[time-nuts] Slow death of Waas 48

2010-07-07 Thread Said Jackson
Hi guys, Waas sat 48 (prn 135) is still going strong, much longer than originally forecasted - it is experiencing a complete avionics failure as you may know. Has anyone set up tests to see how it's eventual demise may affect timing accuracy? One of our FireFly-1A boards can be monitored in

Re: [time-nuts] Slow death of Waas 48

2010-07-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/07/2010 08:11 AM, Said Jackson wrote: Hi guys, Waas sat 48 (prn 135) is still going strong, much longer than originally forecasted - it is experiencing a complete avionics failure as you may know. Has anyone set up tests to see how it's eventual demise may affect timing accuracy? One

Re: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child - It Lives!

2010-07-07 Thread Didier Juges
Congratulations Joe!!! Didier -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. L. Trantham Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:44 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem

Re: [time-nuts] Pic programing for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The closest thing I could find were the side adjust parts. They also have flat on the board parts and 3/8 squares. No sign of top adjust 1/4 parts Bob On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:09 AM, Ed Palmer wrote: It looks like there's still a problem with the trimmers. R17 and R22 are shown as

[time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Lester Veenstra
Has the Mouser list: https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=c7ada9ced0 Been updated with the right trimmers, or is right still up in the air? Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM les...@veenstras.com m0...@veenstras.com k1...@veenstras.com   US Postal Address: PSC 45 Box

Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Bownes
It has not been updated yet. We're still looking for a good replacement. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Lester Veenstra les...@veenstras.com wrote: Has the Mouser list: https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=c7ada9ced0 Been updated with the right trimmers, or is

Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Bownes
Not right this sec. Give us a few hours. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Lester Veenstra les...@veenstras.com wrote: So now would not be a good time to execute a Mouser Project buy. Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM les...@veenstras.com m0...@veenstras.com k1...@veenstras.com US Postal

Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Lester Veenstra
Q4, the FET seems to missing from the Mouser BOM. Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM les...@veenstras.com m0...@veenstras.com k1...@veenstras.com   US Postal Address: PSC 45 Box 781 APO AE 09468 USA UK Postal Address: Dawn Cottage Norwood, Harrogate HG3 1SD, UK Telephones: Office: 

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II Programmed 16f688 chips

2010-07-07 Thread Thomas A. Frank
Hi Bob; When I can buy one of those programmers that runs on the MAC OS, please let me know. I would much prefer to offer a fellow enthusiast $20 to provide a programmed chip then get involved with Windows (even if it would open the opportunity for Lady Heather...humm). I get too much

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II Programmed 16f688 chips

2010-07-07 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Google pic programming mac os turns up many links. http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.20/20.02/PICMicrocontroller/index.html http://www.1710.co.uk/cms/pics-on-mac Stanley - Original Message From: Thomas A. Frank ka2...@cox.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II Programmed 16f688 chips

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Harris
Things like MicroChip's PICStart run nicely on Linux under wine. And if you don't want to run wine, there is an open source program called PICLAB which runs directly on linux, BSD, etc... I would bet it would run under a MAC too. -Chuck Harris Stanley Reynolds wrote: Google pic programming

Re: [time-nuts] Slow death of Waas 48

2010-07-07 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Magnus, Just read up on their website, they cannot disable the WAAS signal because it would disable all GPS WAAS landing approaches in the USA. A very big deal. When it fails, they will be landing aircraft with only one GPS bird for a while, and no backup! So it will continue to

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II Programmed 16f688 chips

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Darlington
I would be very happy to provide PIC chips and programming service to anybody in the continental USA. How about we do this for $10.00 shipped for the first chip, and $2.50 per chip after that. Email me privately (rdarling...@gmail.com) if you're interested. I'll stop taking names next Tuesday

Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II Programmed 16f688 chips

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The hardware for just about any of them will run fine under OS-X. The software is not available as OS-X native program. The simple answers would be to run it under Boot Camp or in a Vmware shell. Neither one is really a Mac solution to the problem though, since you are running Windows on

