RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-06-01 Thread Geary Schindel
Mark, Good points and it shows that even a very experienced caver can sometimes make a mistake and mistakes can be very costly. Dirk was on the team that performed the world record rappel off of Mt. Thor in Baffin Island (4,000+ feet) and I would bet has done numerous multi-drop pull down

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-06-01 Thread Geary Schindel
Mark, Good points and it shows that even a very experienced caver can sometimes make a mistake and mistakes can be very costly. Dirk was on the team that performed the world record rappel off of Mt. Thor in Baffin Island (4,000+ feet) and I would bet has done numerous multi-drop pull down

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-06-01 Thread Geary Schindel
Mark, Good points and it shows that even a very experienced caver can sometimes make a mistake and mistakes can be very costly. Dirk was on the team that performed the world record rappel off of Mt. Thor in Baffin Island (4,000+ feet) and I would bet has done numerous multi-drop pull down

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Minton
It has been suggested that the accident happened because they had rigged the pull-down with a stopper knot and the guy rigged into the wrong side of the knot. In that case it wouldn't have mattered whether or not there was a knot at the end of the short side (if there was a short

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Minton
It has been suggested that the accident happened because they had rigged the pull-down with a stopper knot and the guy rigged into the wrong side of the knot. In that case it wouldn't have mattered whether or not there was a knot at the end of the short side (if there was a short

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Minton
It has been suggested that the accident happened because they had rigged the pull-down with a stopper knot and the guy rigged into the wrong side of the knot. In that case it wouldn't have mattered whether or not there was a knot at the end of the short side (if there was a short

Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Minton
I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been several accidents of this nature. Why in the world wouldn't an experienced caver have put a knot at the bottom of a rope that is too short and that could potentially be confused for the correct one? And why wasn't he looking

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Geary Schindel
Mark, I just heard they got him out of the cave. Not sure of the cause of the accident but Sinking Cove Cave is a classic multi-drop pull down trip. Mostly short drops with a nice exit into a truck passage in the bottom of the cave. The Boulder entrance is the one that he entered and

Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Rod Goke
--Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: May 30, 2011 8:49 PMTo: Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been several accidents of this nature. Why in

Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Minton
I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been several accidents of this nature. Why in the world wouldn't an experienced caver have put a knot at the bottom of a rope that is too short and that could potentially be confused for the correct one? And why wasn't he looking

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Geary Schindel
Mark, I just heard they got him out of the cave. Not sure of the cause of the accident but Sinking Cove Cave is a classic multi-drop pull down trip. Mostly short drops with a nice exit into a truck passage in the bottom of the cave. The Boulder entrance is the one that he entered and

Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Rod Goke
--Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: May 30, 2011 8:49 PMTo: Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been several accidents of this nature. Why in

Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Minton
I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been several accidents of this nature. Why in the world wouldn't an experienced caver have put a knot at the bottom of a rope that is too short and that could potentially be confused for the correct one? And why wasn't he looking

RE: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Geary Schindel
Mark, I just heard they got him out of the cave. Not sure of the cause of the accident but Sinking Cove Cave is a classic multi-drop pull down trip. Mostly short drops with a nice exit into a truck passage in the bottom of the cave. The Boulder entrance is the one that he entered and

Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave

2011-05-30 Thread Rod Goke
--Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: May 30, 2011 8:49 PMTo: Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [Texascavers] Deep cave rescue happening now in eastern Tennessee multi-drop cave I can't believe this keeps happening! There have been several accidents of this nature. Why in