[Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

Going back to what the guide was "reported" to have said, the "quartz" comment is something I have heard from many guides at many caves. It's a prevalent guide "info-virus." I suspect it's a mis-hearing of the word "coarse" in describing crystals. I heard this same thing a number of years ago from

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

The file is attached as is my appreciation for your work and support. George -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:47 PM To: George Veni Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly George, I'd be very tha

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

George, I'd be very thankful for a copy of that PDF. Caverns of Sonora is one of my favorite caves. If I can help in your endeavors in anyway, let me know. Charles On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:59 PM, George Veni wrote: > Some of the work has been published: > > Bogdan Onac, George Veni, and Willi

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

eorge From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:51 PM To: George Veni Cc: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly George, The CRF projects now days ask for 4 members on a survey, the fourth is to detai

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

Some of the work has been published: Bogdan Onac, George Veni, and William B. White. 2001. Depositional environment for metatyuyamunite and related minerals from Caverns of Sonora, TX (U.S.A.) European Journal of Mineralogy, 13:135-143. I'd be glad to send a PDF of it to anyone who is interested.

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

surveying is > approved, it will be carefully monitored by the owners with each team > member > specifically approved for access. > > George > > > -Original Message----- > From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:03 AM >

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

28, 2010 12:34 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly My "study" of Caverns of Sonora that I referred to in my earlier message is also a survey. Many years ago, Jack Burch established a precise transit survey through the commercial section, w

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

is approved, it will be carefully monitored by the owners with each team member specifically approved for access. George -Original Message- From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:03 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Son

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

d there's seven to >seven and half miles in there." That is where 7 miles came from. And from >what I've seen of the cave, I believe Jack's estimate. > >George > >-Original Message- >From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] >Sent: Thursday, Janua

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

I'm in. Don's iPhone. On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:05 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Any takers? Mark A. -Original Message- From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:03 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers]

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

Any takers? Mark A. -Original Message- From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:03 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly As for there being 7 miles in Sonora, I doubt it, but if true why

[Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

is where 7 miles came from. And from what I've seen of the cave, I believe Jack's estimate. George -Original Message- From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:03 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora B

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

27;s estimate. George -Original Message- From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:03 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly That's an interesting take on a commercial caving experience,

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

Fact check a non-technical blog?  Jeeze. Lots of blogs are chock-full of spurious information, anyway.   TJan 28, 2010 10:03:37 AM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: That's an interesting take on a commercial caving experience, but not very well fact checked. I was immediately suspicious when she said it

[Texascavers] Re: Sonora Butterfly

That's an interesting take on a commercial caving experience, but not very well fact checked. I was immediately suspicious when she said it was 85 degrees in the cave. According to the Caverns of Sonora web site , which she references, it is actually 7