[time-nuts] GPS Common View

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I just got through poking at a couple of TBolts with Lady Heather. It appears that you can indeed get the hardware and software to put the TBolt into single satellite mode. That may enable a pretty simple GPS common view setup. One way to do it: Somebody picks a set of sats and times

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Common View

2010-07-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/08/2010 12:49 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi I just got through poking at a couple of TBolts with Lady Heather. It appears that you can indeed get the hardware and software to put the TBolt into single satellite mode. That may enable a pretty simple GPS common view setup. One way to do it:

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Common View

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Oddly enough I happen to be set up to do 6 common view sats Bob On Jul 7, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 07/08/2010 12:49 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi I just got through poking at a couple of TBolts with Lady Heather. It appears that you can indeed get the hardware and

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Common View

2010-07-07 Thread jimlux
Bob Camp wrote: Hi I just got through poking at a couple of TBolts with Lady Heather. It appears that you can indeed get the hardware and software to put the TBolt into single satellite mode. That may enable a pretty simple GPS common view setup. One way to do it: Somebody picks a set of

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Common View

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi From a quick look it's not real clear how you would go about extracting time from the software suite. It's certainly useful for navigation though. A secondary gotcha is that the TBolt likely has some internal issues that distort the data a bit. Running a TBolt on both ends should wash out

Re: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child - It Lives!

2010-07-07 Thread paul swed
Completely agree congrats and thanks for the update. I may be getting back involved with my 5061a soon now that I have a HP pico/femto amp meter. By golly I will go hunting for the elusive I beam current ghost directly off the tube or at least learn that I can't. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:29 AM,

[time-nuts] Auto TBolt TC Adjust

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi From looking at the numbers on a set of TBolt's it's apparent that adjusting the time constant after they have been on power for a while is a good idea. Something like: Start at 10 seconds until pps is within 10 ns for 5 minutes Run at 50 seconds until the same condition is met Bump to 200

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Common View

2010-07-07 Thread jimlux
Bob Camp wrote: Hi From a quick look it's not real clear how you would go about extracting time from the software suite. It's certainly useful for navigation though. A secondary gotcha is that the TBolt likely has some internal issues that distort the data a bit. Running a TBolt on both

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Common View

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi NIST publishes data on a per satellite basis as well. WIth all of these the big question will be weather the data is in fine enough buckets to be useful. I know that back when we had a NIST time transfer modem that they indeed had all the data to make it work. At least at that time the

Re: [time-nuts] Auto TBolt TC Adjust

2010-07-07 Thread Didier Juges
That could be done easily with my GPSMon project, just add code :) The project decodes the TSIP binary format, so it would not be so hard to decode the packets you need. At the moment, the project does not talk to the TBolt, and I forgot if the Tx routines are in the code. If they are not and

Re: [time-nuts] Auto TBolt TC Adjust

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I suspect that I only need to decode one of the packets and send one of three or four specific strings. I could send them blind and hope they work, or actually confirm they took effect. Either way it should fit in a pretty small chip. Thanks! Bob On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Didier Juges

Re: [time-nuts] Auto TBolt TC Adjust

2010-07-07 Thread Didier Juges
Bob, It would be easy to start a timer when the TBolt reaches a certain state, and send specific commands after certain times, and restart the sequence if the TBolt loses lock. The processor's clock has 0.5% accuracy, which should be sufficient. There is plenty of code space left in the

Re: [time-nuts] Auto TBolt TC Adjust

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I've been watching a number of TBolt's as they stabilize. Some make it to the ready for long time constant condition pretty quickly. Others take a *long* time to get there. There may be reasons for this. If so they are not very obvious. All of the units are in the same temperature

Re: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child - It Lives!

2010-07-07 Thread J. L. Trantham
I have had a lot of fun repairing these units and I have learned a lot from the experience and from folks on the list, particularly Bert Kehren, Corby Dawson and John Miles. If you can think of a way I can help, let me know. I was able to avoid the need for a pico/femto amp meter. I probably