[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin: dynamic table gets search ui

2019-12-23 Thread A Gloom
An explanation of the code Other than as a Windows type explorer of tiddlers, it serves other purposes-- a filter builder for count widget, lists for use in other tiddlers, Advanced Search> Filter tab for exporting selection of tiddlers -- Selection section Table

[tw5] Re: Open multiple tiddlers with one button

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
David, Very easy and exposes a valuable piece of tiddlywiki knowledge worth learning. As you may know, on tiddlywiki.com the following produces a list of tiddlers; <$list filter="[tag[Field Operators]]"> you can use any filter to generate this list Now we can look for an action that will

[tw5] Looking for a transclude trick (Challenge)

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
Folks, To cut a long story short I wanted to challenge the group to see if there is a way to extract a tiddler title from an intermediate transclude. attached and Illustrated below; *Why?* Because in a number of new methods I am developing this is a gap in what I can do to simplify the

[tw5] Open multiple tiddlers with one button

2019-12-23 Thread David Allen
Hey everyone, I'm looking for a way to open multiple tiddlers with one button. Anyone know of some way to do this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
Chuck et al.. Extending some transclusion and template play I have being doing recently I thought would would be a good method, Create a colorme tiddler no tags needed perhaps use the system prefix $:/ <$transclude tiddler=< > mode="block" /> Now rather than use a regular transclude use

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 11:29:31 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote: > > If I define my macro like this: > \define colortransclude(tiddler) > @@background-color:#e0e0e0; > {{$tiddler$}} > @@ > \end > The gray background no longer shows up at all. > > If I define my macro like this: > \define

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 11:23:12 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote: > > I posted an image but the post was deleted. > That post was flagged for moderation (but I don't know why). I *approved* the posting (from the moderator controls), but then it says it was deleted instead of appearing. I've

[tw5] Re: Favorites Plugin 4 beta: a rewrite of favorites 3.x

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mohammad It is interesting! Somewhere in this your "favourites" are evolving from being "flat-level" indicators into something more like a "structured bookmark system". I'm sure that is good! *Just not sure the rest of the Internet uses them that way!* It is an interesting question

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
If I define my macro like this: \define colortransclude(tiddler) @@background-color:#e0e0e0; {{$tiddler$}} @@ \end The gray background no longer shows up at all. If I define my macro like this: \define colortransclude(tiddler) @@background-color:#e0e0e0;{{$tiddler$}}@@ \end The header

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
The macro is now working but TW is not rendering the header in the transcluded text correctly. Header is formatted like "! Header". So when "Study utilities" is transcluded into "Study main" the header in "Study utilities" is not rendered at all. It just appears as wiki text. This is what I

[tw5] Re: Favorites Plugin 4 beta: a rewrite of favorites 3.x

2019-12-23 Thread Mohammad
Hi Josiah, As soon as favorites get large and larger, it is difficult to find what you are looking in the fav list easily, sometimes is better to make a search in TW standard search box, so - the favorites folder has been added to let you categorize your favs - drag and drop has been improved

[tw5] Re: Favorites Plugin 4 beta: a rewrite of favorites 3.x

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mohammad I'm writing here as a user. WHAT is the advantage of the (nice functions) additions you just made? They are very accomplished. BUT what do they ADD to the primary aim of simply bookmarking something I can find later? I am NOT in any way criticising. I am merely thinking about

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Chuck R. wrote: > > Ok I had to give my tiddler that defined the macro a tag of > "$:/tags/Macro". It works now. > Right! Understanding "scope" of apply in TW is critical. This is not just on macros. Given TW is fragments then "apply" of macro, css etc needs to be similarly specific. Going

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Mohammad
Use Shiraz: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/ It has a plenty of panels, alert and textbox for such things! Good luck --Mohammad On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 8:09:43 PM UTC+3:30, Chuck R. wrote: > > Hmm, it does not seem to be working. The transcluded tiddler doesn't > appear at all now, in

[tw5] Re: GetFirstLine, with links intact, in TW5?

2019-12-23 Thread Mohammad
Well, Here glossary are defined a data tiddler (or one data tiddler per glossary set). Making link is not difficult but it shows all content in glossary table. Your idea can be implemented to substitute data tiddler with ordinary tiddler, then summary should be in a summary field and extended

[tw5] Re: GetFirstLine, with links intact, in TW5?

2019-12-23 Thread springer
Mohammed, Thanks, this looks very useful and interesting! It still seems (at least at first look?) not to support links *within* the glossary list text (or abbreviation table), but I look forward to exploring refnotes, since all of these functions are clearly helpful for academic purposes.

