Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki.com vs. TiddlyWiki Community Site

2011-11-16 Thread Alex Hough
I think that the problem at hand might be best re-framed as an organisational problem. Its not a technical issue, rather its about people, roles and resources and organising them. Alex ps. i have scanned the thread above, there are some excellent points. I hope to return to them later. -- You

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki.com vs. TiddlyWiki Community Site

2011-11-16 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I'm just seeing an ordinary TiddlySpace at http://tiddlywiki-org2.tiddlyspace.com/, is that what you intended? Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:10 PM, rakugo jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:   b) While a pure community site would deliver a lot, I believe, it risks not being as prominent

[tw] Re: Tackling File Importing in modern browsers

2011-11-16 Thread julien23
Hi Your plugin is nicely installed and I can see the wizard similar to yours. I'll try to be more specific with my trials. Maybe my use is not what you intended to... 4th point being the most important to me. Thanks Have a nice day 1. FILE (Browse) file:///Z:/look_cdmb1101/index.html imports

[tw] Re: Tackling File Importing in modern browsers

2011-11-16 Thread rakugo
1. FILE (Browse) file:///Z:/look_cdmb1101/index.html imports fine from : file:///Z:/airbank_tw/index.html 2. WEB file:///Z:/look_cdmb1101/index.html wont imports from :http://www.TiddlyTools.com/ There is something wrong with that url please try another. This still remains a problem

[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki.com vs. TiddlyWiki Community Site

2011-11-16 Thread rakugo
Sorry I had a private SideBar which was the most important bit... changed. On Nov 16, 10:20 am, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just seeing an ordinary TiddlySpace athttp://tiddlywiki-org2.tiddlyspace.com/, is that what you intended? Best wishes Jeremy On Tue,

Re: [tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread chris . dent
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, tiddlygrp wrote: For the client tw adding a uuid doesn't matter directly. It wouldn't allow for tiddlers with different titles to exist, as it is forbidden in tw now. It would be just an extra field. In fact just introducing a uuid field needs no user interface. Yes.

[tw] Re: Business Thought [was: Important Message from Eric]

2011-11-16 Thread Yakov
Ok, at least I can see your point. If we establish a forum as a google.group's successor, it should be better than it is (although, this seems true only if there will be a linear representation of threads still available -- to read the upcoming threads just for answering/exploring new things --

[tw] Re: Displaying MathML equations in a tiddler

2011-11-16 Thread Yakov
I have tried MAthJax but I could not get it to work offline. This should be probably because of the same issue that caused problems with jsMath. For details, see [1] (for Opera and Chrome, see the third post). I am looking at jsMath but I prefer MathML since it seems easier to understand and

[tw] Re: TiddlySpaceMailBox - messages from/to on TiddlySpace

2011-11-16 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Nov 15, 11:12 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi TwWebWizards I made a little TW-app (*not* HTML) for messages  meant for inclusion... @mailbox. I depends on the ability to evaluate parameters - so I set evaluateMacroParameters = full in a systemConfig tiddler [[zzMailBoxConfig]]...

[tw] Re: TiddlySpaceMailBox - messages from/to on TiddlySpace

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
Hi In @mailbox Every message has a reply link - doesn't matter, because messages are opened in your own space and if you edit it, and add the recipients username - it's the same thing... Limit the list of topics to a number which fits a tiddler and a common pagedisplay Now I've added a

Re: [tw] Re: Business Thought [was: Important Message from Eric]

2011-11-16 Thread Miles Fidelman
Yakov wrote: But once again, it seems that there is some point in replacing the group with a forum (easier way to search old threads). I'd suggest hosting one's own email list - install mailman or sympa on tiddlywiki.org. There are pretty good archiving options for both of them. Miles

[tw] Re: TiddlySpaceMailBox - messages from/to on TiddlySpace

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
Hi Chris Sorry!!!    http://mama.tiddlyspace.com/ is running code which is generating requests to the server that start like this: GET /bags/bauwebijl)*Mail%20*(@bauwebijl)*Mail%20*(@bauwebijl).. and go on for several _thousand_ more characters. This is the result of an exponential

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread PMario
As Jeremy said the easiest way to use UUIDs would be, to use it as a tiddler title. All TW core functions will work quite well. The only problem will be, the users. a) If you need to link a tiddler in text, you'll have to create a [[prettyLink|0d9b98c0-5f73-45eb-ac4a-386d445905e3]] to make a

