As a kid (1954-1960), I lived south of Uvalde. I recall going to Del Rio once with my folks and seeing panoramic shots of the old Pecos Railroad High Bridge. Anyone know if these photos are still around?May 29, 2011 11:50:41 PM, lmcn...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Don et al.,
- Original Message -
From: Robert B
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:11 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from
Tennessee cave
from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from Tennessee cave
Please keep in mind that there are also extemist armchair cavers who like to
rant for the sake of argument and rightously think they have something
intelligent to say. Carl Pagano does not speak for this scientist.
Dr. Robert. K. Grubbs Ph.D.
On Sat May 28th, 2011 9:25 AM MDT Carl Pagano
Robert, I didn't speak for you or other scientists not on the CDB petition. I
spoke about the petition that Aaron posted from the CBD. You yourself know the
value of scientific method. If you find offense at this, then please provide
proof that WNS is spread by humans, using scientific method.
from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from Tennessee cave
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/30/tennessee.cave.rescue/index.html?hpt=T2
texascavers Digest 30 May 2011 23:16:04 - Issue 1324
Topics (messages 17932 through 17944):
Speleomusic competition: UIS Anthem
17932 by: George Veni
17933 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
17934 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
Bat flight on the Rio Grande
17935 by:
There's a big cave rescue going on in eastern Tennessee right now. I know
the victim - Dirk Siron. It's Sinking Cove Cave. Forty rescuers are in the
cave.What I've been told is that Dirk was doing a pull down rappel and got
on the wrong rope, falling off the end of it. It appears he's got
I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been
several accidents of this nature. Why in the world wouldn't an
experienced caver have put a knot at the bottom of a rope that is too
short and that could potentially be confused for the correct
one? And why wasn't he looking
Mark,
I just heard they got him out of the cave. Not sure of the cause of the
accident but Sinking Cove Cave is a classic multi-drop pull down trip. Mostly
short drops with a nice exit into a truck passage in the bottom of the cave.
The Boulder entrance is the one that he entered and
I don't know the details of what happened in the recent accident in Tennessee, but I can second what Mark said about the importance of looking down frequently and rappelling slowly enough so you can stop on short notice if necessary. This is good advice even when you think you are sure that every
As a kid (1954-1960), I lived south of Uvalde. I recall going to Del Rio once with my folks and seeing panoramic shots of the old Pecos Railroad High Bridge. Anyone know if these photos are still around?May 29, 2011 11:50:41 PM, lmcn...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Don et al.,
- Original Message -
From: Robert B
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:11 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from
Tennessee cave
from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from Tennessee cave
Please keep in mind that there are also extemist armchair cavers who like to
rant for the sake of argument and rightously think they have something
intelligent to say. Carl Pagano does not speak for this scientist.
Dr. Robert. K. Grubbs Ph.D.
On Sat May 28th, 2011 9:25 AM MDT Carl Pagano
Robert, I didn't speak for you or other scientists not on the CDB petition. I
spoke about the petition that Aaron posted from the CBD. You yourself know the
value of scientific method. If you find offense at this, then please provide
proof that WNS is spread by humans, using scientific method.
from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from Tennessee cave
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/30/tennessee.cave.rescue/index.html?hpt=T2
texascavers Digest 30 May 2011 23:16:04 - Issue 1324
Topics (messages 17932 through 17944):
Speleomusic competition: UIS Anthem
17932 by: George Veni
17933 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
17934 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
Bat flight on the Rio Grande
17935 by:
There's a big cave rescue going on in eastern Tennessee right now. I know
the victim - Dirk Siron. It's Sinking Cove Cave. Forty rescuers are in the
cave.What I've been told is that Dirk was doing a pull down rappel and got
on the wrong rope, falling off the end of it. It appears he's got
I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been
several accidents of this nature. Why in the world wouldn't an
experienced caver have put a knot at the bottom of a rope that is too
short and that could potentially be confused for the correct
one? And why wasn't he looking
Mark,
I just heard they got him out of the cave. Not sure of the cause of the
accident but Sinking Cove Cave is a classic multi-drop pull down trip. Mostly
short drops with a nice exit into a truck passage in the bottom of the cave.
The Boulder entrance is the one that he entered and
I don't know the details of what happened in the recent accident in Tennessee, but I can second what Mark said about the importance of looking down frequently and rappelling slowly enough so you can stop on short notice if necessary. This is good advice even when you think you are sure that every
As a kid (1954-1960), I lived south of Uvalde. I recall going to Del Rio once with my folks and seeing panoramic shots of the old Pecos Railroad High Bridge. Anyone know if these photos are still around?May 29, 2011 11:50:41 PM, lmcn...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Don et al.,
- Original Message -
From: Robert B
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:11 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from
Tennessee cave
from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from Tennessee cave
Please keep in mind that there are also extemist armchair cavers who like to
rant for the sake of argument and rightously think they have something
intelligent to say. Carl Pagano does not speak for this scientist.
Dr. Robert. K. Grubbs Ph.D.
On Sat May 28th, 2011 9:25 AM MDT Carl Pagano
Robert, I didn't speak for you or other scientists not on the CDB petition. I
spoke about the petition that Aaron posted from the CBD. You yourself know the
value of scientific method. If you find offense at this, then please provide
proof that WNS is spread by humans, using scientific method.
from CNN - Crews work to rescue injured man from Tennessee cave
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/30/tennessee.cave.rescue/index.html?hpt=T2
texascavers Digest 30 May 2011 23:16:04 - Issue 1324
Topics (messages 17932 through 17944):
Speleomusic competition: UIS Anthem
17932 by: George Veni
17933 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
17934 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
Bat flight on the Rio Grande
17935 by:
There's a big cave rescue going on in eastern Tennessee right now. I know
the victim - Dirk Siron. It's Sinking Cove Cave. Forty rescuers are in the
cave.What I've been told is that Dirk was doing a pull down rappel and got
on the wrong rope, falling off the end of it. It appears he's got
I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been
several accidents of this nature. Why in the world wouldn't an
experienced caver have put a knot at the bottom of a rope that is too
short and that could potentially be confused for the correct
one? And why wasn't he looking
Mark,
I just heard they got him out of the cave. Not sure of the cause of the
accident but Sinking Cove Cave is a classic multi-drop pull down trip. Mostly
short drops with a nice exit into a truck passage in the bottom of the cave.
The Boulder entrance is the one that he entered and
I don't know the details of what happened in the recent accident in Tennessee, but I can second what Mark said about the importance of looking down frequently and rappelling slowly enough so you can stop on short notice if necessary. This is good advice even when you think you are sure that every
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