Re: [Texascavers] Region 3 USFS cave closures are official :

2010-07-27 Thread JerryAtkin
Me falta la culpa ! Sr. Kennedy is correcto. Geraldo. In a message dated 7/27/2010 11:18:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, jkenn...@batcon.org writes: That's Region 2. R3 is AZ and NM.

[Texascavers] NSS Convention - personal

2010-07-27 Thread David
It looks like I may be going to the convention, after all. A Craigslist driver with a Geo Metro travelling from LA to NYC via Houston, claims he has room for me? I don't think I can even fit in a Geo Metro, much less bring any gear. He just left Los Angeles, and claims he is picking up a 2nd rid

Re: [Texascavers] Region 3 USFS cave closures are official :

2010-07-27 Thread Jim Kennedy
That's Region 2. R3 is AZ and NM. >

[Texascavers] Region 3 USFS cave closures are official :

2010-07-27 Thread JerryAtkin
For those that don't keep up with the Rockies caving scene, the USFS has officially closed their Region 3 caves for a 12 month period in response to the WNS situation. The states affected by the closure are Colorado, Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas. For more information, see: _ht

Re: [NMCAVER] On the lighter side-a Klingon Cave talk......

2010-07-27 Thread Mike_Bilbo
So much for the Star Trek adventure in Vegas... - Original Message - From: Carl Pagano [pagan...@comcast.net] Sent: 07/27/2010 08:18 PM CST To: nmcaver list Subject: [NMCAVER] On the lighter side-a Klingon Cave talk.. Australian caves offer new tour — in Klingon Jenolan Caves fir

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Steve Peerman
The Las Cruces meeting was much the same as Carol described. It is interesting to me that I don't recall any other issue that has brought the agencies together the way the WNS issue has.Whatever is done in New Mexico regarding cave management in light of possible WNS, they want to hav

[NMCAVER] On the lighter side-a Klingon Cave talk......

2010-07-27 Thread Carl Pagano
Australian caves offer new tour — in Klingon Jenolan Caves first immortalized in the Next Generation episode 'Relics' photos  AFP - Getty Images Awesome Australia by Belinda Goldsmith  updated 7/27/2010 10:22:32 AM ET Share Print Font: + - SYDNEY — Staff at the Jenolan Caves west of Sydney h

[Texascavers] Mars related

2010-07-27 Thread David
I am not sure if this is new news. I don't know if it anything useful to look for caves on Mars: http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/whatIs/whatisWWT.aspx?Page=Mars - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-ma

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Dave and Johanna DECKER
Does anybody have the time and location of the Albuquerque meeting? I'd like to attend. Thanks. Dave Decker > From: rckee...@cox.net > To: nmca...@caver.net > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:15:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure > > All, > > If Region 3 approaches cavers ab

[Texascavers] NSS Convention - rides NE

2010-07-27 Thread David
My plan to drive to Vermont appears to have imploded, although it is still on the table. I found 2 rides on Craiglist that can get me as close as Schenectady, New York by Sunday, but the route is via Cleveland, which is not the best route from Houston. There is a caver in Indiana, ( Kento ? ) wan

[Texascavers] Thank you very much!

2010-07-27 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hey Friends Gracias!! for all. Thank you for coming to my both party. I will leave Texas the next Thursday. I will miss you. But I want to see you in EspeleoCoahuila2011 in July 1-4 in Parras. See you soon Love moni -- LCC Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez San Antonio, Texas espeleocoahu...@gmail.