[tw5] Re: GetFirstLine, with links intact, in TW5?

2019-12-23 Thread Mohammad
Have you tried refnotes https://kookma.github.io/Refnotes/ It has a great glossary features and work both on mobile and desktop --Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
[image: tw5_transclude1.png] Now when I use my transcludecolor macro the header in the source tiddler (that is being transcluded) is not rendering the header properly. See screen shot. So the tiddler "Study utilities" is to be transcluded into "Studies main". -- You received this message

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
Ok I had to give my tiddler that defined the macro a tag of "$:/tags/Macro". It works now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
Hmm, it does not seem to be working. The transcluded tiddler doesn't appear at all now, in the other tiddler that contains it. I just enter my \define into a normal tiddler and it's a global macro right? This is what I entered in a new tiddler: \define colortransclude(tiddler)

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
Thanks Eric, I will look into making a macro since I haven't made one before. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread PMario
Hi, Can you post - a "slow" filter, that contains the listed operator? - The number of tiddlers, that the wiki contains - number of tags - How many tiddlers have several tags - If a tiddler is tagged, who many other tiddlers have the same tag The above questions will help to create a

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Diego Mesa
Only slightly related but I always like to recommend Tobias' "inc" plugin: https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#inc which "Enhance transclusion by including tiddlers with an on-hover toolbar". I think it should be part of the core. On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 10:18:33 AM UTC-5, Eric

Re: [tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread David Allen
I've learned things since about the listed[] operator. It doesn't help at all when I do the following: filter="[listed[]]" On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 8:11:06 AM UTC-6, Hubert wrote: > > > I think, the best way is, to provide us with a test-case wiki, if you have >> performance problems.

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 6:44:24 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote: > > When I transclude text I'd like to make the background color different. > But I don't want to use this every time: > @@background-color:yellow; > {{tiddler1}} > @@ > You could write a macro that wraps the transclusion in a

[tw5] Re: Query: Are there on TiddlyWikis about "42"?

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Repeat for email ... On Monday, 23 December 2019 15:49:44 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Waiting for the answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aboZctrHfK8 > > 42 is a primary pseudo-number: https://youtu.be/D6tINlNluuY > > TT > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[tw5] Re: TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
If a new CSS class is added in the future just for transcluded text then it looks like the TranscludeWidget would also have to be updated. https://tiddlywiki.com/#TranscludeWidget -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe

[tw5] TW5: auto color background of transcluded text

2019-12-23 Thread Chuck R.
My system: TW5.1.19 on tiddlyspot.com, I use the latest Chrome version to get to the wiki When I transclude text I'd like to make the background color different. But I don't want to use this every time: @@background-color:yellow; {{tiddler1}} @@ because that's a manual process. I'd like a

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
TonyM wrote: > > Not so sure about the switch you mention > Simply that at the end of explicit parents is the *implying* of previous parents. > ... if you generate backwards until two unknown parents for every > individual you can stop there. It is a finite regression. > ... It would be

Re: [tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread Hubert
> I think, the best way is, to provide us with a test-case wiki, if you have > performance problems. That's the only way, we have the chance to do > something about it. > Again, I'm not the original poster here and it is not me who has reported issues. I only posted here to suggest an

Re: [tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread PMario
On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 2:25:54 PM UTC+1, Hubert wrote: ... > .. I'm personally "deprecating" tags in my own wiki. > I wouldn't deprecate tags. They are still the easiest way for users to create "structure" in TW and it's the mechanism that, most likely, gets performance improvements,

[tw5] Setting up Bob behind an HTTPS Apache proxy

2019-12-23 Thread Enrico Guiraud
Hi, I am trying to setup a Bob server on my VPS. I have googled for resources but what I could dig up (mainly this example apache configuration ) does not seem to be working, and

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Sure. I was already looking at it. I'll comment tomorrow. Best wishes Josiah On Monday, 23 December 2019 14:33:18 UTC+1, bimlas wrote: > > TonyM, Josiah, > > Although the topic is really interesting, but since I needed a family tree > for my mindmap solution, could you please test it? > >

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread bimlas
TonyM, If you arrive at an unknown parent the tree can not be drawn with names, > which is the same when you arrive at a living descendant with no children. > You may have touched an important thing: Originally, I thought it was difficult to deal with an unknown ancestor because we store the

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread bimlas
TonyM, Josiah, Although the topic is really interesting, but since I needed a family tree for my mindmap solution, could you please test it? https://bimlas.gitlab.io/demo/tw5/term-chart.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

