RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice

2008-01-07 Thread Fritz Holt
Nancy, Two caving parties on which I have been have reported encountering a porcupine within the cave. They seem to prefer caves for their lodging. Fritz -Original Message- From: Nancy Weaver [mailto:nan...@io.com] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 3:50 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com

RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice

2008-01-07 Thread mark gee
A very small cave at CBSPark has a small little cave named after such that has porcupine's in it quite often. Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: Nancy, Two caving parties on which I have been have reported encountering a porcupine within the cave. They seem to prefer caves for their

RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-01-06 Thread Pekins, Charles E Mr CIV USA IMCOM
@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice Lots of nice responses, thanks all. The consensus would appear to be that a great variety of mammals (and others) utilize caves to an equal extent as bats. And that all use the cave as a dwelling rather than a habitat. I'd surmise

RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice

2008-01-06 Thread Nancy Weaver
Lots of nice responses, thanks all. The consensus would appear to be that a great variety of mammals (and others) utilize caves to an equal extent as bats. And that all use the cave as a dwelling rather than a habitat. I'd surmise that the examples found 'way back into the cave' are

RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-01-05 Thread Pekins, Charles E Mr CIV USA IMCOM
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Usage of caves by bats depends upon several factors, two of the most important (which are likely linked) are ceiling temperature/passage humidity and life cycle stage (hibernating and popping out pups). Layered upon the 2 big factors are several

Re: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-01-05 Thread Dave H. Crusoe
and jikes, I'd imagine that some bats think the same about us: oh, bat caves are very exciting places to live, but these silly humans ruin a perfectly good home/environment/planet ... Bat caves are very exciting places to investigate and study, although some cavers fell they ruin a

Re: RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-01-05 Thread bcow911
Long and Short of it. Some bats live in the twilight zone area (entrances) some live very deep in the cave IE Honey Creek I'm sure folks have had bats land on them deep in the spring entrance of Honey Creek. Some bats of the same species don' live in caves at all some live in bridges,tree

Re: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice

2008-01-05 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Nancy Weaver wrote: someone mentioned to me a trivial pursuit question regarding what mammal lives in caves? the answer of course is bats . . . which got me to wondering if bats habitually live any further into a cave than the bears, cats etc which use caves as dens. I've personally seen

RE: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice

2008-01-05 Thread Louise Power
Nancy, When I worked at Carlsbad Caverns, we found mice and mouse scat in the lunchroom. We suspected they hitched a ride on the elevator either somewhere on the frame or in the boxes of food which were taken down in the elevator. One summer, we also found a couple of mice in one of the

Re: [Texascavers] bats cats and mice

2008-01-05 Thread vivbone
In Borneo I observed that most species of bat which commonly inhabit the caves of Gunung Buda (Sarawak, Malaysia), including some cave-roosting fruit bats, tend to roost near the entrances. There, it is the swiftlets (birds) which travel kms into the caves. They echolocate using clicks. They