[time-nuts] 747 Chronometer

2009-05-20 Thread Charles Rushing
Greetings To All, Please accept my apologies in advance if this is off-topic. I have just acquired an aircraft clock, which I've tentatively identified as coming from a Boeing 747. It's way cool looking and would make a perfect dust collector in my ham shack if I could only power it up. T

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: 10 Volt L1 & L2 GPS Antenna

2009-05-20 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Glenn: Yes, I've thought about doing that, but then priced a small Pomona box at $50 and thought just getting the proper antenna would be easier and not that much more money. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: You could put a regulator on the voltag

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: 10 Volt L1 & L2 GPS Antenna

2009-05-20 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
You could put a regulator on the voltage line for the antenna so that you could use a 5 Volt antenna. This would get you away from the specific voltage requirements for their antenna. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 09:54 PM 5/20/2009, you wrote: Hi: I just got an Ashtech Z-12-R Reference Station and i

[time-nuts] WTB: 10 Volt L1 & L2 GPS Antenna

2009-05-20 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: I just got an Ashtech Z-12-R Reference Station and it needs the subject antenna. http://www.prc68.com/I/AshtechZ12.shtml I've got a bunch of GPS antennas but none with the needed combination of features. It would be good to learn which antennas are 10 Volt types. For example is the Tr

[time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Sims
I have done quite a bit of work replacing fans in old equipment with modern fans. I have never seen a case where replacing a hurricane level fan with a whisper quiet fan made any real difference in the cooling inside the unit... typically one sees less than +/- 5C difference anywhere inside t

Re: [time-nuts] garmin 18 lvc versus garmin 18x lvc with pps & ntp

2009-05-20 Thread Hal Murray
folk...@vanheusden.com said: > Could not find any help anywhere on the web so you guys are my last > hope. I have 2 computers running a linux PPS enabled kernel and ntp. > One of the two has a garmin 18 lvc, one has a garmin 18x lvc. You will probably get better help with NTP related issues from

[time-nuts] garmin 18 lvc versus garmin 18x lvc with pps & ntp

2009-05-20 Thread Folkert van Heusden
Hi, Could not find any help anywhere on the web so you guys are my last hope. I have 2 computers running a linux PPS enabled kernel and ntp. One of the two has a garmin 18 lvc, one has a garmin 18x lvc. The one with the 18 lvc is neatly synced: remote refid st t when poll reac

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-20 Thread Pete Lancashire
When I have been concerned with 'stealing' power, I have used a switching power supply wall wart. Small and are usually quite efficient. One model a Sony (branded), the chip inside even had a opto isolated control pin so it could be turned on/off via logic. -pete > > > Yes, I have replaced the

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-20 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/20/09 9:18 AM, "Roy Phillips" wrote: > Mark > Thanks for your comments. I suspect that there was a period when the "Papst" > fan was the de facto standard in many equipments, it has considerable depth > and obviously moves a lot of air. There is no real correlation between noise level an

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 58, Issue 46

2009-05-20 Thread f5bqp_pfm
Hi John and the group, Yes you're right modifying the airflow of these old mummies isn't a good idea, their "life" and reliability will be reduced drastically. Thanks for the paper you pointed to on Greenhall, I'll read very carefully to it. It would have been good to be able to do Allan de

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-20 Thread Pete
The fan in the 5370x & other counters is bolted directly to the chassis. I've found that it can be isolated by rubber grommets from the chassis yielding a significant reduction in noise. Some adhesive backed foam (weather-stripping) is needed around the chassis opening to seal up the bypass path

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-20 Thread Roy Phillips
Mark Thanks for your comments. I suspect that there was a period when the "Papst" fan was the de facto standard in many equipments, it has considerable depth and obviously moves a lot of air. I can certainly see the need in the case of Power Supplies, I have an HP6632A which can provide 100 wat

[time-nuts] More 5370 mods...

