[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-13 Thread EduardWagner
On 12 Feb., 16:22, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: it now seems there's a TiddlyWiki core bug causing it I've committed a temporary workaround:      http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/changeset/8731 Note, however, that this sort of rename-overwrite isn't actually permitted in terms of TiddlyWeb - that is

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-12 Thread FND
it now seems there's a TiddlyWiki core bug causing it I've committed a temporary workaround: http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/changeset/8731 Note, however, that this sort of rename-overwrite isn't actually permitted in terms of TiddlyWeb - that is intentional. So we end up with a bit of a

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-11 Thread FND
tried both tricks, but the problem is still there That's very odd indeed. Would you mind zipping up that test instance directory and sending it to me (directly) so we can investigate further? -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-11 Thread FND
i cleaned up the hole installation and now it works again No idea what might have gone wrong before - but for now, let's just be happy it works. 3) rename tiddler 1 to 2 and changed tiddler 1 contents (without reloading the wiki) [...] but tiddler 1 isn't deleted (yes i'am a bad guy)

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-10 Thread FND
rename tiddler 2 to 3 and changed tiddler 3 contents (without reloading the wiki) - get the message 'Error saving 3: Precondition Failed', filestore: tiddler 2 is not renamed and tiddler 3 is created I'm afraid I can't replicate this; it works fine for me on the nightly instance*. Can you

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-10 Thread FND
here are the logs We might have an idea why this is happening, but aren't quite sure. Could you test it on the nightly server referenced above? -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-10 Thread FND
yes i tested it on peermore and it works there!?! So there's some kind of mismatch on your side then... I don't think it's a server-side issue, so I'd first delete the plugins (especially the adaptor) and add them anew - e.g. a manual copy paste from SVN*. Should that not do the trick,

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-10 Thread Oveek Mallik
Again, many thanks for your efforts. -- F. I should also thank you, Eduard, for your detailed what works, what doesn't, posts. It was actually two of your other threads posted a while ago that got me to try tiddlyweb. It's amazing, the more I use it the more I realize its power and

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-10 Thread Oveek Mallik
Again, many thanks for your efforts. -- F. I should also thank you, Eduard, for your detailed what works, what doesn't, posts. It was actually two of your other threads posted a while ago that got me to try tiddlyweb. It's amazing, the more I use it the more I realize its power and

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-09 Thread FND
Once again you prove to be an invaluable help, Eduard (even though I'm starting to wish we would just disallow renaming... ). tiddler 1 is renamed to tiddler 2, but contents still tiddler 1 Right. That was because we hadn't considered that someone might actually make other changes (e.g.

[tw] Re: tiddlyweb latest

2009-02-09 Thread EduardWagner
On 9 Feb., 18:06, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: Once again you prove to be an invaluable help, Eduard (even though I'm starting to wish we would just disallow renaming... ). I'm pleased to hear that. My team loves (or hates) me, because i do the final testings on our own systems. 'don't give it

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-02-05 Thread Oveek Mallik
Your points about revisions, and size not being a major factor, are well taken. I think the best is to write a cleansing script.  Which just removes the older revisions.  (What happens in the python if there is only a file named 6, but no 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5?... Also what's the next revision's

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-02-05 Thread Oveek Mallik
On Feb 4, 1:37 am, cd...@peermore.com chris.d...@gmail.com wrote: (As an aside is it getting to the point where we should have atiddlywebgoogle group?) I think the only downside to that is lower TiddlyWeb exposure to the general TiddlyWiki user population that browses this group. I

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-02-05 Thread FND
it's more the idea that bothers me. If I have a long tiddler, like maybe a 1,000 words or more, and I fix a typo, the idea that all 1,000 words are saved again for the sake of one correction bugs me a bit. So my hang up is with making many small changes to large tiddlers. I can relate.

