original Message - From

[Texascavers] FW: Need cooks for TCR...

2007-09-29 Thread Stefan Creaser
All, Any more volunteers for cooks, and also people who can help out with preparation on the day? Thanks! Stefan From: Stefan Creaser Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:21 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Need cooks for TCR... All,

[Texascavers] Huntsville update Shelter plans

2007-09-29 Thread Alex Sproul
Walter (Hi, Walter!) said -- >Huntsville is dusting off its Cold War manual to create the nation's most >ambitious fallout-shelter plan, featuring an abandoned mine... I had to laugh when I saw that article.  As a young lieutenant at Redstone Arsenal back in the late sixti

RE: [Texascavers] cave fallout shelters

2007-09-29 Thread Brian Vauter
For the longest time, Natural Bridge Caverns had the requisite fallout shelter signs on both the building and at the entrance to the cave. I asked the owners then (and this was back in the 80's) if there were any provisions or plans. They said there were not, had never been, and the signs were plac

Re: [Texascavers] cave fallout shelters

2007-09-29 Thread Don Arburn
I suspect caves would become charnel grounds with the sheer numbers of people descending upon it for shelter and the number of gun owners willing to defend the cave or try to take it for themselves. It would NOT be organized and anything but civil. Injuries, disease, starvation, cannibaliza

Re: [Texascavers] cave fallout shelters

2007-09-29 Thread Scott
Thats why we designated Airman's cave a local shelter... Because no non caver in their right mind would squeeze in that hole. - Original Message - From: "Brian Vauter" To: "'Texas Cavers'" Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:56 AM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] cave fallout shelters

[Texascavers] Re: cave fallout shelters

2007-09-29 Thread Alex Sproul
Gill said -- >I'd guess that there may still be such stashes in a few caves... At Organ Cave, WV, they have protected and preserved a small room full of ration barrels as part of their commercial tour.  They've also preserved the saltpetre works, so you can fight your way out

[Texascavers] Re: cave fallout shelters

2007-09-29 Thread Alex Sproul
Don said: >I suspect caves would become charnel grounds with the sheer numbers  of >people descending upon it for shelter and the number of gun owners >willing to defend the cave or try to take it for themselves. At the approach of the millenium, I received an astonish

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Sea Level Rise--the Map

2007-09-29 Thread John P. Brooks
You can typically find flood plain information with regards to a specific piece of property on Property Appraisal District maps. Dallas County Appraisal District has online maps that are quite useful for checking these things. Seems like San Antonio has a similar siteas does the Austin area. Th

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Sea Level Rise--the Map

2007-09-29 Thread Scott
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Sea Level Rise--the MapIf you live in Travis county you can go to the City of Austin website, under Development, GIS viewer and it has plat maps that you can add property lines, utilities, zoning, fema flood plains, and lots more on. ITs actually a really useful tool. I h

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Sea Level Rise--the Map

2007-09-29 Thread Don Arburn
http://maps.sanantonio.gov/website/COSAMaps/viewer.htm On Sep 29, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Scott wrote: If you live in Travis county you can go to the City of Austin website, under Development, GIS viewer and it has plat maps that you can add property lines, utilities, zoning, fema flood plains,

RE: [Texascavers] Diesel needs (OT)

2007-09-29 Thread Rick
I run a 50% blend of pig tallow and 50% soybean oil in my Diesel, I can change the oil after 8,000 miles and the oil is really clean for a diesel. The problem with the Ford 6.0 is they introduced a lot of new technology such as EGR on a diesel along with other things that are bad for diesels. T