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread jen .
It would be nice if they moved that bat in Oklahoma to the Europe "detected but not killing" category. I would guess that the decision on issuing permits is left to each local agency that currently issues permits and not made too specific in this document on purpose since not all places a

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Steve Peerman
Yes - I had not read that document until you mentioned it. I recommend everyone read it. It does contain this statement: The Forest Service will authorize some access for administrative purposes (e.g., implementing the Abandoned Mine Lands program), research, disease surveillance, and

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Ray Keeler
All, If Region 3 approaches cavers about closing NM and AZ caves, I would demand that the first thing Region 3 considers is enforcement of the closures for: Sandia Cave, NM. Lava River Cave, AZ Peppersauce Cave, AZ Each of these three wild caves receive thousands (in a couple cases "tens of th

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Ray Keeler
... ain't gonna happen for this kid any time soon. :) From: "Stephen Fleming" Operation Alternative Hobbies is nearing kickoff time. ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Carol Belski
The Carlsbad meeting was well-attended and well-organized, as I am sure the Las Cruces and Albuquerque ones will be. These are information gathering sessions, not decision making ones. Reports of the ideas and general consensus from all 3 meetings will be sent to all attendees. It was em

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Stephen Fleming
On 2010/07/27 13:18, Steve Peerman wrote: All, Region 2 of the USFS has announced their cave closure. Details are at: http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/wns/index.shtml The actual closure order is at: http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/wns/pdf/r2-wns-closure-order-final.pdf It would appear to me that

Re: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread jen .
bummer. Does anyone have a report from the Carlsbad meeting last night? I plan to go to the ABQ one tomorrow. > To: nmca...@caver.net > From: gypca...@comcast.net > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:18:36 -0600 > Subject: [NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure > > All, > Region 2 of the USFS h

[NMCAVER] Region 2 Cave Closure

2010-07-27 Thread Steve Peerman
All, Region 2 of the USFS has announced their cave closure. Details are at: http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/wns/index.shtml The actual closure order is at: http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/wns/pdf/r2-wns-closure-order- final.pdf It would appear to me that the gist of this "closure" order is that cav

[NMCAVER] Fwd: [Texascavers] OT: Take a moment and help out a Texas caver...

2010-07-27 Thread Stephen Fleming
Repost. Take a minute and vote. Original Message Subject:[Texascavers] OT: Take a moment and help out a Texas caver... List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:17:28 -0500 From: Allan Cobb To: A Texas Caving Remailer for Texas Cavers

RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic-"The Story of the Weeping Camel"

2010-07-27 Thread Fritz Holt
Orion, I obviously missed something but when did you do your trek in Western Mongolia? Thanks for this interesting post. Fritz Holt -Original Message- From: Orion Knox [mailto:orion-k...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:11 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topi

[Texascavers] Off Topic-"The Story of the Weeping Camel"

2010-07-27 Thread Orion Knox
Geography lesson time. Mongolia which is the setting for the movie, is an independent country on the northern border of china and the southern border of Russia. It has had a long and interesting history which can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mongolia In more recent ti

RE: [Texascavers] OT: Take a moment and help out a Texas caver...

2010-07-27 Thread Louise Power
Allan, I can tell you for sure, he needs all the help he can get. My mother (aka, Ma Power) died from ALS in 1989. By that time I was living in Portland, OR, and couldn't help my sister with the day-to-day stuff. Fortunately, before she got where she couldn't travel, she was able to come se

[Texascavers] OT: Take a moment and help out a Texas caver...

2010-07-27 Thread Allan Cobb
Roy Wessel is in a contest for $40,000 and needs your vote. He is a San Antonio caver who has been a long term member of the Bexar Grotto. Briefly, he has been taking care of his girlfriend who has ALS, is on a ventilator, has a trach, and is on a feeding tube. This is a full time job with no

[Texascavers] No Swim Sundays

2010-07-27 Thread Ernest Garza
For those of you who swam Sundays at Pete's, you will probably miss them. For those of you who didn't swim, you have missed a good thing. Now that they have ended, why not join us in the next best thing to do: the Sunday Kiwi Sink digs. We are almost half way to China, help us break on through!

[NMCAVER] Alabama Outreach-Education

2010-07-27 Thread Hahn, Deirdra
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/07/time_may_be_running_out_for_al.html ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net