Hi there
I have been very busy with anti-swpat things. I'll be very busy
at least until April 27. So I uploaded my text to wiki. It is under
"Therion book". Its not finished, but the basics are explained. No work
is done for joining, etc.
Best regards,
Roman
Hi all,
I have translated 0.3.6's user interface to spanish. You'll find a file
with strings on http://www.infonegocio.com/tatel/
If you are on *nix, and want to translate therion to your own language
as soon as posible, you could use translate.sh, wich is not more than a
collection of awk and se
Hi again,
translation stuff is on the wiki now (Tips and tricks page)
Regards,
Roman
Hi,
translating projection, point, line and area types does not work; when
compiling, it complains about this.
However, types are important items to translate. I'm on a hurry, because
the planned stage is coming, and I've heard about "using AutoCAD",
which is for me a big no-no-no. I think I coul
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:22:17 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> The problem is simple - xtherion is editing text files, and therion
>> accepts only english as input file language.
>> (...)
>> When we have been discussing it before - the only solution was to
>> write new user interface for that.
OK,
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:20:13 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> Then you will need Inno Setup compiler (try google, no idea about
>> download web page) to compile therion-full instalation script for
>> windows. It will generate therion-full.exe in C:\Cave directory. Then
>> you can rename it to therio
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:45:44 +0100
Martin Sluka wrote:
>> Simple cave - any simple software
>>
>> Complicated cave - therion
Er... I don't agree. My survey is a 300 m gallery.
Only one scrap. Walls, contours, pits, floor-steps and stations,
gradient, paleo, arqueo, labels and plan was mostly
Thank you very much!
Roman
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:00:00 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> OK, after studying TclTk manuals a little bit, i18n is already there -
>> no additional packages are needed. All I need to do is to replace each
>> string with [mc ] and define .msg files for each
>> language
Hi all,
I managed to get windows binary translated. Simply rename a translated
/therion/xtherion/xtherion file as xtherion.tcl and use it overwrite
installed windows binary's one. Et voila! :)
BTW, .iss scripts don't worked for me: First I needed to realize
that there are more .iss files than co
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:16:53 +0100 (CET)
"Martin Budaj" wrote:
>> I think it's not necessary to build separate binary packages for each
>> translation -- now the mainstream package supports translation of
>> xtherion with Spanish and Slovak translations included.
Do you mean that windows versi
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:56:24 +0100 (CET)
"Martin Budaj" wrote:
>> If it would be helpful, we can make windows development binary to be
>> used until 0.3.7 comes.
Thanks a lot. Since friends can simply overwrite xtherion.tcl, I think
there is not need to make windows development binary, at least
Hi,
When I enter wiki's examples page, my firefox begin to load something
HUGE. I can hear disk cache working as an exploited slave. It takes some
minutes to load (I'm on 512 Kb *DSL); after this, each time I scroll the
page, cache starts working again. Thus it is, in practice, allmost
unusable.
Hi,
I'm getting this error:
bad option "utf-8": must be convertfrom, convertto, names, or system
When trying to load .xvi images, including tornala's one
Regards,
Roman
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:34:24 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> XVI images have to be inserted as a "Background image" not loaded as
>> .th2 files. In the tornala example - just open oko.th2 file. That's
>> all.
Sorry, I think my explanations were not clear.
I get this error when trying to insert .
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:00:08 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> So in the first window - it asks you for the filename of th2 file (not
>> XVI file).
Aah. Understood. I readed about saving th2 files first in Wookey's
writing, but missed this window was asking me for it. I was not worried
about rela
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:11:11 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> I would like to change it exactly the way, you suggested. To add
>> extend option to centerline (remove it from point). Then extend
>> centerline first - and then everything else will work normally. There
>> will be no need to draw stati
After trying to close whitout saving before -so got message about "Save
it now?- I got Error: invalid command name ".xth.me.sf.sbar"
invalid command name ".xth.me.sf.sbar"
invalid command name ".xth.me.sf.sbar"
while executing
"$sbar configure -text [lindex $xth(gui,sbar,$aname) 0]"
(proc
Hi all,
I wrote a preliminary text about therion on "english" It is not
finished, but I would get some feedback. So, if you have a little bit
of spare time, you could visit
http://www.infonegocio.com/tatel/therion_for_cavers.txt
and drop a word about it on the list. Gramatical corrections will b
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:06:59 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> Declination can be entered also for entire survey (all centerlines in
>> it) - and it can depend on date. At least, we use it this way more
>> often.
So it is calcalated automatically? Could I, say to have a survey with
year 2000 decli
Hi, this is my first post
I'm trying to compile in debian woody with Tcl/Tk8.4 from
www.backports.org. BWidget is 1.3 from woody. Tkimg is compiled from
source. This is what I am getting:
tatel at ganbo:~/src/therion$ make
g++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thdate.o thdate.cxx
g++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX
Hi again,
It worked like a charm
Many thanks,
Roman
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:50:42 +
Olly Betts wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 12:45:09AM +0100, Roman Mu?oz wrote:
>
>>> > thparse.cxx:756: implicit declaration of function `int round(...)'
