texascavers Digest 1 Aug 2009 09:33:07 -0000 Issue 816

2009-08-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 1 Aug 2009 09:33:07 - Issue 816 Topics (messages 11570 through 11582): ICS Big Texas Inn broshure 11570 by: Bill Bentley 11572 by: Bill Bentley Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories 11571 by: Fritz Holt 11582 by: Don Cooper Weighting down

Re: [Texascavers] ICS related

2009-08-01 Thread vivbone
Steve'smargin of error was actually .02 inches. Way less than 2 cm. He brought his own equipment from Nevada, and spenta lot of time on it. It is greatly appreciated. I'll be doing awrite up on the results. It's not often we get a chance to compare severalsurvey team's (seven to be exact)

[Texascavers] BlackBerries and this list

2009-08-01 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
For any of you out there with BlackBerries...I saw a post recently that said it was sent from a BlackBerry. My posts get kicked back because my BB receives through jlrbi...@sonoratx.net but sends from jlrbi...@srs.bis.na.blackberry.com. I have read for seems like hours trying to find a fix to

[Texascavers] Fwd: Speaking of batteries....

2009-08-01 Thread Gill Edigar
--Fwd from SIVTAC-- -- Forwarded message -- From: Cheryl Jones cheryl.ca...@verizon.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:54 PM Subject: Speaking of batteries To: siv...@listserv.vt.edu New virus-built

Re: [Texascavers] Weighting down Bill Steele's pack

2009-08-01 Thread mark gee
I remember that, way to go Edwin. Bill can you feel the love? From: Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com To: Diana Tomchick diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu; Texas Cavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:31:25 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Texascavers] Bill Steele: hero or human tugboat?

2009-08-01 Thread mark gee
I luv it! From: Andy Gluesenkamp andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com To: texas cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:22:31 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Bill Steele: hero or human tugboat? This may not count as rocking per se:   I was on a

Re: [ot_caving] Life

2009-08-01 Thread Don Cooper
Good one, Bill! I hope you have a happy birthday!!! -wAv On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: Next month I will be 50 years old. About 5 years ago I had the opportunity to finally get to ride a horse. This would become a near death experience that has

RE: [ot_caving] Life

2009-08-01 Thread Louise Power
Hi Bill, I just turned 68 in May and trust me, I won't go near one of those things. A cat that threatens to tear off your face when you pick her up is dangerous enough for me. Louise From: ca...@caver.net To: o...@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 31

[Texascavers] The August 2009 issue of The Hole News is now on the web

2009-08-01 Thread Bill Bentley
The August 2009 issue Volume 24 # 8 of the Permian Basin Speleological Society's The Hole News is now on the web in Adobe PDF format. It can be found at the URL listed below: http://www.caver.net/pbss/holenews/pbss8-09.pdf And as always more exciting years of back issues can be found

[NMCAVER] July-August SWC in the mail

2009-08-01 Thread Carol Belski
The July-August edition of the Southwestern Cavers went in the mail this morning (Aug 1, 2009). Look for yours Monday or Tuesday. The back cover has instructions to the Labor Day Regional : the hunt for the mysterious location of Pinon Cave. If nothing else, we'll have a good time !

[Texascavers] ICS

2009-08-01 Thread Ernest Garza
Now that all my ICS guests have left and life can get back to normal, I've had time to reflect about the monumental task the caver community has pulled off in staging the ICS. From the visitor's point of view, things went rather smoothly and the event was well organized. Talking to the main

Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-08-01 Thread JerryAtkin
Ernie's right; most of the ICS attendees were not aware of the backstage dramas that occurred at the ICS. The organizers and volunteers can rightfully be proud of that. It would be interesting if a book were written about the real story of the ICS: the years of dedication and effort,

Re: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories

2009-08-01 Thread Don Cooper
I believe it! You can TRUST the Man O' Steele at his word! (Oh, and where did you want me to ship those lead bars to, Bill?) -WaV On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:43 AM, speleoste...@tx.rr.com wrote: Ok, all y'all can relax now. I've quit rocking packs. The pinnacle of my rockin' career was Frank

Re: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories

2009-08-01 Thread mark gee
Bill, I found a rock with your name on it! I still owe you a rock or three. From: Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com To: speleoste...@tx.rr.com Cc: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org; texascavers@texascavers.com; jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net; mark gee

[Texascavers] Facebook related

2009-08-01 Thread David
It looks like at least 100 Texas cavers are on Facebook, and conversation is more active there between cavers than on CaveTex. I have only been there a month, so I don't know when Facebook became so popular among Texas cavers. But it seems that ICS generated a reason for cavers to connect with

Re: [Texascavers] Facebook related

2009-08-01 Thread Bill Bentley
I was still mailing post cards, or making land-line calls. I prefer telegraphy to voice land lines... - Original Message - From: David dlocklea...@gmail.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Facebook related It looks

[Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Don Cooper
I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off of their jobs with no vacation compensation (they forsake income) to attend ICS? Unemployment does not count. -WaV

[Texascavers] Re: ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Don Cooper
Um - bad syntax... I meant (they had to forsake income) to attend... On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off of their jobs with no vacation compensation (they forsake income) to attend

RE: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Denise P
I did not forsake pay, but as vacation time is more precious to me than money (I'd take time off without pay if I could), I'd say donating 1/3 of my annual vacation time to ICS was no small deal to me. Painful in fact... -Denise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 1 Aug

Re: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Charles Goldsmith
The same for me Denise, but I took off 7 days out of my 10 that I get a year (2 weeks = 10 working days) of vacation, so it was a big sacrifice for me as well. It was a paid vacation, but I get so little of it... Very painful On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com wrote:

RE: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Linda Palit
Vacation is more precious than money TRUE for many, I think. It is hard to get enough vacation, even if you are willing to do w/o pay. I am very fortunate to finally be self employed so that I make more of those decisions. Many places will not let one take time off without pay. From: