Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Hal Murray
>> How about the crab supernova. > Msec pulsars are much more stable - see http://arxiv.org/pdf/0911.5534 for > some comparisons. You get frequency from pulsars. I think you need something like a (super)nova to establish a start-time so you can convert frequency to time relative to that even

Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity.

2010-10-28 Thread Michael Poulos
Richard H McCorkle wrote: Time-Nuts, New members to the Time-Nuts list may wonder if the Time-Nut disease has infected them just by joining the list. A clear indication that someone has been infected with the Time-Nut disease is they own a reference that provides accurate time to better than 1us

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A Rubidium 2nd Harmonic Readings

2010-10-28 Thread John Miles
How's the photo current? Does it vary as well? If not, I don't think I'd be too worried about the physics package. I would, however, check the electrolytics on the oven controller board. You don't want an oven controller failure. -- john, KE5FX > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-b

[time-nuts] HP5065A Rubidium 2nd Harmonic Readings

2010-10-28 Thread Brian Kirby
I recently had a long term power failure and ran out of UPS time. The power was out over a day and when I returned home, it had been restored. The rubidium recovered, I hit the logic reset button and start and got the green light. I made some meter readings, and noticed something I have not

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Steve Rooke
How about some alignment of the planets that has occurred in the lifetime of the Earth but only happens infrequently on a celestial timescale. Steve On 29 October 2010 15:01, Max Robinson wrote: > I was thinking of the nova event itself as a reference point in time. > > Regards. > > Max.  K 4 O

Re: [time-nuts] Dymec manual and pictures at Ko4bbs website now

2010-10-28 Thread J. Forster
Paul, Herewith is Dave's answer: John I am not on Time nuts so pass this along Are the files TIF files.? ( suspect they are given the size) ..they can likely be converted to JPG using just about any photo editing program with a 20:1 (or more) size reduction and little loss of

[time-nuts] Dymec manual and pictures at Ko4bbs website now

2010-10-28 Thread paul swed
Sorry about the thread I resent earlier. The manual and pixs are on Diddiers site for safe keeping. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and foll

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Max Robinson
I was thinking of the nova event itself as a reference point in time. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly OT - Any interest in a vintage HP/Dymec DY-5842 VLF receiver?

2010-10-28 Thread paul swed
Sorry really blew the header on this one. Please disregard the offer. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM, J. Forster wrote: > Email d...@artekmedia.com for help in compressing the files. He sells > loads of very good manual scans. > > Best, > > -John > > == > > > > Did not upload th

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly OT - Any interest in a vintage HP/Dymec DY-5842 VLF receiver?

2010-10-28 Thread J. Forster
Email d...@artekmedia.com for help in compressing the files. He sells loads of very good manual scans. Best, -John == > Did not upload the meter face scans they are 134 MB each. > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:34 PM, paul swed wrote: > >> Paul >> Uploaded all of the information

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 EFC load question

2010-10-28 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Chris wrote: What is the current requirement for the 10811 EFC +/- 5Vdc ? Is there any advantage to having it served by batteries? Only the leakage current in the varactor, which is why Rick suggested operating with Vefc at the high end of the range. But even a mercury cell is not stable en

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly OT - Any interest in a vintage HP/Dymec DY-5842 VLF receiver?

2010-10-28 Thread paul swed
Did not upload the meter face scans they are 134 MB each. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:34 PM, paul swed wrote: > Paul > Uploaded all of the information to the Ko4bb website for safe keeping. > www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl > Regards > Paul. > > >> > __

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly OT - Any interest in a vintage HP/Dymec DY-5842 VLF receiver?

2010-10-28 Thread paul swed
Paul Uploaded all of the information to the Ko4bb website for safe keeping. www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl Regards Paul. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts a

Re: [time-nuts] SatStat Software Whereabouts

2010-10-28 Thread paul swed
http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=05)_GPS_Timing/SatStat thanks everyone On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:54 PM, wrote: > Just search for satstat > > Search is always the easiest > > Didier > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Neville, The Time of Arrival error for the millisecond pulsar J0437-4715 is about 11 nsec. This takes into account the location of the pulsar, the solar system's barycentre, the earth's (perturbed) orbit around that barycentre and not to mention the interstellar medium that the pulse has to travel

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Neville Michie
Surely astronomical events are rather rubbery. The distance between the celestial bodies is measured in Light Years, this must give uncertainties as the exact distances are varying all the time and the solution of the many bodied problem is probably chaotic, meaning that it may not be possible

[time-nuts] 10811 EFC load question

2010-10-28 Thread Chris Howard
What is the current requirement for the 10811 EFC +/- 5Vdc ? Is there any advantage to having it served by batteries? Chris w0ep ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread shalimr9
Yes, but on the other hand, he would thaw in a hurry :) Didier Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Perry Sandeen Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:51:53 To: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and freq

Re: [time-nuts] SatStat Software Whereabouts

2010-10-28 Thread shalimr9
Just search for satstat Search is always the easiest Didier Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Richard W. Solomon" Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:59:01 -0700 (GMT-07:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measureme

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Max Robinson wrote: > How about the crab supernova. > Msec pulsars are much more stable - see http://arxiv.org/pdf/0911.5534 for some comparisons. Regards Marshall > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O D S. > > Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com > > Transistor site http://ww

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 EFC control

2010-10-28 Thread Rick Karlquist
You need to understand that there is a +6.2V Zener diode reference connected to the cathode of the varactor. If you really want to minimize any perturbations of the oscillator by the tuning diode, you should operate up near +5V, so that the voltage across the varactor is minimized. Also, ideally,

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Max Robinson
How about the crab supernova. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. fun