Re: [tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread Hubert
Tony, Please note I'm not the original poster here. I only suggested an extension to the listed[] operator. I believe your suggestion might be an interesting solution for someone who's heavily invested in using tags. I'm personally "deprecating" tags in my own wiki. Regards, Hubert On

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
Josiah Not so sure about the switch you mention but if you generate backwards until two unknown parents for every individual you can stop there. It is a finite regression. It would be quite easy to do this and thus determine the maximum number of relationships that can be known from the data

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Update for those on email ... I corrected the line ... "For instance, in a "term chart", say you SEE ONLY that the parents of Ego are "F & M" (father and mother); then you might IMPLY their parents are "MF, MM, FF & FM" (i.e. mother's father etc) when not shown. But where do you stop?" to

Re: [tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
Hubert How are you populating your list fields? The reason I ask is, it normally occurs when you are using a tiddler as a tag and try and reorder the tags. If these lists are generated by tags use tag filter operators instead, many also use indexing for improved. Perhaps you could select

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
TonyM: > > If mother aunt and uncle exist they must be brothers and sisters. Therefor > unless you have information to the contrary they share the same parents. It > is thus fair to have unknown mother and father but they must exist. > Ciao Tony & Bimlas, Right. Everyone has parents. Even if

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
Further to my last point. If you arrive at an unknown parent the tree can not be drawn with names, which is the same when you arrive at a living descendant with no children. However unlike the future, in the past you can assume an infinate tree of individuals having two parents. The only

[tw5] Re: GetFirstLine, with links intact, in TW5?

2019-12-23 Thread springer
Eric and all, Might it still be possible to get the links within the definition blurbs to render as links, so that this compact glossary tiddler is richly weblike, as it was in Classic? (I'm posting

[tw5] Re: GetFirstLine behavior in TW5?

2019-12-23 Thread springer
Hi Tony, Thanks for the reply. I admit that I'm cheating a bit with leaning on the group during the transition time because I need to get the website reliably functional asap (for teaching starting in January), and can come back to appreciating more of what's under the hood in the summer. I

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
Bimlas Some thoughts without having worked through the details. If mother aunt and uncle exist they must be brothers and sisters. Therefor unless you have information to the contrary they share the same parents. It is thus fair to have unknown mother and father but they must exist. Remember

Re: [tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread Hubert
Hello Jeremy et al., The listed[] operator just scans the "list" field of each tiddler, a > significantly more efficient process. > Currently, in the example [[HelloThere]listed[]] the listed[] operator will output all tiddler titles

[tw5] Re: GetFirstLine behavior in TW5?

2019-12-23 Thread TonyM
Springer Sorry, the filter tag[definition] was only partial. I just assumed you would have a proper filter according to your needs. E.g. [all[current]] etc... Regards Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread bimlas
Josiah, TonyM, It is not ready yet, but I would like you to try to see if it is useful at all. https://bimlas.gitlab.io/demo/tw5/term-chart.html I do not write too many explanations because I wonder whether its use is clear or difficult to understand. Does it make sense for such a "mindmap",

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
bimlas wrote > > ... but I have a problem with implementation. How do I indicate in Josiah's > second term chart > > that "father" has sisters ("aunt" and "aunt")? We don't know who their > parents are, so they can't come

[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-23 Thread bimlas
TonyM, I agree every person should have there own tiddler and a field for each > essential relationship is important e.g. mother father but my siblings are > a relationship that should be derived not encoded, ie they share one or > more of my parents. Or cousins the children of my aunts and

[tw5] Re: Favorites Plugin 4 beta: a rewrite of favorites 3.x

2019-12-23 Thread Mohammad
A new update is pushed to GitHub Still experimental and looks for feedback. Demo https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/ Release 4.0.1 - Dec 23th, 2019 - [NEW] favorite folder - [NEW] rename folder using inline editbox - [NEW] drag and drop between folders - [NEW] add new

Re: [tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> Hi David. The listed[] operator needs to open every tiddler and have a look, > if there is a "backlink" wikitext in the tiddler text. > > ... Internally the function needs to parse the whole tiddler content, which > is "expensive". The results of the parsing are cached. So a second lookup >

[tw5] Re: listed operator slowing down my wiki

2019-12-23 Thread PMario
On Sunday, December 22, 2019 at 9:27:32 AM UTC+1, David Allen wrote: > > Is anyone else having serious performance issues when using the listed[] > operator in a filter? Does anyone know of a more efficient way to > accomplish the same thing? > Hi David. The listed[] operator needs to open