Re: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....

2012-04-19 Thread wcwalker
Ah, I ain't carrying in the receiver. I'll leave it up to you. Oh, about the transmitter.Mmmm, same goes! Wayne John Lyles writes: Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml

[Texascavers] biologists and statistics

2012-04-19 Thread Mixon Bill
Andy writes about the cave life book that I looked into the statistical analyses that Mixon wailed about and found them to be essentially identical to approaches employed by other researchers. That's all too true, unfortunately. I'm not the only one who refers to the Endangered Species Act

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I finally got my hands on a copy of Cave Life of Oklahoma and Arkansas.  After reading Mixon's screed (below), I was expecting the thing to fall apart in my hands, leaving nasty stains on my fingers.  Not so.  I found lots of useful and interesting information on the history of caving in the

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Tim Stich
Great book review, Bill! I never fail to get a smile out of your write ups. -Tim Stich

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I agree, Tim.  They are always entertaining, like listening to Rush Limbaugh.  A discriminating reader should not confuse entertaining screeds with actual informed content. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com

[SWR] Fwd: Acreage adjacent to Ice Caves

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
-- Forwarded message -- From: R D Milhollin rdmilhol...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM Subject: Acreage adjacent to Ice Caves To: lstarr...@gmail.com lstarr...@gmail.com Linda, Please communicate with the SWR leadership that there are likely some NSS funds

texascavers Digest 19 Apr 2012 18:56:38 -0000 Issue 1532

2012-04-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Apr 2012 18:56:38 - Issue 1532 Topics (messages 19861 through 19866): Re: Quaternary geology academic post (lecturer/senior lecturer) at Birmingham 19861 by: Fofo Re: book review: cave life 19862 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 19864 by: Tim Stich

[Texascavers] Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7th

2012-04-19 Thread Mark . Alman
TSA Longhorn Caverns State Park Project Report - Saturday, April 7th, 2012 Volunteers: Boy Scout Venture Crew (Plano, TX): Mason Gartman, Paul Gartman, Lona Patterson, Austin Patterson, Dave Stone, Collin Stone, Scott Roulet, Greyson Roulet, Eddie Smith, Richard Smith, Eric

Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7th

2012-04-19 Thread Preston Forsythe
Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7thI sure would like to meet Bob Marshall sometime. You know Bob has his own wilderness area in nw Montana and many Texas cavers have been there exploring and surveying. Preston in western KY --- Sent:

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
Aaron and SWR, I agree with Fleming. I think the region should look into this and maybe have a rep go to the auction on June 1 to bid on the property. Who knows, it may go for cheap (what a dream). Please put this on the agenda for the upcoming regional meeting, which is when? Linda Starr

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
All: The next meeting is at the Memorial Day Regional / 50th Anniversary celebration, probably to late to take any action on this. Has anybody contacted Corky at High Country Realty to get an ideal of its value and location? Sam On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:52 PM, John Lyles j...@losalamos.com

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
Sam, As far as I know no one has contacted Corky. If you know him, would you be willing to do that? I don't know him; I know that Victor is tied up with parenting issues right now in addition to his work. I know the meeting is at the regional, but what day and time? Usually Saturday

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
Linda: I do not know Corky, but his name phone number is listed on the auction web site. I just talked to him and he will call me back with directions to the property when he gets home. I asked what is the estimated value of the land and he said he did not know, but he said that it will sell

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Aaron Stockton
The meeting will be on memorial day weekend, saturday morning. Is this actually a property bearing caves or just a property near caves? It would be nice if the NSS would purchase a SW cave property. Aaron Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Sam

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
All: I talked with Corky Fernandez - (575) 447-1007 - with High Country Realty. He has been out to the property only one time with the auctioneer. The only High Country Realty I could find in NM is located in Ranchos de Taos. Location details, 21 pics, mileage, and a map to the property can be

[SWR] NSS Cave Grants

2012-04-19 Thread R D Milhollin
 Whoa! Before sending me e-mails about the land near the caves, let me help direct you to the right people. The reason I suggested this route to Linda was that there have been a couple of grants from the NSS to deserving groups of cavers (in IN and MO if I remember correctly) who got organized,

[Texascavers] Pond Party and Sunday Swims

2012-04-19 Thread pstrickland1
The Pond Party,(our big party of the year),will be June 16th from 2:00 to late night, at Pete and Jocie's pond. Prior to this, we will have five smaller events called Sunday Swims. They are all from 2:00 - 6:00 or so. They will be Sunday, May 13th and 20th. We will have a Sunday Swim on Monday

Re: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....