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Sims
Some other useful mods to the 5370 (besides a quiet fan): 1) I install a tiny toggle switch on the oscillator board to disable that LED/freq detector circuit. The switch lets you re-enable it for testing, etc. 2) Drill a hole in the top cover directly above the oscillator tuning screw. This

[time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Sims
Yes, I have replaced the fans in four 5370A and 5370B counters with modern 12V brushless DC motor units connected to the 10V supply. VERY nice and quiet. I did before and after thermocouple tests in the chassis. The temperatures were basically unchanged (+/- 3C). Variances could easily ha

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A socket problem

2009-05-20 Thread Arnold Tibus
I think the problem with gold contacts for connector junctions and solder connections was already discussed a while ago. I have no experience with the mentioned 5370A problem, but I may give general remarks out of my experience on similar things. Gold is a very good but expensive material for

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-20 Thread Roy Phillips
Bruce/Magnus Thank you for your comments. Roy - Original Message - From: "Bruce Griffiths" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620 Hej Magnus One issue is that the SR620 is still

[time-nuts] 5370B yet again

2009-05-20 Thread Luis Cupido
Hi, I do have a HP5335A and after the many comments about the 5370 I'm curious if there is something I'd be better off with the 5370 instead of my 5334 I've read the specs of both but... better ask the experts ;-) Luis Cupido. ct1dmk. ___ time-nuts m

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 58, Issue 45

2009-05-20 Thread f5bqp_pfm
Hello Roy, Yes these fans from these old mummies are really too noisy. I've several counters: two EIP 578, this 5370B and an ADVANTEST 5372P, the quietest is really the ADVANTEST. I've also a bunch of other T&M intruments and it's impossible to have all of these up and running. Really too noisy

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 58, Issue 45

2009-05-20 Thread f5bqp_pfm
Hi Ulrich, Yes I'm frenchy but I use an NI USB/GPIB adaptor I've since a while, not this exotic ALCIOM... Best 73's pf, F5BQP Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:07:26 +0200 From: "Ulrich Bangert" Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequen

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-20 Thread John Miles
> Has anybody tried to replace these > fans with a > more modern type (12/24 volt). I'm sure the designers were being very > proper, but I cannot believe that a counter should require such a large > volume of air moving through it ? > I have an EIP 545 Counter and > an HP 5335A > which both have Pa

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-20 Thread Rob Kimberley
I don't know this product, but from my past experience if it has a split primary transformer for switching between 115 and 230 VAC, check to see if fan is 115VAC. If it is and you run unit on 230VAC, the fan can cause increased residual noise due to the imbalance. Better to use a 230 VAC fan if run

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-20 Thread Henk
Hello, The Wavecrest DTS uses a large airflow to keep temperature >differences< small enough for low tempco in the interpolators. This can also be the case for the hp5370, thus be carefull. henk > Hello Pierre-François > A point of personal interest in your email - - The noise of the fan in >

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-20 Thread Roy Phillips
Hello Pierre-François A point of personal interest in your email - - The noise of the fan in the 5070B, this would appear to be a problem with a number of the older items of Hewlett Packard, and other manufacturers. The items are usually fitted with a Papst fan,with a high throughput of air

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-20 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Pf, > I've on a > dedicated PC (XP) a GPIB/USB adapter for this application. > Could you tell me which sw I could use to do this? since you own a French callsign chances are that you are talking about the SMART488 from ALCIOM. In this case I have no help available. Should you however talk abou

[time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-20 Thread f5bqp_pfm
Hi The Gang, I've revitalized my 5070B I got few years ago and since a week or two it has seen again passing into it few electrons after so long... lol... Now I'm wondering which software I could use to grab data from it to the PC and then to analyze the buffers to see the stability of my rubidi

[time-nuts] EZGPIB

2009-05-20 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gentlemen, a new version of EZGPIB is available for download at http://www.ulrich-bangert.de/html/downloads.html which includes a MRU file list and a print option for the source editor window that makes use of the color syntax highlighting. Have fun Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Orthol

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A socket problem

2009-05-20 Thread Ulrich Bangert
> For a cheap (slightly)longer term fix, wipe the IC pins > with a swab moistened with WD40! BALLISTOL is also recommended for that job. Best regards Ulrich Bangert > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Rober