[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-25 Thread TonyM
Folks, Without trawling through the thread again. I was wondering if the following feature of a Served TiddlyWiki would overcome the SEO issue see https://tiddlywiki.com/#Using%20the%20read-only%20single%20tiddler%20view copied below The thing is if key read-only single tiddler views was

Re: [tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-17 Thread Arlen Beiler
Having the static landing pages is an awesome idea if TiddlyWiki doesn't play well with Google, because it has the added benefit of being able to async'ly load the core javascript (if served as a separate file) putting it in the browser cache before the user gets to the page where it's needed

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-16 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thank you for doing these tests Thomas. I appreciate it a lot. Its important to know the optimal Google orientated strategy. Tschüss Josiah On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 23:01:39 UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote: > > Hello TW-Googlers, > > My first experiment failed, just activating URL changes in

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-09 Thread TonyM
Thomas Thanks so much for undertaking this analysis. I look forward to the outcomes. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-09 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Archizona, let’s see what Google does in my test. Personally I don’t think this should make a difference, both types of parmeters can change what a user sees – and this is what matters for Google too. Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2019 19:45:44 UTC+1 schrieb Archizona V: > > Thomas, can we change

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-09 Thread Archizona V
Thomas, can we change #tiddlername to ?tiddlername view? Google don't like # in Url? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-09 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Testing this out. Right. What to add on meta etc? interests me a lot. I do want to transfer www.weyersberg.ws to TW and update it. But it has v. good ranking on Google. I'm nervous about going fully TW and losing the ranking. How can we best assist Google robots index TW correctly? Josiah

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-09 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Google (better than other search engines) is very well able to index JS generated content. [1] It would be interesting to test different settings for TW URL generation and browser history manipulation. My guess is, that appending #tiddlernames to internal links and actually use/insert them in

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-09 Thread Siniy-Kit
Tony, Tiddlywiki is AJAX site (if I understand, what I say:) Like all AJAX sites, It generates its content by javascript on clients side. Google and all other searching sites can index only final html code (WordPress generates it on server side and gives result to client) , they are not able

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-08 Thread TonyM
Post Script, Actually I think we need to also Generate generate a XML Sitemap from our Wiki to point to the static pages. *XML sitemaps* *Main article: Sitemaps * *Google introduced the Sitemaps protocol

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-08 Thread TonyM
h0p3, Your way may be one way to look at Google, but when I put myself in their shoes, especially with search engine Optimisation, I just cant subscribe to your cynical view, although I do understand how the profit motive impacts what they do. The key problem for TiddlyWiki in this space is

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread h0p3
* https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/MhVsFURHpoM * https://philosopher.life/#2019.01.01%20-%20TWGGF%3A%20Google's%20Incentives I've waited a while to respond to this. I might as well join. Imho, Google's indexing isn't just poor for https://tiddlywiki.com/ but for all TWs. I

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread Siniy-Kit
I see TW 6.0.0 in this way. I open TiddlyDesktop , press "add new tiddler" and write "Tiddlywiki is the best CMS for static sites!" and then close TiddlyDesktop. Next day I open Google and write "Tiddlywiki is the best CMS for static sites!" and see my site heeg.ru on the *first

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Tony M. Great reply. Thanks. Complex but doable. The problem is ... 1 -- HOW will Siniy-Kit get his dynamic shops known? 2 -- The route of having to go static first does NOT look optimal between one-more-click and "don't bother". Just impressions Josiah On Monday, 7 January 2019 13:42:42

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Josiah, Imagin you have a fantastic tiddlywiki, all its bells and whistles, it is served or single file and you put it up on the internet. The search engins dont load your wiki just the files they can see. They missout on seeing what an interactive user sees. A bach export of all html that an

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
TonyM wrote: > > ... static sites which I believe are the key to improving tiddlywiki > appearence in search results. > It would be far better to put effort into getting JS rich TW "sites" (single page) better indexed. The idea you make a TW and then have to make another another "static"

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Siniy, You are not talking to yourself. I belive I understand your concerns. Something similar was raised recently. I have not worked with static sites which I believe are the key to improving tiddlywiki appearence in search results. It seems to me nessasary for implementations that demand a

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Not me. I hear you. Its part of the general problem of The Great Solution NO ONE CAN FIND in a working form :-) Siniy-Kit wrote: > > Nobody understand me, and i continue talking with myself :) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread Siniy-Kit
Nobody understand me, and i continue talking with myself :) I want to see new webDAV (or ftp auto synchronization by TiddlyDesktop) *multipage* Tiddlywiki CMS 6.0.0 so we need all Tiddlywiki plugins, TOC, $tw.modal.display, $tw.wiki.addTiddler, $tw.notifier.display and *SEARCH *in ALL