Re: [time-nuts] DMTD mixer question

2008-12-26 Thread Hal Murray
> >>At least a couple of us have the Spartan 3E board. > > Is the ISE evaluation software time limited? > No, but there isn't any support and it doesn't work on the big/ > expensive chips. I got confused and/or that's misleading. Let me try again. Xilinx has 2 basic software packages: ISE and

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD mixer question

2008-12-26 Thread Hal Murray
>>At least a couple of us have the Spartan 3E board. > Is the ISE evaluation software time limited? No, but there isn't any support and it doesn't work on the big/expensive chips. You can search their web site. Many bugs/glitches that get processed through their support system (and are bugs r

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD mixer question

2008-12-26 Thread Matt Osborn
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:54:48 +1300, Bruce Griffiths wrote: >At least a couple of us have the Spartan 3E board. Is the ISE evaluation software time limited? -- kc0ukk at msosborn dot com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe,

[time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread Mark Sims
Another possible thing to try is one of the Miller integrator chips that Tektronix used in their scopes and time base modules. I seem to remember that at least one could yield 0.01% linearity. The 5Bxx and 7Bxx modules for the 5000 and 7000 series scopes are available in vast quantities, oft

Re: [time-nuts] Request for MC598X4 and Datum LPRO datasheet

2008-12-26 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, The LPRO manual has a circuit mistake on page 16. The north end of R145 should go to +17V, not the resistor junction. It may make a difference when interfacing the unit. Seasons Greetings Neville Michie On 27/12/2008, at 12:06 PM, Didier wrote: > Go to http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/search.pl

Re: [time-nuts] Sub Pico Second Phase logger

2008-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Pete Another very useful thing to do is to measure the output noise spectrum at the of mixer port both with capacitive termination and with a diplexer. You can do this with your PC sound card system (even the motherboard one) and a low noise preamp. If you want a simple low noise preamp circuit I

Re: [time-nuts] Sub Pico Second Phase logger

2008-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Pete Pete wrote: > Joe, > > I have been following this thread from the start & learned a lot from it. > > Thanks to you and Bruce for the insights. > > I thought I would take a look at a simple, passive approach, just to > see what happens. I also limited my attention to stable 5 or 10 MHz > sourc

Re: [time-nuts] Request for MC598X4 and Datum LPRO datasheet

2008-12-26 Thread Daniel Mendes
Thank you Didier! Now I just need to find out how to power the MC598X4... Daniel Go to http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/search.pl And enter lpro in the Search box Didier KO4BB > > -Original Message- > > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > > [mailto:time-nut

Re: [time-nuts] Sub Pico Second Phase logger

2008-12-26 Thread Pete
Joe, I have been following this thread from the start & learned a lot from it. Thanks to you and Bruce for the insights. I thought I would take a look at a simple, passive approach, just to see what happens. I also limited my attention to stable 5 or 10 MHz sources & observation windows of <100s

Re: [time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Bruce, Thank You for posting a proper TAC, I'll give your circuit a try so I improve my education in interpolator design before sharing any further work with this list. Richard > Richard > > The attached circuit illustrates how to construct a simple high > linearity ramp TAC. > The circuit has

Re: [time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Richard The attached circuit illustrates how to construct a simple high linearity ramp TAC. The circuit has been used in various guises for decades. The latest incarnations use ultra high speed IC processes to integrate all components on chip to minimise interconnection inductances and achieve sub

Re: [time-nuts] Request for MC598X4 and Datum LPRO datasheet

2008-12-26 Thread Didier
Go to http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/search.pl And enter lpro in the Search box Didier KO4BB > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Mendes > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 3:04 PM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject

[time-nuts] Leap-second happens when...??

2008-12-26 Thread Mark Sims
If Lady Heather (Queen Mistress of the well disciplined oscillator) inserts the leap second it WILL hurt... and you WILL like it... - I must have missed something... I have known about the coming leap-second for months, but have not heard when it was going to be inserted. When will

Re: [time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Richard Richard H McCorkle wrote: > Bruce, > > Thank you for your critical evaluation of the interpolator circuitry. > I have no doubt that further improvements to the design are possible > and hope to inspire other amateurs on the list to come up with an > improved interpolator design. The circui

Re: [time-nuts] Leap-second happens when...??

2008-12-26 Thread Hal Murray
> I must have missed something... I have known about the coming > leap-second for months, but have not heard when it was going to be > inserted. They try to do it at the end of the year. Second choice is the end of June. http://tf.nist.gov/pubs/bulletin/leapsecond.htm For me, PST, UTC midn

[time-nuts] Leap-second happens when...??

2008-12-26 Thread Michael Baker
Hello, Time-Nutters-- I must have missed something... I have known about the coming leap-second for months, but have not heard when it was going to be inserted. When will the leap-second take place? Will it hurt? Am I going to need a band-aid? Or just another rum-laced egg-nog...?? Thanks!

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Haven't had a chance to do that yet, but I looked at my NTP statistics and my server driven by WWVB did lose lock earlier today, though looking at the longer term data doesn't show any other losses in the last few weeks. Check out http://www.febo.com/time-freq/ntp/stats/ and look for the toe.febo.

Re: [time-nuts] Sub Pico Second Phase logger

2008-12-26 Thread Joe Gwinn
Bruce, At 10:16 PM + 12/23/08, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:47:21 +1300 >From: Bruce Griffiths >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sub Pico Second Phase logger >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > >[snip] > > > Us

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Greg Burnett
According to the link (that Brent provided), there were WWVB outages on Dec 3, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 24, 26. I'm not sure if all those were actual outages or only loss of published data for some other reason? I do know that I've had a lot of WWVB tracking problems this past month. ...