Re: [tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread chris . dent
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, PMario wrote: As Jeremy said the easiest way to use UUIDs would be, to use it as a tiddler title. All TW core functions will work quite well. No, not at all. It is not the easiest, and it would break everything. Because the uuid isn't there for

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
I would argue that also a standard TiddlyWiki is dished out via some server, hence serving tiddlers in a predefined way. In other words, while of course one would expect some client for editing tiddlers, it always is a server that delivers these uuid's, since they are stored in tiddlers and thus

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
I would argue that also a standard TiddlyWiki is dished out via some server, hence serving tiddlers in a predefined way. In other words, while of course one would expect there to be some client for editing tiddlers, it always is a server that delivers these uuid's, since they are stored in

Re: [tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread FND
I entirely agree with cdent here (surprise!), and his explanations don't leave much else for me to say. I would argue that also a standard TiddlyWiki is dished out via some server, hence serving tiddlers in a predefined way. I don't understand the meaning of this. Are you simply saying there

[tw] giewiki - beginner questions

2011-11-16 Thread Seba
Hi guys, I have a couple of questions for giewiki users: 1. Can anyone login with administrator rights (the initial login screen has that checkbox option)? This would not be ok for me, since I need only one administrator user and not everyone else should have this role. 2. For some reason my

[tw] Html Tiddler Sections Plugin

2011-11-16 Thread MGT
Hi all, I've written a plugin to enhance the tiddler##section functionality to allow it to work with html-syntax, as currently this functionality only works with wiki-syntax tiddlers. The plugin modifies the core TiddlyWiki.prototype.getTiddlerText() function and can be found at:

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
list filter [tag[U-U-I-D]] Why would you ever do this? Because with uuids disambiguation would be based upon them and not upon titles. Perhaps it would be based on both at the same time if, as jeremy suggested, titles were being abused for the purpose, but then again, why would it be called a

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
If you don't see a traditional TiddlyWiki that is simply served as is, but cooked or computed on the fly as does TiddlyWeb, then you should get the idea, even though my understanding and use of terminology with respect to actual webservice implementations might be rather poor. tb -- You

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
If you see a traditional TiddlyWiki arriving at any one browser not only as something that is simply served as is, but rather cooked or computed on the fly as in the case of TiddlyWeb, then you should get the idea ...regardless of whether my understanding or use of terminology with respect to

[tw] TagSearchPlugin - WikiLinkSearchPlugin for Word Completion??

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
Hi TwWizards (@tobias) What if when you start writing a link in a tiddler: [[wi .. (or: [[| wi..) - [1] the tagseach dialog would open with instant suggestions for Word completion [2]: existing tiddler titles, tags (via GoToPlugin) or words from a TagSearchConfig tiddler (simple list of

[tw] Re: giewiki - beginner questions

2011-11-16 Thread Bauwe Bijl
Hi Seba, 1. Can anyone login with administrator rights (the initial login screen has that checkbox option)? This would not be ok for me, since I need only one administrator user and not everyone else should have this role. You can set access very accurate in Giewiki. Per TiddlyWiki page it

[tw] Re: TagSearchPlugin - WikiLinkSearchPlugin for Word Completion??

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Måns Honestly... this seems to involve a considerable amount of tricky fiddling, especially with all the event handling around what does haven focus, when and where and for how long, etc... GotoPlugin being at the heart of the searchbox in TagSearch, Eric really does have a much better

[tw] Re: TagSearchPlugin - WikiLinkSearchPlugin for Word Completion??

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Hey Måns, Honestly, I belive this involves a considerable amount of tricky fiddling, especially with all the event handling around what does haven focus, when and where and for how long, etc... GotoPlugin being at the heart of the searchbox in TagSearch, Eric really does have a much better

[tw] Re: TagSearchPlugin - WikiLinkSearchPlugin for Word Completion??

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Addendum... An alternative to some suggest-as-you-go auto completion might, in fact, be one that is rather invoked by pressing a special key combination, maybe CTRL-DOWN, in a popup or overlay. Then, you could have your defaut GotoPlugin input field and it's listbox for search results... but

[tw] Re: TagSearchPlugin - WikiLinkSearchPlugin for Word Completion??

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Probably there should be two inputs, one for the search and the section to provide a pretty title, so that when you finally hit enter, you automatically get your pretty link syntax... so just the other way around. which makes sense to, because you select your target tiddler first and then you

[tw] Re: TagSearchPlugin - WikiLinkSearchPlugin for Word Completion??