>>> > make: *** [thparse.o] Error 1
>
>>
>> roun
Hi,
I'm missing (in Linux) the model viewer available on windows
Is this rigth? If yes, what coul I use to view models?
Thanks,
Roman
Thanks, I missed it on thbook.pdf (oops)
But ...
tatel at ganbo:~/src/therion/thtom/linux$ make
gcc -Wall -s -DGL12-I/usr/X11R6/include -DIMLIB2 -c -o Tom0.2/tom.o
../src/tom.c
In file included from ../src/tom.c:3:
../src/tom.h:4: tcl.h: No such file or directory
../src/tom.h:5: tk.h: No su
Yes, I do use debian woody. But I'm not sure about what "debian version"
means. I'm building from therion-0.3.5.tar.gz So I'm not using any
"debian version", right? However, I can't find tcltom in the sources.
Where is it?
I used to do ./configure --with-tcl-includes=/usr/include/tcl8.4 to get
tcl
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:51:11 +
Olly Betts wrote:
>> Roman: it sounds like you don't have the relevant -dev packages
>> installed for tcl, tk, opengl, etc.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Olly
I do have tcl8.4-dev and tk8.4-dev installed. I downloaded them from
www.backports.org. May be I'll try to c
Wookey,
Well, after some search, I found an old post about "old debian
problem... need to link/usr/include/tcl8.3/tcl.h to /usr/include/tcl.h"
So I did:
ganbo:/home/tatel# ln -s /usr/include/tcl8.4/tk.h /usr/include/
ganbo:/home/tatel# ln -s /usr/include/tcl8.4/tcl.h /usr/include/
ganbo:/home/
No I did not... at the first moment. Now it is working. I'm quite impressed.
Next days I'll try editing of sites and those scrap things.
Has somebody experienced this need of soft links to /usr/include/tcl.h et al?
Thanks to all who helped me.
Best regards,
Roman
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:00:2
Hi
After some playing with Therion, I'm quite happy... Now I'm considering to
translate it to spanish... Question is: in the texts_es.txt file should I do
therion: point station:temporary
es: punto estacion:temporal
(i e translating all words)
or
therion: point station:temporary
es: point esta
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:43:08 +0100 (CET)
"Martin Budaj" wrote:
>>
>> The names like "point station:temporary" are internal Therion identifiers
>> which shouldn't be translated literally. The best way is to export also
>> english translation (perl process.pl export en)
OK, I exported the fr fil
OK, thanks
May be you would get the texts_es.txt file? Also, may be I could send a
translated thbook_es.pdf (perhaps next month or so). I don't promise but it is
now in my TODO list
because my caving friends don't worrry too much about learning english...
Regards,
Roman
Hi,
Here is the translated file. I observed there is no spanish translation in UIS
symbols site, so I worked with some freedom, i,e on flute's case, which seems
to be referred to 3 different things (marmitas (pits worked on rivers by
pebbles), cupola (dome on the ceil) and channels
For all th
I think Visual Topo is, by far, the more widely used one, at least by young
people. My friends are using it, and there are caving groups from other regions
who have translated Visual Topo's manual, etc. Those people would be very
interested in getting their LRUD data in any software to change to
Could you give me a list of strings to translate user interface?
I started editing files in xtherion directory just for fun; after the
first rush, I can see aprox 60% of my user interface in spanish.
However, I'm getting some nasty errors about bad index entries because I
feared to touch some thin
Martin,
I understand how translating is a complex work. However, we are
considering to organize some survey stages and need good software for
it. I think therion is a serious candidate for many reasons. But we need
it (mostly) translated because:
First: obviously all the people needs get map outp
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:36:08 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> 1. VTopo has PLT export :) => even existing developement version is
>> able to to import centerline data in this format.
>>(...)
>> Very soon, we will add support for passage dimensions to be drawn
>> automatically on the backgroun
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:25:33 +0100
Martin Sluka wrote:
>> I simply removed the AlphaTk application and reinstaled the latest
>> Aqua Tcl again. And repaired permisions by Disk Utility. There should
>> be much more inteligent way how to use both applications together,
>> but I'm not an ..nix guru
Hi,
I have some concerns about pop-up strings. While they are nice to start
up with Xtherion, once the user is used to GUI they could be annoying.
So main concern is wether it's possible to get pop-up strings inactive,
may be by clicking some checkbutton or so.
Regards,
Roman
On Wed, 02 Ma
On my debian box:
$THERION is not set, even if Xtherion is running (echo $THERION shows
nothing)
xtherion ini is on ~/src/therion/xtherion/xtherion.ini. No search for
xtherion.ini seems to be done in xtherion directory.
So, after editing xtherion.ini, I need to move it manually under
/etc. Else,
You are rigth. I noticed that after editing xtherion, main menu was
slower at loading. This seems not to be the case when placed on
.therion. But I still think it would be better if this directory would
be created by "make install" and xtherion.ini moved accordingly (or
environment variable set rig
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:46:11 +
Wookey wrote:
>> Are you using the standard Debian package, or your own build?