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Brent Gordon
You're welcome Greg. I'm glad I could post something useful to this list. I was exploring the WWVB website last night and discovered the page that lets you see WWVB reception in different parts of the country. For anyone interested, here's the gateway page that lets you see reception in Bould

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Greg Burnett
Good suggestion. ...And, as an enhancement to your suggestion, the start and stop times of the outage could be recorded to a spare computer or something. Greg - Original Message - From: "Majdi S. Abbas" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, December

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Greg Burnett
Aha! Thanks Brent for that link! I wasn't aware that NIST had added that feature. Thanks again! Greg - Original Message - From: "Brent Gordon" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 01:08:18PM -0700, Greg Burnett wrote: > In my case, the Kinemetrics 60TF's "Unlock" alarm is *not* latching. > Therefore you have to be there, to catch the problem "in the act". ...Or > else run continuous plots. You could modify the receiver and use an SCR or som

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Brent Gordon
Your outage matches what NIST shows: http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/wwvbgraph_e.cgi?5482602 Brent Tom Van Baak wrote: > Greg, > > It happens now and then; no big deal. NIST is very good about > logging these events for us. For recent (and past 7 years) see: > > http://tf.nist.gov/stations/wwvboutages.

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Greg Burnett
Thanks for the link, Tom. That's the same link that Michael Lombardi gave me a number of years ago. The issues I have with that NIST data is that, 1), it's not updated in realtime, e.g., I can't see today's events; and, 2), it only records outages lasting 5 minutes or longer. In the past few yea

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Greg Burnett
John, If it's not too much trouble, could you temporarily disconnect antenna, confirm the alarm, then reconnect antenna to see if the alarm remains latched or goes away. In my case, the Kinemetrics 60TF's "Unlock" alarm is *not* latching. Therefore you have to be there, to catch the problem "i

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
Greg, It happens now and then; no big deal. NIST is very good about logging these events for us. For recent (and past 7 years) see: http://tf.nist.gov/stations/wwvboutages.htm /tvb > Have any of you noticed intermittent WWVB outages lately? > > I've been having that problem, every once in a wh

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I don't see any alarm LEDs on my Spectracom WWVB receivers (one a WWVB-DO, the other a clock), but I'm not sure that their "unlock" LEDs latch, or that the "error" LEDs trip on loss of lock. John Greg Burnett said the following on 12/26/2008 02:50 PM: > Have any of you noticed intermittent W

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Greg Burnett
I forgot to mention: When on-the-air, WWVB produces a nice, clean signal, at -51 dBm (at the higher of it's two shifted amplitudes) as output from my Kinemetrics active antenna (and measured by both a HP 3586C in 20Hz BW and a HP 3585A in 30Hz BW), here in Colorado Springs. When the WWVB signal

[time-nuts] Request for MC598X4 and Datum LPRO datasheet

2008-12-26 Thread Daniel Mendes
Hy, my name is Daniel, I lurk at this list trying to learn something with the masters of time measurements :) I´ve bought two MC598X4 from Ebay. Does someone have a datasheet for them? Or at least the pinouts... I´ve bought also an Datum LPRO 102500-001 but the datasheet is no more available at

[time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread Greg Burnett
Have any of you noticed intermittent WWVB outages lately? I've been having that problem, every once in a while, the past month or more. For example, here in Colorado Springs, the 60 kHz signal disappeared sometime this morning before 11:42AM MST, and returned at 12:28PM MST. When this happens i

Re: [time-nuts] Real-time Timestamp with Richard's PICTIC?

2008-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Tom The design needs some rework to achieve useful performance. Apart from the interpolator problems, you will need to use a different microprocessor (suitable PIC and AVR micros are available). A microprocessor which allows the value of an internal counter to be sampled on the transition of an ex

[time-nuts] Real-time Timestamp with Richard's PICTIC?

2008-12-26 Thread Tom Bales
At 07:00 AM 12/26/2008, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: >Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to > time-nuts@febo.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >or, via email, send a message with subje

Re: [time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread J. L. Trantham
Richard, Thank you for the gift. It looks like an interesting project and worthy of a time-nut novice like myself. I will add it to my list of 'to-do's'. And thank you to all on the list for their very interesting discussions and renewing my interests in electronics in the past year. Merry Chr

Re: [time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Richard H McCorkle wrote: > >> Ho Ho Ho >> >> Merry Christmas from the far north to all the >> Time-Nuts. As a gift for the holidays I have >> created a free version of the PICTIC for you >> and Didier has kindly posted the files at: >> >> http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/d

[time-nuts] PPS from Samsung GCRU

2008-12-26 Thread Mark Stephens
Just wanted to bounce some thoughts off the group: I have a Samsung GCRU and I need to permanently tap the 1PPS signal. Can the PPS output of the GPS RX be used without interfering with the accuracy of the unit? Is there is another PPS output, preferably buffered and in phase from the GCRU?

Re: [time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Richard H McCorkle wrote: > Ho Ho Ho > > Merry Christmas from the far north to all the > Time-Nuts. As a gift for the holidays I have > created a free version of the PICTIC for you > and Didier has kindly posted the files at: > > http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:pictic > >

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Disciplined Oscillator (Thunderbolt) Software

2008-12-26 Thread Javier Herrero
Oh, she was THAT Lady Heather? ;) Regards, Javier Brooke Clarke escribió: > Hi Norman: > > For more on Lady Heather, see: > > Lady Heather's Box > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0534712/ > > Melinda Clarke (related?) > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164918/ > > Have Fun, > > Brooke Clarke > http://www

[time-nuts] Happy Holidays

2008-12-26 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas from the far north to all the Time-Nuts. As a gift for the holidays I have created a free version of the PICTIC for you and Didier has kindly posted the files at: http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:pictic And to all a good night, Richard _