2012-04-19 Thread wcwalker
Ah, I ain't carrying in the receiver. I'll leave it up to you. Oh, about the transmitter.Mmmm, same goes! Wayne John Lyles writes: Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml

[Texascavers] biologists and statistics

2012-04-19 Thread Mixon Bill
Andy writes about the cave life book that I looked into the statistical analyses that Mixon wailed about and found them to be essentially identical to approaches employed by other researchers. That's all too true, unfortunately. I'm not the only one who refers to the Endangered Species Act

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I finally got my hands on a copy of Cave Life of Oklahoma and Arkansas.  After reading Mixon's screed (below), I was expecting the thing to fall apart in my hands, leaving nasty stains on my fingers.  Not so.  I found lots of useful and interesting information on the history of caving in the

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Tim Stich
Great book review, Bill! I never fail to get a smile out of your write ups. -Tim Stich

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I agree, Tim.  They are always entertaining, like listening to Rush Limbaugh.  A discriminating reader should not confuse entertaining screeds with actual informed content. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com

[SWR] Fwd: Acreage adjacent to Ice Caves

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
-- Forwarded message -- From: R D Milhollin rdmilhol...@yahoo.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM Subject: Acreage adjacent to Ice Caves To: lstarr...@gmail.com lstarr...@gmail.com Linda, Please communicate with the SWR leadership that

texascavers Digest 19 Apr 2012 18:56:38 -0000 Issue 1532

2012-04-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Apr 2012 18:56:38 - Issue 1532 Topics (messages 19861 through 19866): Re: Quaternary geology academic post (lecturer/senior lecturer) at Birmingham 19861 by: Fofo Re: book review: cave life 19862 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 19864 by: Tim Stich

Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7th

2012-04-19 Thread Preston Forsythe
Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7thI sure would like to meet Bob Marshall sometime. You know Bob has his own wilderness area in nw Montana and many Texas cavers have been there exploring and surveying. Preston in western KY --- Sent:

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
Aaron and SWR, I agree with Fleming. I think the region should look into this and maybe have a rep go to the auction on June 1 to bid on the property. Who knows, it may go for cheap (what a dream). Please put this on the agenda for the upcoming regional meeting, which is when? Linda Starr

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
All: The next meeting is at the Memorial Day Regional / 50th Anniversary celebration, probably to late to take any action on this. Has anybody contacted Corky at High Country Realty to get an ideal of its value and location? Sam On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:52 PM, John Lyles j...@losalamos.com

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
Sam, As far as I know no one has contacted Corky. If you know him, would you be willing to do that? I don't know him; I know that Victor is tied up with parenting issues right now in addition to his work. I know the meeting is at the regional, but what day and time? Usually Saturday

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
Linda: I do not know Corky, but his name phone number is listed on the auction web site. I just talked to him and he will call me back with directions to the property when he gets home. I asked what is the estimated value of the land and he said he did not know, but he said that it will sell

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Aaron Stockton
The meeting will be on memorial day weekend, saturday morning. Is this actually a property bearing caves or just a property near caves? It would be nice if the NSS would purchase a SW cave property. Aaron Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Sam

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
All: I talked with Corky Fernandez - (575) 447-1007 - with High Country Realty. He has been out to the property only one time with the auctioneer. The only High Country Realty I could find in NM is located in Ranchos de Taos. Location details, 21 pics, mileage, and a map to the property can be

[SWR] NSS Cave Grants

2012-04-19 Thread R D Milhollin
 Whoa! Before sending me e-mails about the land near the caves, let me help direct you to the right people. The reason I suggested this route to Linda was that there have been a couple of grants from the NSS to deserving groups of cavers (in IN and MO if I remember correctly) who got organized,

[Texascavers] Pond Party and Sunday Swims

2012-04-19 Thread pstrickland1
The Pond Party,(our big party of the year),will be June 16th from 2:00 to late night, at Pete and Jocie's pond. Prior to this, we will have five smaller events called Sunday Swims. They are all from 2:00 - 6:00 or so. They will be Sunday, May 13th and 20th. We will have a Sunday Swim on Monday

Re: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....