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Probably there should be two inputs, one for the search and the other for an optional pretty title, so that when you finally hit enter, you automatically get your pretty link syntax... so it's kind of the other way around than the actual syntax, but it makes sense... because you select your target

[tw] Re: TagSearchPlugin - WikiLinkSearchPlugin for Word Completion??

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
Hi Tobias Thanks for explaining some of the obstacles for making sth like this happen :-) I hope Jon or/and Eric will/can see some potential in an undertaking like this, and maybe even get inspired by your TagSearchPlugin. (Imho: It's a pure stroke of genius: nice design and intuitive

[tw] Re: Html Tiddler Sections Plugin

2011-11-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Mark, In your plugin, wiki and html sections do not work hand in hand if you mix them in the same tiddler. But maybe that is the desired behaviour. What I mean is nasty stuff like this... !one content !two html h1three/h1 content /html/% !FOUR content !END%/ ? tb -- You received this

Re: [tw] Re: Business Thought [was: Important Message from Eric]

2011-11-16 Thread Miles Fidelman
Hi Ben, Thanks for the pointers, but they sort of reinforce that it seems less work to build from scratch. Ben Gillies wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:33 PM, cd...@peermore.com chris.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 7:26 pm, Miles Fidelmanmfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: I expect

[tw] Re: Html Tiddler Sections Plugin

2011-11-16 Thread Eric Shulman
The plugin modifies the core TiddlyWiki.prototype.getTiddlerText() function and can be found at:http://htmltiddlersectionsplugin.tiddlyspot.com/ The plugin works great, but there is a problem that I have been racking my brain over and can't seem to solve.  If the tiddler

[tw] Re: Html Tiddler Sections Plugin

2011-11-16 Thread MGT
Hi Tobias, Yes, I didn't intend for it to work with mixed html and wiki content, but rather with tiddlers that are either only wiki or only html content. The reason is because I use the tinymce html editor rather than wiki-syntax for most of my tiddlers, and I therefore wanted a way to use the

[tw] Re: Html Tiddler Sections Plugin

2011-11-16 Thread MGT
Hi Eric, Thanks for the nice description of how your plugin works - but still can't figure what might be causing the problem. I've tried stepping through with a debugger, but I'm having no luck. I'll also try and modify the code so that it hijacks rather than replaces the core function, and

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread PMario
Why would you ever do this? A simple usecase. tiddlerName | UUID fruits | apple | banana | is tagged is tagged list filter [tag[]] will create a list: * * with the right list macro and a lookup table it will be: * Apfel * Banane Since I only

[tw] Re: TiddlySpaceMailBox - messages from/to on TiddlySpace

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
Hi Chris Looks like there may be a bug somewhere in your stuff. Something strange is going on! Even if I disincluded the @mailbox space - one tiddler seems to keep making problems. When I try to open: http://mama.tiddlyspace.com/#TS-MailBox2011-11-16%40mama everything slows down - and the

[tw] Re: TiddlySpaceMailBox - messages from/to on TiddlySpace

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
Hi again How do I delete it when it won't even load?? I opened it in safemode http://mama.tiddlyspace.com/_safe Is the problem caused the title of the tiddler ends with: ...@mama ?? I guess the conclusion might be that it's not my mailbox application which causes trouble, its the title of a

[tw] Re: TiddlySpaceMailBox - messages from/to on TiddlySpace

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
Hmm I will reinclude the @mailbox space...- as it doesn't seem to be related to the problem.. Something is still wrong If I click on a link to open bauwe's message in my own space (in the mailbox it is wikified as it should) - it won't open. It is showing a lot of requests to the server and

[tw] Re: TiddlySpaceMailBox - messages from/to on TiddlySpace

2011-11-16 Thread Måns
It doesn't matter if I use the message messages.spaceName macro - or my own mailbox code... Same problem... On 17 Nov., 07:21, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm I will reinclude the @mailbox space...- as it doesn't seem to be related to the problem.. Something is still wrong If I

[tw] Re: Tiddler-Based-Communication-Protocol

2011-11-16 Thread Poul
I'd definitely agree that it should be a field, but without semantics attached to it, I'm not sure that it would even make sense to agree on what the name should be. Giewiki, for example, uses 'id' for what has a UUID format, but without any guarantee that the associated content is the same -