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2009-06-30 Thread David Hilton-Jones
I am not very much interested in how it is achieved, but wonder if a 10MHz oscillator locked to GPS is now available as plugplay rather than needing a lot of time/effort/building. I note the Thunderbolt units available from the Far East on ebay for~£80gbp. Are these really PP - that is, just

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2009-06-30 Thread David C. Partridge
Yes the Thunderbold truly is plug and play. In holdover of course the Rb will be more stable ... The RS-232 connection also lets you see if it has achieved GPS lock - you can't tell without something that talks to the RS-232 interface. Dave -Original Message- From:

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2009-06-30 Thread J. L. Trantham
The Z3816A and Z3801A are plug and play with 4 LED status lights on the front panel including GPS Lock. I have the Thunderbolt and a Z3816A and find being able to review the information on the computer is very helpful including looking for satellite tracking loss, open or shorter antenna

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 59, Issue 97

2009-06-30 Thread Dave Baxter
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[time-nuts] manual for a Spectracom 9161 ?

2009-06-30 Thread Pete Lancashire
I'm sorting through the junk I have been bringing home and have a Spectracom 1961 w/o its antenna, and it does blows its fuse when plugged in. -pete ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject)

2009-06-30 Thread Mark Sims
There is one thing that make most GPSDOs not quite plug and play... that is their need to know their location rather precisely. They do this with a self survey mechanism. The self survey can take several hours. Most units can trigger this automatically if their location changes more than a

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2009-06-30 Thread David Hilton-Jones
Many thanks Mark. I was thinking of setting up in a fixed position and leaving on permanently. But then if there's a power cut? Do you know if the China supplier is OK? Or any source in the UK of Thunderbolt? David Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com 30/06/09 17:48 There is one thing that make

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2009-06-30 Thread Robert Darlington
I have my equipment attached to a rather large (100+ pounds) UPS device in case of a power outage. It'll run a Thunderbolt for a week I'd suspect. I've purchased several items from fluke.l (that's an L not a one) on eBay with good results every time. The only problem I ever had was just this

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2009-06-30 Thread Hal Murray
I am not very much interested in how it is achieved, but wonder if a 10MHz oscillator locked to GPS is now available as plugplay rather than needing a lot of time/effort/building. I note the Thunderbolt units available from the Far East on ebay for~£80gbp. Are these really PP - that is,

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2009-06-30 Thread Lester Veenstra
I suggest you try The RF Connection for adapters: NM/FF N(M)/F(F) 3.00 http://therfc.com/ Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM les...@veenstras.com m0...@veenstras.com k1...@veenstras.com US Postal Address: PSC 45 Box 781 APO AE 09468 USA UK Postal Address: Dawn Cottage Norwood, Harrogate

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2009-06-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
For really good adapters, I've had good luck with S.M. Electronics (http://www.smelectronicsllc.com). They are pricey -- like $24-$36 each for 18 GHz stainless N-to-something adapters, but I think on the whole cheaper than Pasternack, and they often stock several grades (with specified

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2009-06-30 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:40 AM To: les...@veenstras.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Plug and play

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2009-06-30 Thread Robert Darlington
eBay. 12 bucks for 4 including shipping :) -Bob On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Lester Veenstra m0...@veenstras.comwrote: I suggest you try The RF Connection for adapters: NM/FF N(M)/F(F) 3.00 http://therfc.com/ Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM les...@veenstras.com

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2009-06-30 Thread dave powis
Hi David, I don't know the Chinese ones, but I was lucky enough to get one of the TAPR offer TBolts - and it really was PP - yes, I attached a PC and used the TBolt monitoring utility to confirm it was all working OK, but that was all. It now sits in my shack outputing 10MHz very nicely. 73,

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2009-06-30 Thread bg
There is one thing that make most GPSDOs not quite plug and play... that is their need to know their location rather precisely. Yes, it's helpful on the way to perfection. Is it a requirement for the OPs level of ambition? I think not. I wonder if the long self-survey procedure is an

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2009-06-30 Thread Mark Sims
Yes, you can just leave the unit running without much problem, but what works really well is to use an old laptop as a permanent monitoring device. You can get them for around 20 bucks... Lady Heather was created for Thunderbolt just such a situation. Much more entertaining and

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2009-06-30 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:32 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject) Yes, you can just leave the unit running

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2009-06-30 Thread Mark Sims
The main reason for manually doing the self-survey and saving the results is so that the unit won't spend hours doing it every time it powers up. It's a one time thing and well worth the trouble. Every foot of position error can introduce a nanosecond of offset in the timing results.

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2009-06-30 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 30/06/2009 22:38:35 GMT Daylight Time, james.p@jpl.nasa.gov writes: Even better would be some ambitious amateur programming one of the little LCD+microcontroller widgets to make a display. Probably not worth it, dollar wise, but might be nice, especially for a

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2009-06-30 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of gandal...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:48 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject) - Something like this by any

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt plug and play

2009-06-30 Thread Keith G Malcolm
Hello David, I'm a complete beginner in this field, but after a lot of reading and following these threads, I finally bought a Tbolt from China via e-bay. Arrived in just under a week by post, plugged it in to power and antenna and got 10 MHz output. I eventually connected a lap-top PC via

[time-nuts] Google Patent Search is Broken

2009-06-30 Thread Mike Monett
The Google patent search is a very useful for studying GPS technology, precision oscillators, etc. It has been extremely reliable in the past, but today it started giving an error message after downloading only 5 patents. The error message is: Google Error

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2009-06-30 Thread John Allen
This seller in CA is selling for $120 or less. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160331810845 John, K1AE 1.8 MHz - 10 GHz. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of dave powis Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:59 PM