2012-04-19 Thread wcwalker
Ah, I ain't carrying in the receiver. I'll leave it up to you. Oh, about the transmitter.Mmmm, same goes! Wayne John Lyles writes: Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml

[Texascavers] biologists and statistics

2012-04-19 Thread Mixon Bill
Andy writes about the cave life book that I looked into the statistical analyses that Mixon wailed about and found them to be essentially identical to approaches employed by other researchers. That's all too true, unfortunately. I'm not the only one who refers to the Endangered Species Act

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I finally got my hands on a copy of Cave Life of Oklahoma and Arkansas.  After reading Mixon's screed (below), I was expecting the thing to fall apart in my hands, leaving nasty stains on my fingers.  Not so.  I found lots of useful and interesting information on the history of caving in the

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Tim Stich
Great book review, Bill! I never fail to get a smile out of your write ups. -Tim Stich

Re: [Texascavers] book review: cave life

2012-04-19 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I agree, Tim.  They are always entertaining, like listening to Rush Limbaugh.  A discriminating reader should not confuse entertaining screeds with actual informed content. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com

[SWR] Fwd: Acreage adjacent to Ice Caves

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
-- Forwarded message -- From: R D Milhollin rdmilhol...@yahoo.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM Subject: Acreage adjacent to Ice Caves To: lstarr...@gmail.com lstarr...@gmail.com Linda, Please communicate with the SWR leadership that

texascavers Digest 19 Apr 2012 18:56:38 -0000 Issue 1532

2012-04-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Apr 2012 18:56:38 - Issue 1532 Topics (messages 19861 through 19866): Re: Quaternary geology academic post (lecturer/senior lecturer) at Birmingham 19861 by: Fofo Re: book review: cave life 19862 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 19864 by: Tim Stich

[Texascavers] Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7th

2012-04-19 Thread Mark . Alman
TSA Longhorn Caverns State Park Project Report - Saturday, April 7th, 2012 Volunteers: Boy Scout Venture Crew (Plano, TX): Mason Gartman, Paul Gartman, Lona Patterson, Austin Patterson, Dave Stone, Collin Stone, Scott Roulet, Greyson Roulet, Eddie Smith, Richard Smith, Eric

Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7th

2012-04-19 Thread Preston Forsythe
Longhorn SP Project Report-Saturday, April 7thI sure would like to meet Bob Marshall sometime. You know Bob has his own wilderness area in nw Montana and many Texas cavers have been there exploring and surveying. Preston in western KY --- Sent:

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
Aaron and SWR, I agree with Fleming. I think the region should look into this and maybe have a rep go to the auction on June 1 to bid on the property. Who knows, it may go for cheap (what a dream). Please put this on the agenda for the upcoming regional meeting, which is when? Linda Starr

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
All: The next meeting is at the Memorial Day Regional / 50th Anniversary celebration, probably to late to take any action on this. Has anybody contacted Corky at High Country Realty to get an ideal of its value and location? Sam On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:52 PM, John Lyles j...@losalamos.com

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Linda Starr
Sam, As far as I know no one has contacted Corky. If you know him, would you be willing to do that? I don't know him; I know that Victor is tied up with parenting issues right now in addition to his work. I know the meeting is at the regional, but what day and time? Usually Saturday

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
Linda: I do not know Corky, but his name phone number is listed on the auction web site. I just talked to him and he will call me back with directions to the property when he gets home. I asked what is the estimated value of the land and he said he did not know, but he said that it will sell

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Aaron Stockton
The meeting will be on memorial day weekend, saturday morning. Is this actually a property bearing caves or just a property near caves? It would be nice if the NSS would purchase a SW cave property. Aaron Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Sam

Re: [SWR] Property by NM cave being auctioned

2012-04-19 Thread Sam Bono
All: I talked with Corky Fernandez - (575) 447-1007 - with High Country Realty. He has been out to the property only one time with the auctioneer. The only High Country Realty I could find in NM is located in Ranchos de Taos. Location details, 21 pics, mileage, and a map to the property can be

[SWR] NSS Cave Grants

2012-04-19 Thread R D Milhollin
 Whoa! Before sending me e-mails about the land near the caves, let me help direct you to the right people. The reason I suggested this route to Linda was that there have been a couple of grants from the NSS to deserving groups of cavers (in IN and MO if I remember correctly) who got organized,

[Texascavers] Pond Party and Sunday Swims

2012-04-19 Thread pstrickland1
The Pond Party,(our big party of the year),will be June 16th from 2:00 to late night, at Pete and Jocie's pond. Prior to this, we will have five smaller events called Sunday Swims. They are all from 2:00 - 6:00 or so. They will be Sunday, May 13th and 20th. We will have a Sunday Swim on Monday