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-02-03 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 2, 10:27 am, Oveek Mallik mov...@gmail.com wrote: I won't comment too much on what's been said, but I really like the concept oftiddlyweb, and so far I think the implementation is very nice. I do like the decision of making concrete bags/folders where tiddlers are stored as

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-02-03 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 2, 10:54 am, Reenen Laurie rlau...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best is to write a cleansing script.  Which just removes the older revisions.  (What happens in the python if there is only a file named 6, but no 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5?... Also what's the next revision's name?) If there's

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-02-02 Thread Oveek Mallik
I've been experimenting with tiddlyweb, and found this thread really useful to get me going. I won't comment too much on what's been said, but I really like the concept of tiddlyweb, and so far I think the implementation is very nice. I do like the decision of making concrete bags/folders where

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-02-02 Thread Reenen Laurie
I think the best is to write a cleansing script. Which just removes the older revisions. (What happens in the python if there is only a file named 6, but no 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5?... Also what's the next revision's name?) Also, the way I understand the design choice was, that hard drive space is not

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-21 Thread EduardWagner
There was a small bug in TiddlyWeb's ETag handling. Chris has fixed this and released v0.9.7:      http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/dist/CHANGES Hi, updated to version 0.9.7 now and the problem is solved, but we have some tiddlers including brackets within tiddlernames (...) and there we get

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-21 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jan 21, 8:53 am, EduardWagner ugligats...@googlemail.com wrote: we have some tiddlers including brackets within tiddlernames (...) and there we get futher the message Error Saving tiddler.title Precondition Failed please let me know if there are some restrictions for using special

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-21 Thread cd...@peermore.com
There's a lot to comment on in this thread, and I hope to when I have a gap, but wanted to hit some high points in here. See within: On Jan 21, 2:02 am, ccahua cca...@gmail.com wrote: I copied the TiddlyWebConfig from the system bag into 2 test bags: foo and bar Then I changed

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-21 Thread FND
There seems to be some confusion WRT workspaces/bags/recipes, so I'll try to clear that up (I hope I'm not missing the point here though... ): The basic unit is the tiddler. Each individual tiddler has a workspace (in TiddlyWeb terms, that translates to a certain bag or recipe) associated with

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-21 Thread FND
To get it to go somewhere else its server.workspace needs to changed to something else. I think FND has a plugin that can do this. There's the TiddlyWebTiddlerSourcePlugin: http://tinyurl.com/7d7l53

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-21 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jan 20, 10:43 pm, EduardWagner ugligats...@googlemail.com wrote: The key question from myself is: what was the reason for the bag- concept in filesystems? From a real real green green user opinion the concept with extented tiddler fields and tags would have been more of a meta description

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-21 Thread FND
So there are two separate pieces of functionality which are desired, which are orthogonal Oh, I absolutely agree. Since we haven't really experimented with the unplugged experience much yet, I figured in this case the renaming thing was what's relevant. -- F.

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread FND
OK, we updated to version 0.9.6 and now we don't have the mentioned problems with saving any more Happy to hear that! I installed the TiddlyWebAutoSavePlugin Actually, the TiddlyWebAutoSavePlugin should be obsolete by now, replaced by the ServerSideSavingPlugin (and, to some extent,

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread FND
I can confirm this. I thought we had addressed this issue, but it seems it's not resolved entirely. There was a small bug in TiddlyWeb's ETag handling. Chris has fixed this and released v0.9.7: http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/dist/CHANGES -- F.

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread ccahua
On Jan 20, 9:49 am, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: I can confirm this. I thought we had addressed this issue, but it seems it's not resolved entirely. There was a small bug in TiddlyWeb's ETag handling. Chris has fixed this and released v0.9.7:      http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/dist/CHANGES

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread ccahua
On Jan 20, 12:00 pm, ccahua cca...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 20, 9:49 am, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: Do I add this custom line (server.workspace: bags/myBag) in TiddlyWebConfig/config.defaultCustomFields for every new bag? or do I add new set of config.defaultCustomFields witht the custom line?

[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread EduardWagner
Actually, the TiddlyWebAutoSavePlugin should be obsolete by now, replaced by the ServerSideSavingPlugin (and, to some extent, TiddlyWebConfig). Hi, we actually use the listboxplugin from tiddlytools and after changing a listboxvalue the tiddlers are only saved immediately when the