>> Presumably the latter.
I'm using my own build
>> You are saying that you'd like ./therion.ini to be checked as well as
>> /etc/therion.ini ? That would be sensible. File a bug t
HGi all,
After re-reading my last postings, I found my own language somewhat
sharp.
So I must beg your pardon. I can only say that it's the nicotine (or
better, lack of it in my blood) who was apeaking. I think I'll get out
for some days or at least until I get some valium.
Best regards,
Roman
HGi all,
After re-reading my last postings, I found my own language somewhat
sharp.
So I must beg your pardon. I can only say that it's the nicotine (or
better, lack of it in my blood) who was apeaking. I think I'll get out
for some days or at least until I get some valium.
Best regards,
Roman
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:39:56 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> 1. If installation will overwrite these files - than user will loose
>> it's settings.
I think we could check for the files. If they exist in rigth places, we
could assume they are good, so install script a) does nothing b) rename
them
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 00:21:22 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> There is a new developement snapshot with new extended elevation
>> processing. Now you can work with it like with plan/elevation
>> projections. Specifications can be done via extend option in
>> centerline(see CHANGES file). Also
>>
>>
Got this when exiting from Xtherion:
invalid command name ".xth.te.sf.sbar"
invalid command name ".xth.te.sf.sbar"
while executing
"$sbar configure -text [lindex $xth(gui,sbar,$aname) 0]"
(procedure "xth_status_bar_pop" line 7)
invoked from within
"xth_status_bar_pop te"
("after" s
Hi there,
I would to have some nice statistics on my legend. But it seems as I
need to do some black magic with those code tex-map things. There are
some nice things as \cavelength, \topoteam or this kind of grial called
\legendcontent. They look as what I need. But I'm getting stuck (again).
Co
Hi,
Still I can't get any statistics. Centerline data is not imported, but
in therion's format
There are my thconfig and .th files. Hope somebody will see what is
wrong.
Regards,
Roman
# thconfig
# thconfig template file
# INPUT PART
# We
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:21:14 +0100
Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>> You are doing nothing wrong - currently therion export only statistics
>> from centerline objects associated with scraps. And you have no scraps
>> => no statistics. This item is in the TODO.S file (now completely in
>> English :)
Aha
Hi all,
I guess that type section for lines only sets a concrete line width,
and may be sets it not to be clipped, but it would be all. Rigth?
I wonder wether these nice section lines I have seen, wich have an
arrowhead are made ex profeso (type arrow, -clip off or so) or are
pre-built.
Regards,
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:17:13 +0100 (CET)
"Martin Budaj" wrote:
>> If the line has control points (it's an arc not a segment) it is drawn
>> in a special way where the middle part (which crosses the passage) is
>> omitted(thbook footnote 15). Optionally you may specify direction
>> arrows using d
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:41:24 +0100 (CET)
"Martin Budaj" wrote:
>> You have probably misplaced the control points -- they determine how
>> long segments will be drawn. See the attached picture which displays
>> their correct position.
Ah cojones. I was unable to understand footnote. Now I see h
Hi all,
I compiled last snapshot.
Pop-up strings are nice :) Are there any other changes?
Regards,
Roman
May be I'm wrong, but, may be "extend ignore could do the trick)
Or is it deprecated?
Cheers
Roman
Stacho Mudrak escribió:
>> I have just a quick question : on a survey, I have some measures between
>> stations that are perpendicular to the main axis, so I don't want them
>> to appear on the
El al., 02-10-2006 a las 11:34 +0200, Stacho Mudrak escribió:
> ... including new 3D viewer named LOCH is able to download on the server.
>
> To compile it on Linux, you will need wxWidgets and VTK.
Hi there!
I downloaded wxWidgets-2.6.3 debs from backports.org
VTK-5.0.2 compiled from source (
El ig., 08-10-2006 a las 21:51 +0200, Stacho Mudrak escribió:
> There is new separate 3D viewer, not integrated in xtherion. It is
> called loch (you should have loch executable in loch subdirectory, if it
> worked OK). It has also own and new 3D file format (.lox extension).
OK. Many thanks.
El ig., 08-10-2006 a las 21:16 +0100, Wookey escribió:
> > Some questions:
> > b) I'm on debian sarge, vtk-4 and wxwindows-2.4 could be used?
>
> There is quite a lot of change between wx2.4 and wx2.6. It is no doubt
> possible, but Stacho may have used special 2.6 features - I don't
> know.
We
El al., 09-10-2006 a las 09:04 +0200, Stacho Mudrak escribió:
> It should work with both versions of wx, because developement is done
> on non-unicode version and only final release is compiled in unicode
> version. Just int. characters are not displayed correctly when
> non-unicode version
Hi,
After compiling therion model viewer, I found something has changed, so
I post this to get it recorded:
We need:
tcl/tk8.4 installed
(if you are on debian, aptitude install tcl8.4-dev tk8.4-dev)
(as root)
ln -s /usr/include/tcl8.4/tk.h /usr/include
ln -s /usr/include/tcl8.4/tcl.h /usr/inc
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