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Max Robinson
I'm just glad this discussion isn't taking place on one of my lists. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with

[time-nuts] Brandywine GPS 4 8 Channel

2010-10-28 Thread Jim Robbins
A quick note to the group that I am listing my Brandywine GPS 4, 8 channel with power supply and antenna on *bay under number 250718307941 if anyone is interested. Thanks. Jim Robbins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

[time-nuts] 10811 EFC control

2010-10-28 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
OK, maybe if I just attach the file rather than trying to embed it? A while back, someone asked how to use the EFC on a 10811 to allow fine frequency adjustment without spoiling the inherent stability of the oscillator. I finally found a copy of the schematic for the circuit I have used with

Re: [time-nuts] Absolute time (was Time of death-Again)

2010-10-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 28, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Bill Hawkins wrote: > If a far future observer was to make any sense of a date, quite > a lot would have to be known about the culture, including how to > read its markings. > > It would be impractical to carve a map of the sky showing the > location of a stellar be

Re: [time-nuts] Absolute time (was Time of death-Again)

2010-10-28 Thread jmfranke
I would suggest using the time this thread started because time seems to be dragging on since then. John -- From: "Jean-Louis Oneto" Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:17 PM To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Subject: R

Re: [time-nuts] Absolute time (was Time of death-Again)

2010-10-28 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
Hi group, The most absolute remarkable event in our _Universe_ is the Big Bang, and it seems to be pretty well defined in time. It's rather sad that we're unable to relate this event to our usual timescales (with a better precision than several 10^9 years...!) That would make a nice "absolute z

Re: [time-nuts] SatStat Software Whereabouts

2010-10-28 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Can you let us know which folder to look in ?? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- >From: "J. L. Trantham" >Sent: Oct 26, 2010 7:03 PM >To: shali...@gmail.com, 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' > >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SatStat Software Whereabouts > >Didier,

Re: [time-nuts] Absolute time (was Time of death-Again)

2010-10-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Bill: The Mayan calendar does not stop in 2012, only the short hand year notation. It's just like when our calendar stopped at 12/31/99, i.e the next year was ZERO (aka Y2K)! See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calender http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon Have Fun, Brooke Cla

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Steve Rooke
On 29 October 2010 03:00, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:30 AM, jimlux wrote: > >> Steve Rooke wrote: >>> One thing we should bear in mind that our tombstone timestamp should >>> have things like the timezone, and calendar in use, references, such >>> that future people can dete

Re: [time-nuts] Absolute time (was Time of death-Again)

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
If a far future observer was to make any sense of a date, quite a lot would have to be known about the culture, including how to read its markings. It would be impractical to carve a map of the sky showing the location of a stellar beacon on each tombstone, and then adding some number of rotations

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Raj
T=0 could be a recent supernova for a secular short measurement span considering the life span of Earth. OR T=0 could also be a local solar system event that is easily determinable on Earth. For someone measuring events on Earth a million years from now, give or take a ppm :-) or they may not

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:30 AM, jimlux wrote: > Steve Rooke wrote: >> One thing we should bear in mind that our tombstone timestamp should >> have things like the timezone, and calendar in use, references, such >> that future people can determine the exact point in time of our death. >> In fact, bas

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread jimlux
Steve Rooke wrote: One thing we should bear in mind that our tombstone timestamp should have things like the timezone, and calendar in use, references, such that future people can determine the exact point in time of our death. In fact, basing the timestamp on some true reference point would bett

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I'm with Arnold. Bob On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Arnold Tibus wrote: > Fellow time nut(s), > > isn't this not going too far, going to be disgusting and perhaps > wounding feelings? > No better things in mind? Could we stop this and come back to the > roots,talk and discuss about real phys

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread EWKehren
Agreed, thank you Arnold. Bert Kehren In a message dated 10/28/2010 5:21:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, arnold.ti...@gmx.de writes: Fellow time nut(s), isn't this not going too far, going to be disgusting and perhaps wounding feelings? No better things in mind? Could we stop this and com

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread WB6BNQ
Arnold, I agree completely ! This is really getting out of hand with no end in sight. BillWB6BNQ Arnold Tibus wrote: > Fellow time nut(s), > > isn't this not going too far, going to be disgusting and perhaps > wounding feelings? > No better things in mind? Could we stop this and come back

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Steve Rooke
One thing we should bear in mind that our tombstone timestamp should have things like the timezone, and calendar in use, references, such that future people can determine the exact point in time of our death. In fact, basing the timestamp on some true reference point would better than about 2000 ye

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread David C. Partridge
Dark Star Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of d.sei...@comcast.net Sent: 28 October 2010 10:13 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again Wasn't there a sci-f

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Ian Sheffield
Dark Star. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of d.sei...@comcast.net Sent: 28 October 2010 10:13 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again Wasn't there a sci-fi movi

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Reeves Paul
I think you may be thinking of 'Dark Star', not too sure (been a while since I last saw it)about the bomb (bomb number 20 with a mind of its own) but one of the crew attempted re-entry on a surfboard :-) Paul g8gja -Original Message- From: d.sei...@comcast.net [mailto:d.sei...@comc

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread Arnold Tibus
Fellow time nut(s), isn't this not going too far, going to be disgusting and perhaps wounding feelings? No better things in mind? Could we stop this and come back to the roots,talk and discuss about real physical and technical time concerning points instead? It's not everybody's humor to philosoph

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-28 Thread d . seiter
Wasn't there a sci-fi movie with a similar scene? (guy riding bomb, but in space) I know I've seen it, but can't place it. Dave - Original Message - From: "Michael Conlen" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:42:11 PM Subj